President Trump launches military strike against the Al-Assad regime

[Max]

You are angry but at the wrong people. Its the Americans who is killing your people. Take your anger on them !

i am angry at you pathetic timing of point scoring for your oppression against Uyghur despite knowing whole world is divided on this dispute let alone Muslim world.

 

[Globenim]

The fact he has chemical weapons is not in question,

People like you, your media and your intel and your politicians made up and repeated the same kind of lies the last time as well about alleged "facts" and "credible intel" and "evidence" that got completely blown up and debunked later on in silence and only some unsatisfying excuses like that unproven story of "USA buying chemical weapons from dealer" just obfuscating and distracting from the matter remained. You even have the "little crying girl telling her horrible made up eyewitness story toldby her parets" on board again. What exactly is different and makes it not WMD 2.0. all over again this time? The slightly more elaborate foreign backed crisis actors on the ground due to experience from WMD 1.0?

 

[T-72M1]

Its fine, they didnt give Trump any cred...just US military.

Neither will they make any comment on the prior information given to Russian military about these strikes....there was possibly some coordination with Russia too...who knows for sure (Putin may have wanted to put Assad under leash more esp given they are winning and have no real need for violation of the earlier agreement on WMD, but had no effective way to do it himself without harming Assad disproportionately).

There is still a good rift between neocons and Trump after all....lets wait and see for rest of this month at least....what the consolidated military actions are and the responses and optics. This is beginning of a series of events it looks like, so its early to reach conclusions.

true, early days yet but this is still very worrying, shit move by Trump/US.

dog eater chinki you have disappointed me very much.

lol

 

[Bubblegum Crisis]

Did they try??

How many bullets you have in your gun ?






...

 

[19887]

they are clearing way for israel already depopulated most of syria in the form of migrants .After this empty area will be captured by israel

You're not up to date,We are currently planning to conquer Mars, a Zionist asteroid found gold on Mars
But the Marsistinians were there before us,We called Trump, he agreed to send money
Enjoy with Syria, we are occupying Mars!!!!

 

[Imran Khan]

we pakistanis simply stay away and should not care both syria or USA not our business

 

[T-Rex]

Where were our "beloved" "Muslim" leaders between 2011 and late 2015 when the Russians finally showed up? Nowhere to be seen. They were afraid of losing their own thrones during the "Arab Spring" mostly and pre-2011 they were tolerating/meeting with/giving medals to the same Bashar al-Assad that was oppressing Syrians. We even invited Bashar as one of the chief guests when KAUST opened. Remember?



Can you also spot Ali Abdullah Saleh on the left? "Great" friend of ours today.

Same story with Ali Abdullah Saleh that we are now fighting in Yemen. Such brilliant policies of our useless leaders.

The only one I have any hope left for is MBS. He is one of us and from our generation.

We see the results of our "beloved" "Muslim" leaders and their policies in the region. We as Muslims and especially Arabs must be very content seeing what is going on in Syria and elsewhere. But let us continue to blindly follow them. It has worked "fantastically" so far after all. The masses are also very, very content about the entire situation. Especially our brothers and sisters in Syria. They have much "praise" left for our leaders. I am sure of this! Especially those children that were gassed to death recently. "We" could have prevented this but alas. Same old shit and then we wonder why nobody respects Muslims and why we do not even respect each other. Idiots will remain idiots and until they help themselves nobody will help them but use them as a punching bag and nothing else.

Stop defending the indefensible (the silence of our leaders). In times such as those (where people like me are forced to applaud something that we should have done years ago) we need to walk with our heads down and not pretend that everything is alright or try to save face.

I am sick and tired of this attitude and my views are in the majority. Just take a simple look at the social media. I am being "civil" here in my criticism.

Russians and other criminals have been carpet bombing our brothers and sisters day and night and what have we done? Looked away. Pathetic and those same "Muslim" leaders are talking about helping Palestinians and other nonsense. What a joke. What did our leaders do post-2003 in Iraq other than hand that country over to a bunch of foreigners (Iranian Mullah's)? The list of incompetence is several km long. I will end it here as I don't have the patience nor am I in the mood to discuss such issues on a forum like this.

