Project-17A vs Talwar-class Frigates- IN should go for 3 more P-17A over Russian origin Talwar-class

[The Huskar]

Best option would be this
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Is that the Admiral Gorshkov class frigate??
Is it better than the Grigorovich class.

 

[Chanakya's_Chant]

I doubt that...I think in present circumstances India can get better deal then 2013

Reasons

1}In 2013 Russian Ruble was hovering around 30 rubble per $ today it is hovering around 56 to 60 per $

2}Today Raw material cost is almost 30% to 40% (metal) lower then 2013...

3} Without Ukrainian engine these frigate are nothing more then scrap for Russian Navy...

The problem with the Russians in this concern is that they have often disregarded the original contracts and demanded more money than decided earlier on the pretext of superficial cost escalations and timeline delays - Gorshkov was brought almost thrice the contracted cost, $2.3 billion instead of $947 million - same has been the case with earlier Talwar-class frigates - Russian officials escalated the cost of the frigates "a minimum of $100 million more" than decided earlier and the frigates came with a slight delay as well.

Now, India asked to pay more for Russian frigates - The Times of India

Russia continues to squeeze more money out of India in defence contracts - a fact very well known to all.

L&T

L&T wasvthe one who build the hull of our Nuc Sub...

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so I don't know about the capability of Pipavav but L&T definatly has the capability to built such sophisticated ships....

I know but the shipyard in question is L&T Kattupalli Shipyard - the one that built the hull is L&T's Hazira facility - L&T had earlier made it clear that the Hazira facility is to exclusively utilized for submarines whereas the one in Kattupalli will be utilized for surface warships - The yard, which has been designed for building large Defence vessels, is yet to find favour with the Defence Ministry. Right now, they have no choice but to go for commercial ships and repairs - The orders for Hazira are being partially executed at Kattupalli.

Hope they secure a big contract soon - it will ultimately have to tie up with public shipyards like GSRE or MDL for any such project.

@MilSpec @Abingdonboy Why don't they build P-17A or P-17's in private shipyards like L&T and Pipavav - a tie up with IN's NDB & public sector shipyards like GRSE or MDL?

 

[saurav]

Has anyone noticed the news on new SSNs and leasing of Yasen Class coming around the same time as this.. Some link may be..? We may be compensating Russia for their help in other projects..

 

[he-man]

Is that the Admiral Gorshkov class frigate??
Is it better than the Grigorovich class.

Yes its better.