Punitive Air Strikes on Enemy Airbases and Our Options.

[loanranger]

Someone give him a positive rating please.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

I think we all understand the present situation.situation during 65 and 71 was changed but now situation supports india.first of all we have to go too deep which we can't because of indian air defense systems.quality and quantity is on indian side.we can't outnumber them.creating air dominance in a particular sector is different from creating air dominance in an all out war.
After s-400 induction,things will become more complicated.they have Sams everywhere so going deep inside India is not possible.yes we can attack targets using air launched weapons but remember,they also have similar systems.sams on large quantity on indian side makes things complicated for us.balakot is an example of lack of sams.we must create a network of Sams just like india.it will be a good battle if both have large number of sams.

Pakistan should invest money for weapons which can penetrate deep inside India otherwise targeting Jammu and indian Punjab will not bring results.they will regroup again just like before.we should think tactically.

I think targeting India with too much sams on their side is not easy.it is a difficult task but if you map the terrain,you can Target anything and we need sophisticated satellites for this purpose.we should better invest in long range cruise missiles and satellites.

I absolutely agree with your opinion. I am sure our top brass must have thoroughly thought about it since 1971. They simply cannot allow a numerically and qualitatively superior foe take the advantage of striking us first,we just cannot afford it.
I am sure our CCS must have devised a strategy in line with"OPERATION FOCUS" where the Israelis annihilated the entire Egyptian and Arab air forces by noon,450 aircraft were destroyed along with 18 airfields disabled.
Our pilots have better skills than most of the Israeli pilots,surely with same the equipment they can perform even a better spectacular feat.
Indian airbases within 30 miles to the border can be a good MLRS target.

Indian entire coastline airbases and other installations can be taken care off by our submarine launched Cruise/ballistic missiles.

 

[War Thunder]

PAF in the past wars of 1965 and 1971 surprised the enemy on many occasions by conducting daring air raids on their airbases and radar installations. The main targets were the Indian Airbases of Amritsar, Ambala, Agra, Awantipur, Bikaner, Halwara, Jodhpur, Jaisalmer, Pathankot, Bhuj, Srinagar and Uttarlai and air defence radars at Amritsar and Faridkot. The PAF's strikes were based on the strategy of pre-emptive neutralization of enemy air capability. However the heroic efforts of our pilots were compromised, because only a limited section of the PAF's strike capability was employed by our planners,thus enabling the enemy to regroup.

PAF has always implied the methodology that it has to strike the enemy first and hard.Hence the slogan/motto of "Kill the Enemy before it kills you".
With our limited resources available PAF must have a strategy at hand to NEUTRALIZE the enemy, prior to it taking any action.!!!Today PAFs task is more arduous than what its predecessors had. Can Army Strategic Forces Command collaborate and coordinate its missions with the PAF.? I think with the outbreak of hostilities Strategic force command will be our first strike option to soften the enemy airbases with non nuclear munitions.In this field Pakistan enjoys a vast qualitative and quantitative superiority over its enemy.
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Although the enemy is constantly in the hunt for more powerful air defence systems,to date its still vulnerable.Hopefully we will soon find other alternatives like the Ababeel MIRV.

After the initial volley of Ballistic missiles our SOWs (H2 andH4),Cruise missiles,REK bombs, MARs and others can come into play to finish the designated targets.

Following Indian Airbases have undergone major upgrades recently
after their humiliation earlier this year and can be good targets.

We should not discount the role of Sea/submarine launched cruise/ballistic missiles,striking/neutralising enemy air bases. Getting support from sister services for a common goal will be a matter of pride for all Pakistanis. Next time when our motherland calls us ELIMINATION OF ALL ENEMY AIR ASSETS QUICKLY WILL BE THE GOAL.

And who will protect us against the retaliatory strike by their rocket based weaponry? We hit them with missiles and they will hit us back with the same, so where is the gain? And at the same time every single launch of a missile can be taken as a nuke strike by either and we know what will follow?
Are the airbases the real threat to us or rather the missile launchers stationed closer to the border?

 

[Yaseen1]

the major difference between previous wars and now is presence of nuclear weapons which is hindering both sides from such attacks done previously,also afghanistan is much hostile now unlike in past wars with india so we may face two front war and also we cannot predict what u.s will do to our nuclear sites and missile launchers in any conflict who are sitting next to us in afghanistan, I think to get ready for nuclear conflict we need very courageous leadership

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

And who will protect us against the retaliatory strike by their rocket based weaponry? We hit them with missiles and they will hit us back with the same, so where is the gain? And at the same time every single launch of a missile can be taken as a nuke strike by either and we know what will follow?
Are the airbases the real threat to us or rather the missile launchers stationed closer to the border?

You have a valid point,my case is who so ever strikes first will have an upper hand. With limited availability of platforms we cannot take the risk.