Brother, we have no leaders but crooks with guns posing as our leaders.

 

[Nilgiri]

true, early days yet but this is still very worrying, shit move by Trump/US.

How so? It basically leads to Obama and the dumbocrats policy being shredded (as far as their efforts to create a water tight agreement with Putin regarding assads chemical weapons).

Trump needs some foreign policy ammo to be able to go after the washington swamp big time, esp with Susan Rice providing a good opening route for it right now.

Giving Assad, Russia and Iran a complete freehand is not a prudent or wise move.

Trump needs to show he is flexible when dealing with Russia...and speak a language Putin both understands and respects (past the veneer optics + gesturing)..

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

S-400 are good against fighter jets not so effective against cruise missiles anyways. Please guys don't over rate its capability.

As far as today's strike is concerned, lets wait for some time that US is really in or its just one limited strike. S

 

[monitor]

U.S. strikes Syrian military
military airfield in first direct assault on Bashar al-Assad’s government
By Dan Lamothe, Missy Ryan, Thomas Gibbons-Neff

April 6, 2017 at 11:23 PM

Washington Post reporter Dan Lamothe explains why President Trump launched 59 Tomahawk missiles at a Syrian military airfield on April 6 and what this means for the fight against the Islamic State. (The Washington Post)
The U.S. military launched 59 cruise missiles at a Syrian military airfield late on Thursday, in the first direct American assault on the government of President Bashar al-Assad since that country’s civil war began six years ago.

The operation, which the Trump administration authorized in retaliation for a chemical attack killing scores of civilians this week, dramatically expands U.S. military involvement in Syria and exposes the United States to heightened risk of direct confrontation with Russia and Iran, both backing Assad in his attempt to crush his opposition.

President Trump said the strike was in the “vital national security interest” of the United States and called on “all civilized nations to join us in seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria. And also to end terrorism of all kinds and all types.”


“We ask for God’s wisdom as we face the challenge of our very troubled world,” he continued. “We pray for the lives of the wounded and for the souls of those who have passed and we hope that as long as America stands for justice then peace and harmony will in the end prevail.”

Related: U.S. strike against Syria: How did we get here?

The missiles were launched from two Navy destroyers — the USS Ross and USS Porter — in the eastern Mediterranean. They struck an airbase called Shayrat in Homs province, which is the site from which the planes that conducted the chemical attack in Idlib are believed to have originated. The targets included air defenses, aircraft, hangars and fuel.

The military said initial indications were that the strike had “severely damaged or destroyed Syrian aircraft and support infrastructure.”

Syrian state TV said a U.S. missile attack hit a number of military targets inside the country, calling the attack an “aggression,” according to the Associated Press.

U.S. officials said the Russians, who maintain significant forces in Syria, were given advance warning of the strike. There is a Russian military area at the base that was hit, but the U.S. took precautions not to strike that area, according to Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman.


In comparison, the start of the Iraq war in 2003 saw the use of roughly 500 cruise missiles and 47 were fired at the opening of the anti-Islamic State campaign in Syria in 2014.

Related: These are the missiles the U.S. used in the strike against Syria

The attack may put hundreds of American troops now stationed in Syria in greater danger. They are advising local forces in advance of a major assault on the Syrian city of Raqqa, the Islamic State’s de facto capital.

President Trump made a statement on April 6 after U.S. forces launched more than 50 cruise missiles at a Syrian military airfield late Thursday. The Trump administration authorized the attack in retaliation after a chemical attack against civilians. (The Washington Post)
The decision to strike follows 48 hours of intense deliberations by U.S. officials, and represents a significant break with the previous administration’s reluctance to wade militarily into the Syrian civil war and shift any focus from the campaign against the Islamic State.

Senior White House officials met on the issue of Syria Wednesday evening in a session that lasted into early Thursday, and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, have communicated repeatedly since Tuesday’s chemical attack, the officials said.

The U.S. Central Command has had plans for striking the Syrian government for years and currently has significant assets in the region, enabling a quick response once a decision was made.


