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Procurement of new aircraft in PAF

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You believe in YouTube good for your health:enjoy: F-22 eats up Su-35 in bvr arena, no need to come closer for dog fight with Su-35 and remember Su-35 huge RCS of 15m2, F-22 can detect Su-35 300 km away and engage it with AMRAAM-D with a range of 160+ km and Su-35's pilot don't know how it destroyed:p::o:
 
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su35 is quite good at subsonic manurerability,and the su35s improved its transonic performance.that's a part.
it has more space for avionic devices, more fuel, more payload,which means its potential to upgrade is huge.
in nowadays airbattle is not only dogfight,it relys more on systems,like awacs,jammers,and even uavs.big body means more task can be integrated into one fighter which improves combat efficiency.these are necessary for an aggressive air force.
still su35 may not win F22 whether in a dogfight or bvr fight. but it has its value.
 
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:disagree: only in your dreams:p:

@pakistanipower you are very wrong, yes platform is very countable element in Air superiority. But any thing can be happen in the air it's all about the opponents take decisions on the point of time, most of the time. Even two aircraft have BVR's but speed plays a vital role here. Think about the closing in speed of two aircraft head to head and already have used their BVR's on each other. after just in few seconds the theater will be with in visual range. Then It doesn't matter what radar or EW suits.

American and Russian philosophy of designing aircraft is very different. Russian are more in dog fight where American are more hit and run objective achieving approach.
 
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PAF is a little fossilized. If they really need J-11 series, they can ask PLAAF to retire some J-11Bs and then sold to them as second hand. Before handing over, the J-11B can be upgraded to J-11D level.
Russian may have some words if we sell brand new one, but they can not forbid us to sell retired Su-27
 
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If PaF wants j-31 then it would have to wait till 2020 but they can get J-10 sooner plus it will be cheaper to operate.
Also has anyone ever thought about this bird and how much advantage PAF can get with it?
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If PaF wants j-31 then it would have to wait till 2020 but they can get J-10 sooner plus it will be cheaper to operate.
Also has anyone ever thought about this bird and how much advantage PAF can get with it?
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The aircraft in posted pictures is "Xian JH-7" this is comparable to American F-111. Too bulky and twin engine PAF haven't consider or evaluated this aircraft so I think the chance are slim to non.
 
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I don't understand why people are calling Russian jets as 'hard to maintain' since most we will be doing is to buy 2-3 squads at most. Maintenance/spare parts are an issue when you have 100+ jets from the same vendor and their Govt is creating problems to get things done. We can have critical spare parts in advance or can get relevant parts from China when required.
 
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China now knows flankers even better than Russians and we upgrade them every year. China can certainly mass provide parts and maintenance if Pakistan purchase fighters from Russia.
 
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China now knows flankers even better than Russians and we upgrade them every year. China can certainly mass provide parts and maintenance if Pakistan purchase fighters from Russia.
This is what we need bro
 
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@pakistanipower you are very wrong, yes platform is very countable element in Air superiority. But any thing can be happen in the air it's all about the opponents take decisions on the point of time, most of the time. Even two aircraft have BVR's but speed plays a vital role here. Think about the closing in speed of two aircraft head to head and already have used their BVR's on each other. after just in few seconds the theater will be with in visual range. Then It doesn't matter what radar or EW suits.

American and Russian philosophy of designing aircraft is very different. Russian are more in dog fight where American are more hit and run objective achieving approach.
:disagree: in only your dreams
Su-35 has huge RCS and whereas F-22 5th Gen LO jet, F-22 AESA can detect/track Su35 250-300 km out and engage it with AMRRAM-D with a range of 160+ km and Su-35's doesn't know that where and when it had been destroyed:p:, in dog fights ECM, ECCM, ESM and EW are more important then in BVR fights because your enemy is in your close quarter applying every tactics to defeat you do research bro before you post :p:
 
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Chinese representative present a J 20 model to AVM Muhammad Haseeb Paracha of Pakistan, is there any thing Special...?

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here is a video also


The PLAAF offers a model of the J-20 to the Pakistani Air Force and confirms that the J-20 (Prototype) begins to equip Chinese engines.


 
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The best fighter in terms of experience capability pak doctrine guaranteed performance is and will be the block 52=

Perfect for taking on flankers and is available.

Unfortunately USA has lost faith and patience .

Imo nothing else comes as close has the perfect t block 52
 
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