Pro-ISIS mob attacks Kurdish protesters with machetes, knives in Germany

[TankMan]

@TankMan

Pakistani origin jamaat, with multinational members.

The pro ISIS mob?
Bloody hell, some nutcase Pakistanis making us all look like terrorists. Pricks need to be given a Pakistani psychotherapy (pictured below)

 

[Alienoz_TR]

The pro ISIS mob?
Bloody hell, some nutcase Pakistanis making us all look like terrorists. Pricks need to be given a Pakistani psychotherapy (pictured below)
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Forum member @BaybarsHan is from Germany. He told, Kurds attacked first at the jamaat. Salafis responded.

 

[Declein]

You do not worry. Biggest threat to Romania are Roma. Rofl

I appreciate the (bad) joke tentative, but the current development in the ME impacts us all - some less that others, of course - but nevertheless, there is a Muslim minority here, and people move freely from E Europe to the West, and the other way around.

ISI? Are you Indian?
I think you mean ISIS. lol.

Ups..it's 1.14 AM here..

No, really no, not unless you want Germany to become a war zone. Shooting at both sides will create a panic, people will get more violent and desperate and molotovs will start flying. Bad idea. I agree that they should leave their politics behind (which, by the way, has nothing to do with medieval stuff) when they move anywhere.

I am a bit sceptical of the "pro-ISIS mob" thing, it seems to be more like a Kurds vs Turks problem and not "Pro ISIS mobs", but since I wasn't there, I can't really tell.
Media and their stupid sensationalism, it's getting impossible to trust headlines nowadays.

I disagree - the sort of mentality that has taken root in a minority (I hope) of the western Muslims is medieval, by any definition. I'm pointing at fundamentalism, and the "ISIS mob"
It's time more harsher methods where used by the Europeans in dealing with this, "multiculturalism" is a pipe dream, this people don't want to, and can't integrate in any way.

 

[TankMan]

Forum member @BaybarsHan is from Germany. He told, Kurds attacked first at the jamaat. Salafis responded.

Oh well, that's basically what happens in riots, every side blames the other and at the end both are at fault.
There is still absolutely no justification for supporting ISIS.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

I appreciate the (bad) joke tentative, but the current development in the ME impacts us all - some less that others, of course - but nevertheless, there is a Muslim minority here, and people move freely from E Europe to the West, and the other way around.

Your Muslim minority is Tatar community.

 

[TankMan]

I disagree - the sort of mentality that has taken root in a minority (I hope) of the western Muslims is medieval, by any definition. I'm pointing at fundamentalism, and the "ISIS mob"
It's time more harsher methods where used by the Europeans in dealing with this, "multiculturalism" is a pipe dream, this people don't want to, and can't integrate in any way.

In my opinion European countries should be absolutely clear that immigrants will not have the right to do certain things, such as protest about religion etc. There should be some documentation every immigrant has to sign, stating that they will not engage in certain activities and that they will be deported if they do.
The problem with the above suggestion is that it could be abused to stop people doing legitimate, peaceful things (like going to mosques for prayer etc).
Its either that or give up on immigrants entirely and stop calling yourselves liberal, tolerant, freedom and all that kind of stuff.
You can't be harsh on so called multiculturalism and be liberal and tolerant at the same time.

 

[Declein]

Your Muslim minority is Tatar community.

& Turkish, but there are also some Arabs.
Not that I'm very worried about them... what's worrying is going to Western Europe and getting blown up by a moron fresh back from Syria, or the kind of measures that might arise in W Europe if there's an increase in terrorism..

@TankMan IMHO, it's not black or white. Multiculturalism should mean that you are free to pursue you're culture/religion up to the point in which you became a nuisance to the general population, or to other minority groups,. If it reaches that point, your right stops - and it's not discrimination.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

& Turkish, but there are also some Arabs.
Not that I'm very worried about them... what's worrying is going to Western Europe and getting blown up by a moron fresh back from Syria, or the kind of measures that might arise in W Europe if there's an increase in terrorism..

@TankMan IMHO, it's not black or white. Multiculturalism should mean that you are free to pursue you're culture/religion up to the point in which you became a nuisance to the general population, or to other minority groups,. If it reaches that point, you're right stops - and it's not discrimination

I can guarantee that these historical Turkish & Tatar minority are not going to blow themselves. Arabs must be new arrivals, dunno about them. Didnt exist back 100 years ago.

 

[Hiptullha]

frankly sir US does not need any reason to invade a small county !

No, they don't need in control of a small country.
They need to be in control of the WHOLE WORLD.
Which is why they're in Syria right now. Assad's one of the last major resistances to American influence in the Middle East.

 

[TankMan]

@TankMan IMHO, it's not black or white. Multiculturalism should mean that you are free to pursue you're culture/religion up to the point in which you became a nuisance to the general population, or to other minority groups,. If it reaches that point, your right stops - and it's not discrimination.

I agree with that. The problem is: where do you draw the line? Do you draw it at protest or at rioting? And then, who do you punish, whose right do you stop? Do you start distrusting the entire Muslim population after an incident? If not, then what's the point of drawing a line in the first place?

I like the idea of it not being black and white. The problem is that in such issues, being in the gray area isn't really possible without having incidents like the one this thread is about.At the end of the day, Its up to the governments to decide what they want to do about the social issues in their countries.

 

[SenLin]

A bit longer video.

The joys and wonders of multiculturalism.

 

[punit]

No, they don't need in control of a small country.
They need to be in control of the WHOLE WORLD.
Which is why they're in Syria right now. Assad's one of the last major resistances to American influence in the Middle East.

you supporting Assad Sir!

 

[TheNoob]

Not a single country left in the world where Muslims are not creating nuisance......

If you think IS and its supporters are muslims.
Then You're really wrong..

Every true muslim with a bridge to reality have long abandoned their kind.

 

[Schutz]

A convoy of kurds flying flags just drove past me here in Wales lol, I support the Kurds of course as they are yet again being targeted but if you want to help then go and defend your homeland.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

A convoy of kurds flying flags just drove past me here in Wales lol, I support the Kurds of course as they are yet again being targeted but if you want to help then go and defend your homeland.

They already sent their wives and daughters to Syria, men are in Wales for PR. LOL...