 

[Maarkhoor]

PAF in the past wars of 1965 and 1971 surprised the enemy on many occasions by conducting daring air raids on their airbases and radar installations. The main targets were the Indian Airbases of Amritsar, Ambala, Agra, Awantipur, Bikaner, Halwara, Jodhpur, Jaisalmer, Pathankot, Bhuj, Srinagar and Uttarlai and air defence radars at Amritsar and Faridkot. The PAF's strikes were based on the strategy of pre-emptive neutralization of enemy air capability. However the heroic efforts of our pilots were compromised, because only a limited section of the PAF's strike capability was employed by our planners,thus enabling the enemy to regroup.

PAF has always implied the methodology that it has to strike the enemy first and hard.Hence the slogan/motto of "Kill the Enemy before it kills you".
With our limited resources available PAF must have a strategy at hand to NEUTRALIZE the enemy, prior to it taking any action.!!!Today PAFs task is more arduous than what its predecessors had. Can Army Strategic Forces Command collaborate and coordinate its missions with the PAF.? I think with the outbreak of hostilities Strategic force command will be our first strike option to soften the enemy airbases with non nuclear munitions.In this field Pakistan enjoys a vast qualitative and quantitative superiority over its enemy.
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Although the enemy is constantly in the hunt for more powerful air defence systems,to date its still vulnerable.Hopefully we will soon find other alternatives like the Ababeel MIRV.

After the initial volley of Ballistic missiles our SOWs (H2 andH4),Cruise missiles,REK bombs, MARs and others can come into play to finish the designated targets.

Following Indian Airbases have undergone major upgrades recently
after their humiliation earlier this year and can be good targets.

We should not discount the role of Sea/submarine launched cruise/ballistic missiles,striking/neutralising enemy air bases. Getting support from sister services for a common goal will be a matter of pride for all Pakistanis. Next time when our motherland calls us ELIMINATION OF ALL ENEMY AIR ASSETS QUICKLY WILL BE THE GOAL.

As soon as we fire any type of missile either cruise or ballistic missile India will consider it atomic since there is no system to detect either incoming missiles are nuclear or non-nuclear.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

As soon as we fire any type of missile either cruise or ballistic missile India will consider it atomic since there is no system to detect either incoming missiles are nuclear or non-nuclear.

Yeah but it also depends on the situation!!!!Maybe it is a cold start type scenario where both sides are using non nuclear tipped medium range missiles. Who thought in their wildest dreams that India will strike mainland Pakistan!!!!Modi will escalate the threat ladder gradually and we should be prepared for it.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

As soon as we fire any type of missile either cruise or ballistic missile India will consider it atomic since there is no system to detect either incoming missiles are nuclear or non-nuclear.

So had Pakistan nuked India if Modi would had allowed to use missiles on Pakistan on 27th/28th?

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

One should not discount the use of PAF commandos or any other out of box solutions to neutralise/capture vulnerable enemy installations/forward bases!!!

 

[Maarkhoor]

So had Pakistan nuked India if Modi would had allowed to use missiles on Pakistan on 27th/28th?

Yes if missile are B.M or cruise?

 

[Tumba]

Use cruise missiles to eliminate whole of western and northern command in first hours .. This can be followed up by formal strikes with stand off weapons .. Iaf must not be allowed to play a role in any future conflict

India has much larger arsenal of cruise missiles... for 1 cruise missile fired India can send across 10 ... whole PAF will be grounded with in hours as all of PAF bases come under India Army/Airforce and Navy Cruise missile carriers

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

India has much larger arsenal of cruise missiles... for 1 cruise missile fired India can send across 10 ... whole PAF will be grounded with in hours as all of PAF bases come under India Army/Airforce and Navy Cruise missile carriers

I think Pak has greater missile stockpile

 

[War Thunder]

You have a valid point,my case is who so ever strikes first will have an upper hand. With limited availability of platforms we cannot take the risk.

Then the initial strikes have to be on their ability to respond through strategic weaponry as much as their air bases.

 

[Mrc]

India has much larger arsenal of cruise missiles... for 1 cruise missile fired India can send across 10 ... whole PAF will be grounded with in hours as all of PAF bases come under India Army/Airforce and Navy Cruise missile carriers

India does not have ground attack cruise missiles .. Brahmos with 220 km range may be operational in limited numbers...

Basically not more than a couple of dozen ground launched cruise missiles and 0 air launched one ... Its facing in my estimate 1000 (s) caz pak makes them in house

 

[Ultima Thule]

You want war? Lol current PM wont

we are not able to sustain war much longer currently, you want to destroy Pakistan @Syed Hammad Ahmed

So had Pakistan nuked India if Modi would had allowed to use missiles on Pakistan on 27th/28th?

And destroy ourselves, war is not problem solver its complicate things more @Syed Hammad Ahmed