PTI Sahiwal Jalsa

[Viper0011.]

Its not PTI's fault that Geo predicted only 100 people would come @FaujHistorian @orangzaib

I am not sure why you tagged me into this post. Based on some of your previous posts, I really don't need to be debating with someone who has no view of the world and proper credentials to be debating. Please keep me out of your illogical, blind pro-IK posts. I don't have a reason to debate with anyone who has a narrow view of everything or who is here just to do propaganda based on thin air. Thanks

 

[Dil Pakistan]

You ignored the entire point about your country's economic growth, poor individual's growing their income base, more trade, business, jobs coming and getting created in Pakistan without having the money.....will you invest in a high risk company about to go bankrupt? The answer is no, but the current gov't managed to bring about tremendous investment which will lead to tremendous growth and changing the face of Pakistan. BUT.....your IK doesn't want that, he wants to do violence, political terrorism and negative politics. If you think he'll have a place in a mature modern society, you are sadly mistaken. His true fate, you'll see in the next elections. Anyone harming its country's system with either negative anti-progress actions or posing a direct threat to a country's economic growth should be treated with treason. You are trying to hold 200+ million people's future hostage because one selfish person wants to be a Prime Minister without having the skill set or the ability.

WRONG ! WRONG ! and WRONG !

1. Pakistan is a high risk company that is about to go bust - Pakistan is not a high risk company. It is a country of 180-million people with majority of youth in its population. it has poor leadership and that is what IK is trying to change. Pakistan is ready to roar.

2. Govt. managed to bring tremendous investment - only a charade. Giving assurance to foreign companies of 27% return is not investment.

3. Investment will lead to growth - not possible where there is no justice, a corrupt govt. and embezzlement of public money is the norm. What development has been done in Pakistan with the billions of loan taken so far ?

4. IK does not want development of Pakistan !! You need a check up by a psychiatrist.

5. IK wants to do violence, political terrorism, negative politics - how much violence he has done in the last 18-years of politics ?
"political terrorism" What the hell is that ?

Negative politics - Is trying to tell his nation to rise for their rights is negative politics ? Then you must think Nelson Mandela, Jinnah and Gandhi all did negative politics and Hitler, Mussolini etc. did positive politics.

6. IK will not have place in mature modern society - Have a look at his life before entering politics and see how much he was part of mature and modern society.

7. I am sadly mistaken - so be it, don't give a sh*t mate.

I hope you will not complain now that I have ignored any point.

 

[FaujHistorian]

This is history in making. The flow of investment is so much over the next few years that if the Pakistanis people participate in positive politics and have nationalism and work hard for Pakistan (not for individuals like IK or others), the entire face of Pakistan will be different by 2020 !!!! Something that Pakistan could NEVER do on its own due to lack of money for the most basic things.
You guys as a nation need to become like how the Indians are..... quiet and supporting Modi for his agenda (whether they like him or not). This is not for individuals like IK or others. YOU THE PEOPLE have to look at your future, your kids future and the country's future. Violent, destructive and negative protests don't produce results, they take the country down. If you as a nation don't work together and hard to grow Pakistan, history and your next generations will never forgive you.
At this time, you now have all the ingredients to for a vertical climb on the world's economical map. If you fail due to leg pulling and ticked off the Chinese and they ran away.....you can't blame anyone including God. The opportunity was there and you ruined it with negativity.

Well said,

This is what I posted in another thread. But it is appropriate here as well.

Anarchy is never good for a country's progress.

No strong country today from East or West will allow in their capital what Sh. Rasheed and his puppet IK did or what Mullah Tullah TuQ did in our capital.

We as a nation give too much freedom to anarchists

Our youth is too gullible so they easily get charmed by anarchists.

Our media is extreme socialist so it will always go against Western style industrial development, investment similar to China / India / S. Korea.


Our media would love to make Pakistan an image of Iran and N. Korea.

Sadly

It is that simple.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Its not PTI's fault that Geo predicted only 100 people would come @FaujHistorian @orangzaib

Bhai Norwegian,

Even if it was 1000 or 10,000 more. so what if geo was totally wrong.

it doesn't bring peace to our commercial centers of Lahore and Karachi
when and if Sh. Rasheed (and his puppet IK) gather millions in Sahiwal.

Please.

let's move on from dharnas and jaloosi approach.

it is time to calm down and work hard.

We can change our country only when we keep peace and stability all the time.

 

[Viper0011.]

WRONG ! WRONG ! and WRONG !

