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Procurement of new aircraft in PAF

My first premise was resource constraint. The assumption was a choice of either 4.5 gen now and delay your acquisition of 5th generation till 2030 as I dont think we will have the resources to do so again or counter all the capabilities of the Rafale with a potentially superior platform which will then not only negate the advantages of the Rafale but give any aggressor some food for thought. EFT ,J11/16/SU35 at best give us comparative parity yet we still lose out on the numbers game for the very simple reason that the enemy can get more platforms.
The other variable in the equation is the development cycle of the JFT which should not be discounted. We may have counted on 3 batches/blocks but the development will continue and as our capacity to incorporate newer tech increases the JFT will become a very able work horse which can be fielded in numbers to counter the enemy. The feeling of superiority of the enemy will dissipate once they lose a few of their behemoths to it. However the sheer numberical superiority of adversary will pose problems and in order to have parity none of the 4.5 generation make sense. Now look at the board again and tell me if you could field a couple of squadrons of j20s how confident will your enemy be to confront it.
There are other variables as to whether we will achieve the number of sorties required or what will be the cost of these sorties and whether that in its own right will make the platform unmaintainable for us and indeed whether the Chinese will sell it to us. The answer to the above can only be given by tbe PAF high ups not anarmchair General like me.
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Fully agreed but for how long- that is the question. The problem with acquisitions of such nature is that it will push India firmly into the US camp and they will be asking for the F35.So the game will go on. The eventual outcome of all of this will be a lot of bhookay and nangayy awam on both side of the border. As I have said before War is a Zero sum game and eventually both sides will lose out in a war. There are other wars which are bei g fought on the economic front where we have already lost out. More than the 90s the 2000s have been the lost decade for us. And yet people have not really understood how wars are being fought in the modern times.
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Customize J-20 will be better then F-35 because it will be able to go deep undetected (bird size RCS are detected but not seen as threat so not painted on radar screens) with bigger payload.
 
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A cheaper alternative to ALCMs in conventional role are SOW's like Denel Raptor III (range <= 300 km). PAF is already using Raptor I (H-2) and Raptor II (H-4) which are manufactured under license in Pakistan.

Raad was developed primarily for nuclear role (with Mirages). Do you think Pakistan can't develop a conventional ALCM (for JF-17s) with 230 Kg warhead ?

Whether Pakistan can produce such small nuclear warheads is another question.

I am sure they can build but off the shelf buying might be cheaper . but I agree h2 and h4 can be used effectively for same purpose
 
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Customize J-20 will be better then F-35 because it will be able to go deep undetected (bird size RCS are detected but not seen as threat so not painted on radar screens) with bigger payload.
Absolutely, but the Zero sum game hypothesis remains. Everytime a nation feels outclassed we will have a nuke exchange. It is not a question of IF but WHEN. This is why inspite of war mongering nothing will happen or something big will happen and all will go up in smoke.
 
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FC-20 needs to be bought in to counter Rafale till we get our stealth aircraft simply !!
 
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the only jet that seems to be inducted in near future is JFT blk 3 and the reason is simple we dont have the funds to buy any new platform. our PM is begging the whole world and IMF in order to provide basic necessities to pakistani nation and it will be insanity to spend that fund on some weapons which are very much useless as india will never engage pak in a full scale war. for LIC F-16s and JFT with smart weapons are sufficient.
 
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Would really appreciate it if someone can tell me that whether Russia ever delivered the Mi-35M Gunships? Because I have not seen any pics or videos of their induction or presence in our inventory.
 
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Would really appreciate it if someone can tell me that whether Russia ever delivered the Mi-35M Gunships? Because I have not seen any pics or videos of their induction or presence in our inventory.
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Welcome out of Hibernation...
I don't know what triggered you but this is not a decent way to reply

Would really appreciate it if someone can tell me that whether Russia ever delivered the Mi-35M Gunships? Because I have not seen any pics or videos of their induction or presence in our inventory.
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more here: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/mi-35-reaches-pakistan.553083/
 
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FC-20 needs to be bought in to counter Rafale till we get our stealth aircraft simply !!
Maybe we can ask for a customized version with that stealth coating j16 got, a couple squadrons of j10s with stealth coating will be a real boost for PAF.
 
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