Thank you so much for the positive rating. As I said, despite the apparent anger underlying intend was positive in a sense that I wanted to defend the actual truth.
Deino I do know far more about Pakistan's actual capabilities. That is just true. Also stereotypical view of Pakistanis sometime leads to wrong projections of Pakistan's capabilities. Pakistanis are euro-asian people Deino. Vewing them as some permanently incompetent people does not reflect the actual reality. Some Pakistani themselves view whole Pakistan in low light (but that's come from their own poor self image which they project on the whole country Pakistan).
A Pakistani neuro-surgeon does as good in America as his/her fellow Americans. They can do the same in Pakistan given the right environment.
I have deadline and need to send 3 papers for publication (I am one of co-authors) and can't write much now. But I assure you that when I will have time, I will demonstrate that now Pakistani researchers can already not just design and analyze but can synthesize at the chemistry level many of those technologies that are critical for advanced stealth fighters.
Say If they want certain properties for non-stealth applications in nano-composites (or general composites), Pakistanis can get it done. If Pakistan wants to produce for stealth applications, they can get it done. Graphene or Carbon-nano tube based and so on all can be done. In a conservative country Pakistan where girls don't study much and yet even women are now synthesizing from the basic chemistry level advanced ( and I mean very advanced) nanocomposities with the properties they seek. As an example, here is a PhD thesis by a Pakistan girl (I think I given that above before):
Fabrication of graphene metal nano composite and its applications
This Pakistani girl used the same co-precipitation methods that were used to produce several key stealth related components of F-35 including RAM. Such things can be done now in Pakistan. Pakistani girls have even produced PhD dissertations in nonlinear analysis including specialist topics such as set-valued optimization methods (One of the key but highly advanced abstract sciences required for so many advanced engineering applications including optimization for stealth design). Such things never happened in the past. But now things are different. If girls are
now doing PhDs on such complex topics, producing most complex high tech research, realize, Pakistani men are way way ahead of Pakistani girls.
Plus 10,000's are studying overseas who can be recruited if there is a need (many send/funded by Pakistani military to begin with).
Other very modern approaches such as chemical plating for expanded Graphite metallization and so on can be done by Pakistanis as they please.
In short As I said in my earlier post (which was deleted but still exists in Quots of others) that Pakistan can now produce any composites or RAM with any desired properties. There is no need to steal or copy anyone.
Addition of a large number of civilian experienced and young with fresh PhD in specialized topics has revolutionized Pakistan military's ability to do almost anything, if they can fund it.
PAF has a large number of very capable engineers who have specialist expertise in stealth, aerodynamics, structures and so on.
Money is now slowing them down wherever they are slow. Money is also needed to gain experience cause
with the money you can research more and learn more and increase your expertise level.
Nonetheless Pakistan is willing to spend money at least for project AZM so if they need to perfect some technique, or gain more experience in some area, they will do it.
In any event, as agreed, i won't interfere in your posts.
But in the future i will highlight more advanced capabilities of Pakistan as far as stealth aircraft engineering is concerned. Furthermore there are a large number of Pakistani researchers around the world available to Pakistan most of whom would love to be part of such project of national importance.
Trust me, If they have trouble with some extreme technical problem, they have fellow Pakistani researchers somewhere who they can contact and ask for help.
These fellow Pakistanis researchers have developed high degree of expertise through their own hard work. They know what is going on even in the "so called classified domains". For example, even though S-500 of Russian has not even made it yet, and they already know what exactly russian did to optimize space-time characteristics of radar waveforms to do enhanced detection of stealth vehicle including enhancements to utilize bistatic and multi-static detection/tracking strategies.
The point is information is very hard to hide if you have people who who have high degree of technical expertise and are determine to get it. One can analyze their research, the topics they are funding (russian funding, DARPA Funding etc.) to figure out what exactly they intend to produce and at what level of technology they will produce it and how they will do it.
One can replicate the research or better still build upon it and create even more advanced results.
Just the topic name is enough to analyze a lot. Pakistani can do all of that. This "tracking" of advanced western, russian, or someone's else's research is required since some of its finds its way into india. Pakistanis are now learning to do just that right now using informal global networks (e.g. researchers/colleagues interacting with each other across the planet). But one day, hopefully they will do it formally.
Thanks to Chinese who are so liberal that they even openly not just publish the most classified research, they bloody even publish whole books on them. Chinese have totally liberalized even the most sophisticated technological research even at component level analysis. This pleasant Chinese openness is now spreading to other regions. For example now even russian are doing the same. Europe is being forced to do the same since one can then collaborate and/or let others do some hard work.
The point is there is nothing hidden or secret anymore. Pakistan has people who can understand all this. Time have changed now. Past monopoly on advanced science and technology is rapidly going out of existence.
As Pakistan's economy improves in coming years, even the most complex project will be added to the already growing list (e.g. Nuclear submarine). That's the new world order now where increasingly countries like Pakistan decide what they will do for their freedom.
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I will reply your insightful post and yes you are right on many things. You have far more experience and know much more than I do. Please have no hard feelings. There was absolutely no intention to degrade anyone. My response was just out of nationalism. i just responded based on my emotions at that time. I meant no disrespect. I try not to but sometimes I slip and make a emotions driven mistake.
I have some deadlines so for a while I won't come here on this forum and but when I will, I will say few things still sticking to the topic of project azm but on the general institutional mindset that indeed had negative effect on lots of things including impeding development of advanced science and technology. I will reply your post. For now i will be off of this forum for a while. Take good care.
... would you please so kind and contact the secret service you are speaking of and give them a hint where to find me?
