proposal for a new division of south asia

[INDIC]

As i said writing Hindi as mother tongue in census forums doesn't make one native Hindi speaker but yeah after 2-3 more generation people in those areas will become genuine Hindi speakers after losing trace of their original languages.

jo bhi Punjab mein hua karta tha sabko Punjabi bana do.

 

[Sugarcane]

jo bhi Punjab mein hua karta tha sabko Punjabi bana do.

If it was not Sikhs, your map of Hindi belt would be showing "Indian Punjab" in Hindi belt as well.

 

[INDIC]

If it was not Sikhs, your map of Hindi belt would be showing "Indian Punjab" in Hindi belt as well.

It was the part of Hindi belt even before independence, the Haryanvi/Himachali culture and dress is altogether distinct from Punjabi people. Ab Pakistan mein khud ko Punjabi bol ke khush ho lo taki Karachiwalon se alag dikh sakein, yahan koi khud ko Punjabi nahi bolta.

 

[Sugarcane]

It was the part of Hindi belt even before independence, the Haryanvi/Himachali culture and dress is altogether distinct from Punjabi people. Ab Pakistan mein khud ko Punjabi bol ke khush ho lo taki Karachiwalon se alag dikh sakein, yahan koi khud ko Punjabi nahi bolta.

Google professor, nobody here tries to look different from Karachiwala by speaking Punjabi, infect it's other way in urban areas people unfortunately are giving up Punjabi and adopting Urdu - same thing is happening to local languages/dialects in India as well. So, your multilanguism is myth at-least for North India.

PS: Even within Punjab distinct culture and dress exist.

 

[INDIC]

Google professor, nobody here tries to look different from Karachiwala by speaking Punjabi, infect it's other way in urban areas people unfortunately are giving up Punjabi and adopting Urdu - same thing is happening to local languages/dialects in India as well. So, your multilanguism is myth at-least for North India.

PS: Even within Punjab distinct culture and dress exist.

Muchar chacha, Haryana is identical to Western part of Uttar Pradesh in almost everything. Only in Pakistan, the refugees migrating from Haryana region(then part of East Punjab) started to pretend as Punjabi for better prospect of assimilation in West Punjab and look different from Karachiwala.

 

[Sugarcane]

Muchar chacha, Haryana is identical to Western part of Uttar Pradesh in almost everything. Only in Pakistan, the refugees migrating from Haryana region(then part of East Punjab) started to pretend as Punjabi for better prospect of assimilation in West Punjab and look different from Karachiwala.

LOL!!! Google professor you need to work hard to learn about Pakistan's Punjab - many Urdu speaker also migrated to Punjab and are very much settled and assimilated without pretending to be Punjabies, the non-Punjabi speaker of Haryana who migrated to Pakistan still speak their own language which is called Rohtiki in Pakistan.

BTW why Punjabi is 2nd official language of Haryana if there is no Punjabi speaker there?

 

[jamahir]

I like it.... however that only trouble would be is the west will not let that happen without their supervision, they would fear strong south Asia... some of the new self governing regions would be bought ( politicians bought) by the west... or what do you think?

people in the west fear the idea of being equal...

yes... an independent self-governing self-sufficient south asia would be hard to swallow for the western bloc... after all, they created al-qaeda and taliban to destroy the first socialist south asian nation ( afghanistan, 1978 to 1991 )... and they have kept india-pakistan-kashmir issue burning since 1947... and they have used india as anti-china platform.

but the western bloc can send observers to observe the formation of the south asian jamahiriya... it is like the sco grouping having india as observer even though india presently is very different culturally and politically from russia and china.

a jamahiriya society does not have political parties... not even the single "party" like in soviet union or iraq or syria... every jamahiri citizen is a participant in the politics of that society... so, there is no "professional politician"...

1. removal of money system will remove much cause of corruption.

2. of course, there can be corruptions by people in positions of power, like in police department... but ideally, a direct-democracy need not have a legal system at all, and the police system will be overseen secretariats of bpc, mpc, rpc and gpc.

3. the secretariats may have corruptions but they are overseen by the people.

4. the people may be misled ( like what happened in benghazi - libya ) but those people will be opposed by the remaining revolutionary masses ( like the 95 percent libyans who want jamahiriya back ).

5. above all will be the "revolutionary command council" who need not hold any position but will remain the guides of the original revolution.

6. where libya failed was to give too much comforts to the people... and not much controls on media in a world where western propaganda media ( bbc, al jazeera, cnn etc ) has become expert in brainwashing the not-so-thinking... the too much comforts for the libya people did not prepare them to the huge invasion of 2011... the libyan people were stunned into inaction... that should not happen with the south asian jamahiriya.

7. i must again mention that removal of money system will remove much cause of corruption.

8. proper education ( which is bounded by socialism ) plus controls on the internet plus watching the watchers will keep corruptions to a few identifiable spots.

 

[INDIC]

LOL!!! Google professor you need to work hard to learn about Pakistan's Punjab - many Urdu speaker also migrated to Punjab and are very much settled and assimilated without pretending to be Punjabies, the non-Punjabi speaker of Haryana who migrated to Pakistan still speak their own language which is called Rohtiki in Pakistan.

BTW why Punjabi is 2nd official language of Haryana if there is no Punjabi speaker there?

Punjabi is 2nd official language otherwise Haryanvis are almost indistinguishable from people of Western UP.

 

[Sugarcane]

Punjabi is 2nd official language otherwise Haryanvis are almost indistinguishable from people of Western UP.

Even Indian Punjab will be indistinguishable from people of UP after sometime

 

[INDIC]

Even Indian Punjab will be indistinguishable from people of UP after sometime

West Punjab particularly Lahore is already indistinguishable from people of Karachi.

 

[Kabira]

Muchar chacha, Haryana is identical to Western part of Uttar Pradesh in almost everything. Only in Pakistan, the refugees migrating from Haryana region(then part of East Punjab) started to pretend as Punjabi for better prospect of assimilation in West Punjab and look different from Karachiwala.

I have no idea why bhaiya like you is saying Himachel/Haryana is similar to Bihar/bhaiyas. You should only talk on behalf of bhaiyas of UP/Bihar.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You should write that in Greek, because its the only classical language which a classical language speaker should learn, stop speaking non-Classical Germanic-French cocktail called English.

Σ 'αγαπώ για τη σύγχυση που δημιουργούν - στο δικό σας μυαλό όσο και σε αυτούς των άλλων .
Ego vero non video cur Latina non lego .

 

[INDIC]

I have no idea why bhaiya like you is saying Himachel/Haryana is similar to Bihar/bhaiyas. You should only talk on behalf of bhaiyas of UP/Bihar.

Yes, some dumb expert from West of Divine Radcliffe line know more about Haryana and Uttar Pradesh. go find you fraternity with Nordic people.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I have no idea why bhaiya like you is saying Himachel/Haryana is similar to Bihar/bhaiyas. You should only talk on behalf of bhaiyas of UP/Bihar.

An ignorant person will not know that western UP and Bihar are poles apart.

 

[Kabira]

Yes, some dumb expert from West of Divine Radcliffe line know more about Haryana and Uttar Pradesh. go find you fraternity with Nordic people.

But seriously India is huge country and there are lots of Haryanvis and Himachalis here. Why you need to talk on their behalf? What is your obsession with bhayazing every Indian?

An ignorant person will not know that western UP and Bihar are poles apart.

Poles apart? How? Sir please explain.