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Prime Minister expected to issue important statement on Yemen issue

Not even that, they don't standup for their own kind the Palestinians, they didn't help us in 1971, they never raised voice over Kashmir, UAE collaborated with India to harm us, so what exactly have they done for us?.
maybe not directly anything for us but a lot for the political leadership and their families. they do employ few hundred thousand Pakistanis as well and they have some investment in Pakistan too.

we lack principles and have little to no standards so their treatment of us is understandably dismissive.
there is nothing brotherly about it, we need to come out of this laughable misconception. it these same Arab "muslims" who have for centuries spilled each other's blood and have done tremendous harm to each other than Israel can ever imagine. we should expect any lenient treatment.

Arab monarchies are unjust to their own people so Palestinians or Kashmiris cant expect any better. its pure and simple self interests and I cant fault any Arab government over it. Nawaz took 1.5 Billion dollars from them so they are clearly pissed off UAE has spoken on behalf of KSA actually so this is why it has caused a shock to Pakistan. and there was no word from our Foreign office.

it all depends on Gen Raheel who might decide to send his troops to die in an Arab infighting by branding it as safeguarding the Holy sites although they are hundreds of miles away from the Yemeni border and the Houthis have no means of reaching en masse safely near the borders of KSA let alone make few miles into Saudi territory before being shred to pieces by the might of Saudi airborne force consisting of Typhoons, F-15s and Apaches.
 
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No I don't think so. These Middle Eastern wars won't be ending soon and they will need us with time to time IMO. Reluctance of some sort was needed from our side but it shouldn't be completely NO to them. They will know that it wont be easy to drag Pakistan easily now after. They might also pay you back good too. Also Iran will some how get the message that , Pakistan has unwillingly stepped into this war because of sheer pressure applied by the GCC.

Iran is no fool we had great relationship with them till we fuckedd up in Afghanistan by supporting different groups who now hate us anyway. Iran knows we are a poor nation and are easily persuaded.

Politics is changing in Pakistan, politicians the military has realized that the public is not the same what it was 10 years ago.
 
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Politics is changing in Pakistan, politicians the military has realized that the public is not the same what it was 10 years ago.

Yes that's why the much needed reluctance shown by us now how ever long way to go before we can really say NO to them.
 
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Both sides (GCC vs Pakistan) have done and undergone enough damage now diplomatically and politically, even if the decision is now changed it won’t reverse the damage of both the sides on the ground.
blood of our troops will change that.

my father has served on that border back in 80s. our forces lost soldiers and officers in those border skirmishes in Najran / Sharurah sector.

but I agree with you that we are absolutely pathetic in terms of our diplomacy. politicians promised one thing behind doors and did something else. Gen Raheel is the obstacle here if he changes mind and orders his troops to cross into Yemen (we have a sizeable force already there) then Arabs will be pleased.

Iran is no fool we had great relationship with them till we fuckedd up in Afghanistan by supporting different groups who now hate us anyway. Iran knows we are a poor nation and are easily persuaded.

Politics is changing in Pakistan, politicians the military has realized that the public is not the same what it was 10 years ago.
one thing to clarify its not Iran vs KSA for us

our stance must be purely based on self interest and principles staying neutral shouldn't be seen by Arabs as being pro Iran and sending forces shouldn't be seen as anti Iran.


this will be the test of diplomacy. we must not send troops just to appease the Arabs for their own conflict where they are not willing to loose their Arab soldiers in the ground offensive. likewise remaining out of this conflict shouldn't translate that we approve Iran.
 
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We never requested their troops inside Pakistan nor we need their incompetent force. All we always need was Oil and money which they always provided us. Please check the history.Thanks!
why don't you volunteer and get others like minded to volunteer and fight, no need to for Pak army with brave souls like you around.
Pakistan army isn't fighting there war and if nawaz does decide to send troops i'll give it a week maybe? PTI will finally get reelections
 
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why don't you volunteer and get others like minded to volunteer and fight, no need to for Pak army with brave souls like you around.
Pakistan army isn't fighting there war and if nawaz does decide to send troops i'll give it a week maybe? PTI will finally get reelections

LOL.

P.S I am a staunch PTI supporter. Though I don't agree with him all the time. When IK will come into power, he will realizes that the things are not that easy than issuing rhetoric on a container.

Talking about Pakistani troops do you know how much Pak Army benefits from Oil subsidiary and defense deals with Saudia ? you won't all that to jeopardize by your naive chest thumping ? We need relations with Iran too and have to sign IP gas pipeline project asap to encounter Iran's grudges against us. I don't want Pakistan to piss off any body. This has to be dealt smartly.
 