While the Obama White House began operations against the Islamic State in 2014, it backed away from a planned assault on Syrian government sites a year earlier after a similar chemical attack on Syrian civilians.

Tuesday’s apparent nerve gas attack in northern Idlib, with its widely circulated images of lifeless children, appears to have galvanized Trump and some of his top advisers to harden their position against the Syrian leader.

The assault adds new complexity to Syria’s prolonged conflict, which includes fighters battling the Syrian government and others focused on combatting the Islamic State, which despite over two years of American and allied attacks remains a potent force.

Related: Deadly nerve agent sarin used in Syria attack, Turkish Health Ministry says

Within the administration, some officials urged immediate action against Assad, warning against what one described as “paralysis through analysis.” But others were concerned about second- and third-order effects, including the response of Russia, which also has installed sophisticated air-defense systems in Syria, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

The Trump administration’s position on the strongman appears to have quickly shifted in the wake of the chemical attack, as senior officials voiced new criticism of the Syrian leader.

On Thursday night, McMaster predicted the strikes would result in a “big shift on Assad’s calculus. It’s the first time United States has taken direct military action.”

McMaster described a deliberative process inside the White House and National Security Council, where three options were examined at the request of the president. Trump made the final decision and the strike “clearly indicate the president is willing to take decisive action when called for.” He emphasized, however, that the move did not otherwise alter the U.S. military’s posture in Syria.


Earlier Thursday, Tillerson suggested that the United States and other nations would consider somehow removing Assad from power, but he did not say how. Just a few days ago, the White House had said that removing Assad was not realistic with press secretary Sean Spicer saying it was necessary to accept the “political reality” in Syria.

“We are considering an appropriate response for this chemical weapons attack,” Tillerson said in Palm Beach, Fla., where Trump was meeting Thursday with Chinese President Xi Jinping. “It is a serious matter. It requires a serious response,” he said.

Speaking later Thursday, Tillerson recalled a 2013 agreement with Syria to hand over its chemical stockpile and for Russia to monitor that Assad not renege on that deal: “Clearly, Russia has failed in its responsibility on that commitment. Either Russia has been complicit or has been incompetent on its ability to deliver,” he said.

The summit with the Chinese leader will continue Friday, and some U.S. officials believe the strike will also serve as a warning of U.S. willingness to strike North Korea, if China does not act to curtail the nuclear ambitions of the government there.

Related: Trump condemns Syria chemical attack and suggests he will act

It was not immediately clear whether Thursday’s assault marked the beginning of a broader campaign against the Assad government. While Thursday’s operation was the first intentional attack on Syrian government targets, the United States accidentally struck a group of Syrian soldiers in eastern Syria last year in what officials concluded was the result of human error.

The Obama administration had insisted that Assad could never remain in any postwar Syria, and it supported rebel groups that have tried unsuccessfully to oust him.

The United States has a broad arsenal already in the region, including dozens of strike aircraft on the USS George H.W. Bush, an aircraft carrier that is deployed to the Middle East and accompanied by guided-missile destroyers and cruisers that can also launch Tomahawk cruise missiles.

Additionally, an amphibious naval force in the region includes the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit with Harrier jets and Cobra gunships. The Pentagon also has scores of aircraft in the region flying operations every day against the Islamic State group, including from Incirlik air base to the north in Turkey.

Related: ‘The hospitals were slaughterhouses’: A journey into Syria’s secret torture wards

The attack appears to have involved only missiles. U.S. fighter planes, if used, would have had to contend with a modest web of Syrian air defenses and potentially more advanced types of surface-to-air missiles provided by Russia.

One of Assad’s more prevalent systems, the S-200, was used to target Israeli jets last month, but missiles were intercepted by Israeli defense systems. The S-200 has a range of roughly 186 miles, according to U.S. military documents, and can hit targets flying at altitudes of around 130,000 feet.