1. Pakistan is not a high risk company that is about to go bust - it has poor leadership and that is what IK is trying to change. Pakistan is ready to roar.
2. Govt. managed to bring tremendous investment - only a charade. Giving assurance to foreign companies of 27% return is not investment.
3. Investment will lead to growth - not possible where there is no justice, a corrupt govt. and embezzlement of public money is the norm. How development has been done in Pakistan with the billions of loan taken so far ?
4. IK does not want development of Pakistan !! You need a check up by a psychiatrist.

5. IK wants to do violence, political terrorism, negative politics - how much violence he has done in the last 18-years of politics ?
"political terrorism" What he hell is that ?

Negative politics - Is trying to tell his nation to rise for their rights is negative politics ? Then you must think Nelson Mandela, Jinnah and Gandhi all did negative politics and Hitler, Mussolini etc. did positive politics.

6. IK will not have place in mature modern society - Have a look at his life before entering politics and see how much he was part of mature and modern society.

7. I am sadly mistaken - so be it, don't give a sh*t mate.

I hope you will not complain now that I have ignored any point.

WRONG ! WRONG ! and WRONG !

1. Pakistan is not a high risk company that is about to go bust - it has poor leadership and that is what IK is trying to change. Pakistan is ready to roar.

2. Govt. managed to bring tremendous investment - only a charade. Giving assurance to foreign companies of 27% return is not investment.

3. Investment will lead to growth - not possible where there is no justice, a corrupt govt. and embezzlement of public money is the norm. How development has been done in Pakistan with the billions of loan taken so far ?

4. IK does not want development of Pakistan !! You need a check up by a psychiatrist.

5. IK wants to do violence, political terrorism, negative politics - how much violence he has done in the last 18-years of politics ?
"political terrorism" What he hell is that ?

Negative politics - Is trying to tell his nation to rise for their rights is negative politics ? Then you must think Nelson Mandela, Jinnah and Gandhi all did negative politics and Hitler, Mussolini etc. did positive politics.

6. IK will not have place in mature modern society - Have a look at his life before entering politics and see how much he was part of mature and modern society.

7. I am sadly mistaken - so be it, don't give a sh*t mate.

I hope you will not complain now that I have ignored any point.

Here's propaganda again. Allow me to end this silly, useless, emotional and IK paid debate with just a few sentences:
1) I am SURE you can see my flags....which then show my association and patriotism to my flags in my signatures. So you should ALSO know I have no skin in this mess in Pakistan.

2) Your lengthy post with verbiage doesn't mean jack to me or to others. The fact is that $ 40+ billion investment will create MILLIONS of jobs at all levels and it'll ONLY kick start Pakistan's economy and will help its millions of poor people immediately. If you don't like the fact and you are against it, you are against your OWN country. In which case, other Pakistanis should see your negative politics and denounce them.

3) Pakistan is listed as the Most Dangerous place to live in and do business with. There is no second guessing it. See the killlings in daily basis in the major economical hub called Karachi, see the terrorism at will at the largest and some of the most safest places in Pakistan like the attacks on the GHQ, Airports, Hospitals, etc, etc.
Add IK's negative and violent protests to it, your country's MOST CRITICAL installations, the Parliament, the Supreme Court, the Police and all....have dealt with violence by IK and Mullah Insane's protests!!!
What more do I have to write for you to wake up from your propaganda and see the reality. Lie and Propaganda can ONLY go so far and you are at the end of it, trust me. The investments that are coming in, will reduce your electrical production issues by 80-90% before 2018. That ONE thing itself it the most important aspect of anyone's political tenure and then there is associated growth in the economy. The current government has done their work and have put their names in the history. You can cry about it or dance on one leg in circles....can't change that. The ACTUAL making of an New Pakistan has started. IK needs to go work with the system or go take an extended vacation and spend time in England with his kids......the show's over and its flopped!

 

[Norwegian]

it doesn't bring peace to our commercial centers of Lahore and Karachi

I get IK and TuQ are not responsible for law & order situation anywhere in Pakistan

 

[Viper0011.]

Bhai Norwegian,
Even if it was 1000 or 10,000 more. so what if geo was totally wrong.
it doesn't bring peace to our commercial centers of Lahore and Karachi
when and if Sh. Rasheed (and his puppet IK) gather millions in Sahiwal.
Please.
let's move on from dharnas and jaloosi approach.it is time to calm down and work hard.
We can change our country only when we keep peace and stability all the time.

