Falcon26
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Both jets were JF-17.
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After the first AMRAAM strike, they didn't stay around and chickened out with the other SU-30 going supersonic to leave the area.Should had downed Mirage 2000 too
@Hodor
Another angle to analyze this F-16 'leak' and U-Turn is to wait for possible Block 70/72 deliveries or V upgrade. That would shed some light on the sudden U-turn.
Brahmos is a missile while H4 is a glide bomb,yes there's a booster at the launch but H4 isnt classified as a missile.With the H4 we could at least argue we used a bomb albeit a rocket powered one. Using such a long range weapon would have left no option to the Indians but to retaliate with a similar weapon such as the Brahmos
This is not S/L Hassan,it's someone else going on an ADA mission.You never see an aircraft parked in the HAS after a combat mission like this.
Few observations:
1. Mirage-5PA fired the H-4, the original 5PA version doesn't have a radar. This mean H-4 launch doesn't require Fighter to have radar, unless PAF has upgraded 5PA with radars.
2. Mirage-IIID is twin seater trainer, also without radar. Data link between H-4 and guiding aircraft doesn't need radar.
This means that PAF AWACS Erieye could be conducting all radar related monitoring and surveillance for Mirages and vectoring them towards their target.
3. REK is a kit for converting MK-80-series general purpose bombs (GPB) into satellite-aided inertial navigation system (GPS/INS)-guided bombs, using autonomous guidance. Would JF-17's Radar also be switched OFF while its guided by Erieye?
4. Could this mean that only F-16's and JF-17's flying CAP's inside AJK had their radars switched ON to engage IAF aircrafts ?
5. Can SAAB Erieye guide AMRAAM launched from F-16 through Link-16 instead of F-16 using its own APG-68 ? just like Erieye does for Gripen's AMRAAM launch.
it really hurts to see that jf 17 did not get score at that time
Okay point taken. So how much truth is there in this audio clip?
https://clyp.it/o1qoejl5#
@HRK @airomerix @Hodor
The twin seat Mirages do have FLIR though for guidance and target acquisition... maybe that played a role. Also I would not take the 5PA version seriously ... it could just as well have been Mirage 5Fs with FLIR.
5F is ROSE upgraded, 15 Sqd flies ROSE Mirages?
old clip with many mix ups .... would not accept it as authentic but as we know it came out just after the incident when different reports were coming so misleading parts are obvious in this audio clip ...Okay point taken. So how much truth is there in this audio clip?
https://clyp.it/o1qoejl5#
@HRK @airomerix @Hodor
H-4 have EO guidanceThe twin seat Mirages do have FLIR though for guidance and target acquisition... maybe that played a role. Also I would not take the 5PA version seriously ... it could just as well have been Mirage 5Fs with FLIR.
mujhy is se koi fark nhi parta jf-17 or f-16 or f-7 as long as we win the battle sirPDF members to jhotay thy hi ab @Maarkhoor sb ny Kaiser Tufail ko bhe jhota bna dea hy.
Hassan is an F-16 pilot and was sitting in a B model.But yeah now you'll start abusing and what not,like when you were told Mirages were part of strike package but you totally denied it and started posting filth.And dont start a new debate,I have no intentions to derail the thread.
Sir bs apki yehi baaten dill le jati hain mera hameshan.mujhy is se koi fark nhi parta jf-17 or f-16 or f-7 as long as we win the battle sir
apny ko kya tension pari hai AMRAAM tha ya SD-10 jf-17 tha ya f16 . kaam ho gya india ki chitrol ker di PAF ne bus kafi hai .Sir bs apki yehi baaten dill le jati hain mera hameshan.
Sir bs apki yehi baaten dill le jati hain mera hameshan.
f-16 ne mara man jao ab tothere was a video which clearly shows 2 jf-17s returns back...still waiting for our pilots to be honored...we won the air battle.. whether its f-16s or jf-17s or their combo who downed indian planes... it doesnt matter
I agree. But
I've been saying the following since 28th Feb
1) 29 Squadron was in action (People asked for sources)
2) No JF-17s got the kills (people asked for sources)
3) Wg Cmdr Nauman got the Bison kill
4) MANY MORE.
I post on this forum after having a word or two with the officers involved. I might reveal the entire story. But the crux is always there. And slowly it is coming out. This article is one such revelation.
you are correct,PDF members to jhotay thy hi ab @Maarkhoor sb ny Kaiser Tufail ko bhe jhota bna dea hy.
Hassan is an F-16 pilot and was sitting in a B model.But yeah now you'll start abusing and what not,like when you were told Mirages were part of strike package but you totally denied it and started posting filth.And dont start a new debate,I have no intentions to derail the thread.
I didn't say these words deliberately.You shouldn't have either.People could come out saying "Paf is feeding lies to nation"
We had locks on 8 Indian jets but didnt fire because hell would break out if we did.
@Hodor
@Bilal Khan 777
Sir this guy claims to know each and everything....
Can you visit this thread and tell us either he or she is correct or just bullshitting it here and there and calling names at senior persons.
@Rashid Mahmood @Tps43 @Khafee