Russian S-300 and S-400 missiles, located primarily around Khmeimim air base in western Syria, have a shorter range than the S-200, but have more-advanced radar systems and fly considerably faster than their older counterparts used by Syrian forces. The S-300 has a range of roughly 90 miles and could also be used to target incoming U.S. cruise missiles.

In a joint statement, Sens. John McCain (R.-Ariz.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said the operation “sent an important message the United States will no longer stand idly by as Assad, aided and abetted by Putin’s Russia, slaughters innocent Syrians with chemical weapons and barrel bombs.”

They also called on the administration to take Assad’s air force out of the fight and follow “through with a new, comprehensive strategy in coordination with our allies and partners to end the conflict in Syria.”

David Nakamura in Palm Beach, Fla., and Abby Phillip, Anne Gearan, Carol Morello and David Weigel in Washington contributed to this report.

Read more:

Related: Trump and his ‘America First’ philosophy face first moral quandary in Syria

Related: Which chemical weapon was used in Syria? Here’s what investigators know.

Related: While Trump talks tough on Assad, others are already taking his regime to court

 

[T-Rex]

Mass demonstrations post Arab-Spring are combated actively by the regimes in power. If 100.000 people went into the streets in Riyadh to protest the recent chemical attack or just the state of our region, they would have been prevented. If what I have discussed in this thread was discussed by a too big number of people, say on the internet, our discussion would be censored and the "leaders" of such discussions/forums would receive a visit from the authorities. This is the sad reality and it is not much different in most Muslim nations, sadly.

Our voices have been silenced in most cases by local thugs like sissy appointed by the military or the western camp or the Russian camp. In other words, where Muslims are majority democracy isn't allowed and the reason is obvious.

You are completely right about everything else and those two categories. You forgot the 2 other categories among the many. The ultra-radicals (finding solace in ISIS-like groups - mostly hopeless people or very religious people who became misguided and who were also politically motivated by seeing the status quo and the lack of action) and the ultra-liberals who renounce everything about their country, culture, people etc. and never acknowledge anything good.

Islam has been hijacked by the Daesh terrorists and in this situation the secular terrorists (sissy, assad) try to present them selves as the only alternative which is of course a lie.

And trust me, objectively speaking, there is nothing to celebrate about this news. An US president ordering an attack against an Arab state. But this is how desperate some of us have become and this should also give the leaders things to think about but I am afraid that they are mostly only caring about keeping their thrones intact and only doing the minimal necessary not to face too much potential opposition.

The so-called Muslim leaders are only good at clinging to their bloody thrones. They are perfect munafiks. Erdogan of Turkey is like an oasis in this desert we call the Muslim World.

 

[T-72M1]

How so? It basically leads to Obama and the dumbocrats policy being shredded (as far as their efforts to create a water tight agreement with Putin regarding assads chemical weapons).

Trump needs some foreign policy ammo to be able to go after the washington swamp big time, esp with Susan Rice providing a good opening route for it right now.

Giving Assad, Russia and Iran a complete freehand is not a prudent or wise move.

Trump needs to show he is flexible when dealing with Russia...and speak a language Putin both understands and respects (past the veneer optics + gesturing)..

appeasing the neocons and going along with their rotten foreign policy agenda so he has 'ammo' to deal with his domestic agenda makes no sense.

under what pretext did he take this action anyway, that "brutal dictator" Assad gassed "beautiful babies" ?

sorry, not buying it.

these so called rebels are a bunch of saudi sponsored sallafist filth, no different to "ISIS", this was either a false flag by them or the Russians/Syrians hit a chemical munitions dump. Assad had zero reasons to do this.

 

[T-Rex]

these so called rebels are a bunch of saudi sponsored sallafist filth, no different to "ISIS", this was either a false flag by them or the Russians/Syrians hit a chemical munitions dump. Assad had zero reasons to do this.

Well, your idol Trump isn't buying your narrative. Perhaps its time for Putin to raise the rate of his bribe.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Looks like the base has been levelled...

At the very least asshead won't be able to use any chem weapons anymore I hope.

 

[Nefarious]

I thought S400 was going to intercept anything that came close, what happened?

I don't believe they're 'switched off'.