Unfortunately, you are either dealing with people who have never had to work in serious business roles, or who have no care for their own country or they are just blind hired guns for propaganda. What you wrote, I respect it, but these guys, are ready to destroy their own country selfishly based on their own personal bias and agendas. The MAIN reason why Pakistan has never progressed so far. These elements love negativity and leg pulling, instead of actually allowing people to do the work and judging on the results. No where on the earth do political parties judge others without they have a chance to finish their policies and work and show results. Only in Pakistan, people are ready for violence based on their own political beliefs and show NO patience for others or team work as a nation. Really sad!!

 

[Norwegian]

Please keep me out of your illogical, blind pro-IK posts.

I quoted you because your posts implied gathering hundreds and thousands of supporters by IK in every part of Pakistan is illogical and blind support

 

[Norwegian]

No where on the earth do political parties judge others without they have a chance to finish their policies and work and show results.

Hahaha. What a loser. PMLN has got 6 terms in Punjab and PPP at least 4 terms in Sindh. Both parties have been in federal government for decades. What work and progress by these two parties were you talking about? Both rural Punjab and Sindh still looks like stone-age third world region.

Only in Pakistan, people are ready for violence based on their own political beliefs and show NO patience for others or team work as a nation.

LOL. What violence are you watching in PTI's dharnas and jalsas, American troll?

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Here's propaganda again. Allow me to end this silly, useless, emotional and IK paid debate with just a few sentences:
1) I am SURE you can see my flags....which then show my association and patriotism to my flags in my signatures. So you should ALSO know I have no skin in this mess in Pakistan.

2) Your lengthy post with verbiage doesn't mean jack to me or to others. The fact is that $ 40+ billion investment will create MILLIONS of jobs at all levels and it'll ONLY kick start Pakistan's economy and will help its millions of poor people immediately. If you don't like the fact and you are against it, you are against your OWN country. In which case, other Pakistanis should see your negative politics and denounce them.

3) Pakistan is listed as the Most Dangerous place to live in and do business with. There is no second guessing it. See the killlings in daily basis in the major economical hub called Karachi, see the terrorism at will at the largest and some of the most safest places in Pakistan like the attacks on the GHQ, Airports, Hospitals, etc, etc.
Add IK's negative and violent protests to it, your country's MOST CRITICAL installations, the Parliament, the Supreme Court, the Police and all....have dealt with violence by IK and Mullah Insane's protests!!!
What more do I have to write for you to wake up from your propaganda and see the reality. Lie and Propaganda can ONLY go so far and you are at the end of it, trust me. The investments that are coming in, will reduce your electrical production issues by 80-90% before 2018. That ONE thing itself it the most important aspect of anyone's political tenure and then there is associated growth in the economy. The current government has done their work and have put their names in the history. You can cry about it or dance on one leg in circles....can't change that. The ACTUAL making of an New Pakistan has started. IK needs to go work with the system or go take an extended vacation and spend time in England with his kids......the show's over and its flopped!

Rubbish

You have run out of argument and like any illiterate person resorting to "my flag" and "my patriotism". You have not replied to any of my point raised and it shows how limited your brain is.

This so called "Billions of investment" will be siphoned out in Swiss banks by your favourite corrupt people even before the nation gets a sniff of it.

I don't care if my post means anything to you or not. I am expressing my point of view.

Pakistan the most dangerous place !! ....Because of your CIA. ....CIA brought these people from all over the world to Pakistan and Afghanistan to fight Soviets and provided them with money and arms. This is the statement of your foreign secretary Hillary Clinton - Mr patriot.

 

[Viper0011.]

Hahaha. What a loser. PMLN has got 6 terms in Punjab and PPP at least 4 terms in Sindh. Both parties have been in federal government for decades. What work and progress by these two parties were you talking about? Both rural Punjab and Sindh still looks like stone-age third world region.

LOL. What violence are you watching in PTI's dharnas and jalsas, American troll?

That's it? Your illogical, illiterate comments start again? Like I said, I don't want to be debating with someone with a brain narrowness limited to one image called IK. You can have at it and enjoy.

Whether PMLN has had 6 terms or 20......the fact is, this term they are elected officials of the nation. However you complain about it. For today's election, you can't blame them for 25 years ago. In fact, the people selected it so what's your or a few thousands deal on it? You should respectfully and democratically sit back and wait for the next term. IK's situation in the next elections would be worse than it was this time. Its on the map.
So just like you stand in LINE in Norway.....learn to stand in LINE in Pakistan too, so the country can grow. People like you, follow rules in the West, and support violence in your own country. What a pity. Just like IK, he's got his kids future set in the UK, but he's spreading hate inside his own country where he has no family!!! Amazing show of smartness and national loyalty.

