President Arif Alvi's tweet creates huge controversy

[Riz]

President Alvi and Prime Minister Khan should send supplies for the students or at least in their name but then also make a video directly to them, asking them to be strong, show courage and have patience.

Are there any reports of any Pakistanis in China being infected with the Virus?

US$ 90 deposited to the accounts of each student by govt of pakistan

 

[KhanBaba2]

all others brought students back and taking good care of their children.

They are not Islamic.

So many Pakistani say that Pakistan does not have the expertise. Not a single one seems to be angry that they do not have the expertise. Nobody asking the government why they do not have the expertise.

 

[SIPRA]

The decision, taken by the GOP, is by and large correct and sane.

 

[bananarepublic]

President Arif Alvi does have a doctor's degree and to an extent is more qualified for this than PM Imran Khan.

 

[NeonNinja]

Good decision by PTI government.

 

[Counter-Errorist]

Frankly, they're better off in China. China has far better health facilities, and they're putting an unprecedented amount of resources and manpower into studying, curing and tackling the crises. We will most likely mishandle the situation and end up with our own new crisis here.

The government, however, needs to ensure that the students are in contact with their families, and well taken care of in general.

 

[PakAlp]

Every nation is taking precautions, warning their citizens and taking care/bringing back their citizens. Only the Pakistani circus freaks use a hadis to support their inability and lackadaisical attitude toward their helpless citizens.

Our students can be brought back and kept at a military base and cared for by doctors wearing hazmat suits. Like one member suggested.

This is not one situation where our government/foreign office left Pakistanis alone. Pakistani businessmen who married Uighur women were also met with same attitude.

Nice post. The blessed hadith does not say leave your citizens in another country or it's not your responsibility to look after them. Yes the hadith is saying do not bring them back and let them mix with the public because obviously the virus will spread. It is just giving your the basic principle of isolating those with the disease for protection.

Pakistan Government should have made a isolated place in Pakistan and bought back the students as they are our citizens, if it was not possible then atleast send a big medical team and supplies to look after them. Show the world and the chinese that Pakistan looks after its own people and tries to help its neighbour. Instead we are acting like a beggar nation, requesting China to look after them and then using a hadith to hide from responsibility.

Pti government is sounding like PPP and PML N governments. What has changed?

 

[Mav3rick]

President of Pakistan Dr. Arif Alvi who have studied Dentistry in United States have quoted Prophet Muhammad ﷺ while tackling the subject of Pakistani students stuck in China. Dr Arif Alvi as a medical doctor should now that these Pakistani students could be kept in isolation and tested for symptoms. Pakistan could have evacuated all students and brought them to a isolated military base and kept them for 14 days to monitor their symptoms. Now twitter is criticizing Pakistan and especially President Arif Alvi. It seems that now even PTI has lost ground reality and not realising what damage they are doing to the reputation of Pakistan. Now is the time to act and bring back all the Pakistanis from China.

"Prophet's ﷺ directions regarding disease outbreaks are a good guide even 2day “If you hear of an outbreak of plague in a land, do not enter it, but if the plague breaks out in a place while you are in it, do not leave that place” (Bukhari & Muslim) Let us help those stuck there."

While my views on PTI leadership and Governance is no secret, I must support the stand of the Government on this matter and my opinion is that Arif Alvi is correct.

 

[xyx007]

Absolutely correct and I support my president , I [emoji817] believe on this hadidth.

 

[sohail.ishaque]

i think not bringing back is not any problem but not supporting these students financially and medically is major problem with govt as in viral video these students were claiming that they have no money and food for living in china and are left along and disowned by govt which is very bad attitude.
Our major problem is that we follow partial teachings of Islam when they supports our own interests and disregard other teachings which not align with our personal interests

Where are their families ?

 

[graphican]

Allah wishes best for us. People who are infected should stay within the area and fight the disease and do not leave unless they were fully healthy or Allah decided a different faith for them.

 

[313ghazi]

What kind of person has a problem with what is stated in hadith? Especially hadith which is specific to this situation? It is conventional wisdom to not travel in these situations. If we bought these people home and put them in a military base their chutiya relatives would be protesting the next week and the High court kanjars would be demanding their release hand in hand with the political left who'd be dancing around the fire of unlawful detention.

Better off leaving them in China, their government doesn't take shit from anyone, and is perfectly capable to fixing this.

So many Pakistani say that Pakistan does not have the expertise. Not a single one seems to be angry that they do not have the expertise. Nobody asking the government why they do not have the expertise.

It's not news to us. We've known for decades that our healthcare system is neglected. Children are dying every day from curable simple disease, why would it come as a surprise if we struggle to manage a new virus? Incompetence in all aspects of governance IS the accepted norm in Pakistan. We voted for a government 18 months ago to change that - but it could be a decade before we have real tangiable change overall.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

Actually the Prophet himself said that his advise on secular matters is not the same as his advise on religious matters.

I can not find the exact quote unfortunately but if anyone can provide the date palm tree cultivation incident story, please do. In the story, the Prophet PBUH saw a group of Muslims trying an experimental technique on cultivation, he disapproved of it. Latter on when he was informed that the harvest was poor this year's because the people of Madina did not try the new technique and stuck to His advice, he said that when it comes to secular matters and matters of professional traits, those who have experience in it know better than He PBUH does, but when it comes to Religious matters, then His knowledge is to be accepted whole heatedly.


So if a scientist is telling you that there is a better way than to leave the people there, then there advice is to be respected as well.

The guidelines of our Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) is above all - president is right.

 

[pak-marine]

its a very hard decision BUT I agree with president , I will simply never risk my family / home / friends getting infected with a deadly virus

 

[ShaikhKamal]

There are many Pakistani students from virus affected regions in China that have returned to Pakistan without any quarantine procedures. If you do not want the any Pakistani students to return from China then follow the rules for everyone. Why have these students allowed to return ?

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