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Events comes and go by time and it's all about changing scenarios in international politics and diplomacy, nothing is forever. If Indian can lean towards US then in this rapidly changing alignments, why not Russian can thinking about Pakistan (getting distance with US in relations, which is more in Russian favor) we cannot forget the recent deal "(1) Mi-35M attack helicopters" which was 4, too small in numbers, even then India tried to stop it.

Currently it will not be ease for Russian to deal with Pakistan directly due to few Russian and Indian partnerships ongoing projects (The more financial aspect) including FGFA.

Why not Russian can give permission to Chinese to sell J-11D to Pakistan? In any ways haven't we have these copies of Russian fighters flown in Pakistan before. If India can make TOT deals with purchase with France for Rafael, another French multinational aircraft engine maker SAFRAN helping India for Kaveri engine. SAAB is also seems willing to do it (2).

Why not Russia and China. India madly buying everything. The technology is changing rapidly anyways, you never know what going to be in next 5 to 10 years.

India is using and they are working on for TOT for SU-30 (3), how came it will be ease for Russia to sell SU-35 to Pakistan? India will block the deal any way, but they cannot stop China to sell J-11D to Pakistan. On the other hand for Pakistan, Chinese relations are more reliable then Pakistan, Russian relation (just in case). Pakistan and China if work together to get it work it will be a working option. Russia has given us JF-17 engines through Chinese efforts. Same thing here goes here too.

Pakistan is getting technology any way form the world e.g AESA radar and many other for F-17 Block III. Hopefully a mix of Russian, Chinese, South African + Turkey do the math for us. This seem to be a quite smart move.

(1) http://thediplomat.com/2017/08/pakistan-receives-4-advanced-attack-helicopters-from-russia/

(2) https://thewire.in/172643/adani-to-...as-10-billion-single-fighter-jet-competition/

(3) http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/04/indias-mod-reveals-which-private.html

if china sells its J-11 series to PAF, what share will russians get from the deal?
 
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if china sells its J-11 series to PAF, what share will russians get from the deal?
Its not always about money, its about infulance and space that US is losing. But in future it may be russian engines. Or other equipment.
 
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What about MiG LMFS program?

Mikoyan LMFS is a proposed Russian stealth, single-engine multirole combat aircraft.
 
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What about MiG LMFS program?

Mikoyan LMFS is a proposed Russian stealth, single-engine multirole combat aircraft.

Like Turkish TFX program if it is possible Pakistan should offer Russia to participate in this program both financially and practically. It would be a good venture that help Pakistan and Russian relations.
 
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Is there any authenticity of rumors of licence production of eurofighter by Pakistan for Pakistan & Saudi Arabia and for future export order?
 
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Is there any authenticity of rumors of licence production of eurofighter by Pakistan for Pakistan & Saudi Arabia and for future export order?
yes, apparently saudi arbia is paying 20 billion dollars to fund the project, as modi pissed up king salman and his son during recent visit by not kissing his shoes which nawaz sharif/pakistanis always do, so they are going to fund euro fighters and 100 su35 with 5 U212 submarines and 2 mistral amphibious ships and 1000 t-99 tanks for Pakistan, the same way the spend 20 billion dollars to fund Pakistan nuclear program
 
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yes, apparently saudi arbia is paying 20 billion dollars to fund the project, as modi pissed up king salman and his son during recent visit by not kissing his shoes which nawaz sharif/pakistanis always do, so they are going to fund euro fighters and 100 su35 with 5 U212 submarines and 2 mistral amphibious ships and 1000 t-99 tanks for Pakistan, the same way the spend 20 billion dollars to fund Pakistan nuclear program


BIGGEST LOAD OF NONSENSE this week
 
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I don't think India will buy F16s on Mati visit .If that happens Pak should negotiate that deal with American .Trump is bussinessman they will sell Us .F16 built at Kamra will be a lot cheaper .
 
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BIGGEST LOAD OF NONSENSE this week
i was replying to biggest load of non sense

I don't think India will buy F16s on Mati visit .If that happens Pak should negotiate that deal with American .Trump is bussinessman they will sell Us .F16 built at Kamra will be a lot cheaper .
you would need a number in 100s for that not going to happen with our econmy , should nt happen either better throw that money in jf-17
 
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I don't think India will buy F16s on Mati visit .If that happens Pak should negotiate that deal with American .Trump is bussinessman they will sell Us .F16 built at Kamra will be a lot cheaper .


LOL LO LOL o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O

what with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
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LOL LO LOL o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O

what with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It won't be expensive we know plane plus we can do installment with Yanks it's not impossible. BUT INDIA NOT GONNA BUY THEIOR PLANE .
 
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It won't be expensive we know plane plus we can do installment with Yanks it's not impossible. BUT INDIA WON'T NOT GONNA BUY THEIOR PLANE .

Are you ok?
America will never give any sensitive technology to Pakistan. You need to stop dreaming. Pakistan is already moving away from American camp, and now working with Russia and China.
 
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Are you ok?
America will never give any sensitive technology to Pakistan. You need to stop dreaming. Pakistan is already moving away from American camp, and now working with Russia and China.
What about current blk 52 's we have ?Grow up man they sold Pak sensitive tech in Past can do in future or they need ur permission? Either India has to buy this jet or Pak will trust me .Nobody leaving nobody my friend it's business as usual and will continue .
 
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look PAF is not going to buy a different aircraft, we should get over it. new yes, we are buying additional 100 thunders but not different
why, ..?
just study how Sweden kept russia at bay in cold war and you will have the answer

its just going to be f-16s & jf-17 to form total of 19 squardons ~ 360 ACs vs 32-42 IAF sqs

now nuclear strategic mirages 2-3sq can be replace by strategic fighter like fifth gen but gona happen after 2025
 
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