The results of the current government are coming up. They took care of a lot of issues, the Floods, the IDP's, the operation in the tribal belt, the investments, the road map to end electric outages or reduce it by 80%, the revival of the economy, build an internal coalition against the terrorism AND deal with negative political terrorists like IK and other. I have some admiration for these guys. And they are producing results. The real NEW Pakistan is being developed and the signatures on those multibillion investment contracts were from the current gov't. Not from IK's team of negative politicians. That's a fact and it'll remain in the history.

 

[mr.robot]

Unfortunately, you are either dealing with people who have never had to work in serious business roles, or who have no care for their own country or they are just blind hired guns for propaganda. What you wrote, I respect it, but these guys, are ready to destroy their own country selfishly based on their own personal bias and agendas. The MAIN reason why Pakistan has never progressed so far. These elements love negativity and leg pulling, instead of actually allowing people to do the work and judging on the results. No where on the earth do political parties judge others without they have a chance to finish their policies and work and show results. Only in Pakistan, people are ready for violence based on their own political beliefs and show NO patience for others or team work as a nation. Really sad!!

The best way to get rid of these anarchists is give them rigging investigation how they want it excluding PM's resignation. There is nothing wrong in it or there is?

 

[FaujHistorian]

I get IK and TuQ are not responsible for law & order situation anywhere in Pakistan

See this is where Sh Rasheed supporters make sweeping but wrong statements.

In June of this year,

--- Our law enforcement agencies finally had the momentum on their side.

And then boom

--- Sh Rasheed and his sock puppet IK + dharna prone foreign mullah, took that momentum away

Our beautiful country has been suffering with 12 damned years of civil war

and Sh Rasheed and his sock puppet IK are trying hard to continue adding fuel that fire of civil war


This summer was the time to concentrate on just two forking things. Just 2

1. IDPs from NWA
2. polio


And yet, Sh Rasheed, Mullah TuQ and their puppet IK
starting running around with their tails on fire

taking away the national focus on just two but the most important things.

Beating up police officers, shooting them, snatching away their weapons, hanging dirty laundary on Pakistan supreme court and parliament walls. is what Taliban could never dare to do. even when they really wanted to.

So Sh Rasheed, Mullah TuQ and their puppet IK are
1000 times wrose than Talib-ches.
1000 times worse than those Mullahtic-prostitutes-Talib-ichutes.


So sorry to see that so many Paks in the West sit in a peaceful and strict law and order countries and yet they blindly support anarchy in ours.

no wonder these West settled anarchists and Mullah TuQ are soul-mates.

no forking wonder.

 

[Viper0011.]

This so called "Billions of investm]ent" will be siphoned out in Swiss banks by your favourite corrupt people even before the nation gets a sniff of it..

When this happens, you are welcome to report it to the public. Till them, get off the smoke pipe that causes haze and brain fog, and show me a proof of ONE Swiss or ANY bank account since this term started. Well, you have nothing like IK hasn't produced jack-squat. All lying and accusations out of thin air, like a girl on periods with verbal diarrhea about everyone and anything.

 

[FaujHistorian]

That's it? Your illogical, illiterate comments start again? Like I said, I don't want to be debating with someone with a brain narrowness limited to one image called IK. You can have at it and enjoy.

Whether PMLN has had 6 terms or 20......the fact is, this term they are elected officials of the nation. However you complain about it. For today's election, you can't blame them for 25 years ago. In fact, the people selected it so what's your or a few thousands deal on it? You should respectfully and democratically sit back and wait for the next term. IK's situation in the next elections would be worse than it was this time. Its on the map.
So just like you stand in LINE in Norway.....learn to stand in LINE in Pakistan too, so the country can grow. People like you, follow rules in the West, and support violence in your own country. What a pity. Just like IK, he's got his kids future set in the UK, but he's spreading hate inside his own country where he has no family!!! Amazing show of smartness and national loyalty.

The results of the current government are coming up. They took care of a lot of issues, the Floods, the IDP's, the operation in the tribal belt, the investments, the road map to end electric outages or reduce it by 80%, the revival of the economy, build an internal coalition against the terrorism AND deal with negative political terrorists like IK and other. I have some admiration for these guys. And they are producing results. The real NEW Pakistan is being developed and the signatures on those multibillion investment contracts were from the current gov't. Not from IK's team of negative politicians. That's a fact and it'll remain in the history.

me thinks

some posters here suffer from bipolar disorder.

One moment they support Sh Rasheed, and then other moment they go against him.

Kind of similar to Sh. Rasheed puppet these days who said Sh Rasheed cannot be a chaprasi, and now sleeps with him.

Horrible.