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Politics is changing in Pakistan, politicians the military has realized that the public is not the same what it was 10 years ago.

Yes that's why the much needed reluctance shown by us now how ever long way to go before we can really say NO to them.

Well it's a start, you have to start from somewhere, no better time then present.

LOL.

P.S I am a staunch PTI supporter. Though I don't agree with him all the time. When IK will come into power, he will realizes that the things are not that easy than issuing rhetoric on a container.

Talking about Pakistani troops do you know how much Pak Army benefits from Oil subsidiary and defense deals with Saudia ? you won't all that to jeopardize by your naive chest thumping ? We need relations with Iran too and have to sign IP gas pipeline project asap to encounter Iran's grudges against us. I don't want Pakistan to piss off any body. This has to be dealt smartly.

We don't need their subsidiary or anything else for that matter if it involves butchering other innocent Muslims for their regional rivalries.
 
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blood of our troops will change that.

my father has served on that border back in 80s. our forces lost soldiers and officers in those border skirmishes in Najran / Sharurah sector.

but I agree with you that we are absolutely pathetic in terms of our diplomacy. politicians promised one thing behind doors and did something else. Gen Raheel is the obstacle here if he changes mind and orders his troops to cross into Yemen (we have a sizeable force already there) then Arabs will be pleased.


one thing to clarify its not Iran vs KSA for us

our stance must be purely based on self interest and principles staying neutral shouldn't be seen by Arabs as being pro Iran and sending forces shouldn't be seen as anti Iran.


this will be the test of diplomacy. we must not send troops just to appease the Arabs for their own conflict where they are not willing to loose their Arab soldiers in the ground offensive. likewise remaining out of this conflict shouldn't translate that we approve Iran.

We don't approve anyone, we just need to sort out own domestic security problems and better our economy, once that has happened then no one will dare threaten or orders us around.

I have a suggestion we send Pak army to fight in Yemen on a condition Saudis and UAE sends their troop to fight in Fata against TTP.
 
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Ask your self this If India went to war with Pakistan.Would these morons send their troops?
all they would do is send some chanda."us ka ham nay kya karna"
Well they helped in 1971 war and alot and also helped in every crises either natural or economical even a lamest person would know that...............
 
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Screw both the Sharifs if they send in the troops. This will be end of Pakistan that I hold dear. After that, it's all fair game.
 
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Well they helped in 1971 war and alot and also helped in every crises either natural or economical even a lamest person would know that...............

They also helped by funding extremist and they never raised a voice on Kashmir, they have bloods of many Pakistanis on their hand.

Screw both the Sharifs if they send in the troops. This will be end of Pakistan that I hold dear. After that, it's all fair game.

Pakher lala, how do you mean a fair game after that?.
 
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Well they helped in 1971 war and alot and also helped in every crises either natural or economical even a lamest person would know that...............
Seriously? your comparing financial aid with Pakistani military personal and btw we have helped them in many of their wars to ....even the most absurd of people would know that
 
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Not even that, they don't standup for their own kind the Palestinians, they didn't help us in 1971, they never raised voice over Kashmir, UAE collaborated with India to harm us, so what exactly have they done for us?.
Are you sure about 1971 and also about Kashmir. And i dont give shit about UAE but Saudia helped us when ever we needed. And as far as Kashmir is concerned IF YOU CANNOT STAND FOR YOUR OWN RIGHT. THAN HOW CAN YOU EXPECT SOMEONE ELSE TO STAND FOR YOU. YOU KNOW MOST OF OUR MEDIA DONT EVEN RECOGNISE KASHMIR AS OUR PART. SEE THE MAPS USED BY MOST MEDIA CHANNELS. DONT JUST GIVE SHIT TO MAKE YOUR STAND FIRM.
 
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Are you sure about 1971 and also about Kashmir. And i dont give shit about UAE but Saudia helped us when ever we needed. And as far as Kashmir is concerned IF YOU CANNOT STAND FOR YOUR OWN RIGHT. THAN HOW CAN YOU EXPECT SOMEONE ELSE TO STAND FOR YOU. YOU KNOW MOST OF OUR MEDIA DONT EVEN RECOGNISE KASHMIR AS OUR PART. SEE THE MAPS USED BY MOST MEDIA CHANNELS. DONT JUST GIVE SHIT TO MAKE YOUR STAND FIRM.
Niggah please
Pakistani people disown there media everyone knows half of our media is funded by foreign element's and has there been a day when the media hasn't been criticized.Media is shit and anyways Kashmir is the Jugular vein of Pakistan(to all indians watching this amusing thread)
 
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