Prepare India For 2-Front War: Parliamentary Panel

[Dash]

I still dont understand what do they mean by Shortage of Ammo...its like saying IAF doesnt have gas to fly planes..

 

[PoKeMon]

How is your assessment of USA and NATO loosing their wars in Afghanistan? Do you think USA has lost the war because Taliban has taken over USA or Europe? USA/NATO lost their war because they failed to gain their objectives and that makes Taliban in Afghanistan WIN..

Taliban killed 3000 Americans and destroy twin towers but US destroy whole of Iraq and Afghanistan.

FYI it destroys Pakistan as well if you noticed.

I think after taking out OBL, its revenge is more than successful. With Afghan, Iraq and almost Pakistan get destroyed, you can keep blabbering that you win the war.

If your assessment is India won the 65 war.. can you mention a single element of victory? India had rather lost several hundred kilometers to Pakistan. If India was winning.. why the holy hell it agreed for a seas-fire ?

Although you have spent a lot of time on PDF, still you are ignorant of the outcomes of Indo-pak wars.

Though it would be a waste to educate you once again, but let me give myself a chance by saying that 1965 war was indecisive and the same is well documented in all neutral sources.

And dont we have Kashmir which you guys claim to be yours and didn't we break you into 2?? Now decide who wins and who lose.

And its cease-fire not seas-fire.

 

[GR!FF!N]

I still dont understand what do they mean by Shortage of Ammo...its like saying IAF doesnt have gas to fly planes..

most of the people don't get it...it is just some tank rounds like APFSDS rounds,which india couldn't procured as india banned some israeli company.

 

[graphican]

As I said earlier, grass is really having its affect on you.. Pakistan's military and its politicians have been living a luxurious life by showing the bogey of India. Its citizen have been fed anti-india rhetoric since birth and dream of Ghazwa-e-Hind. You people dream of annexing Kashmir from India. You people talk of war with India at the drop of hat. You have the gall to accuse us of selling war-hatred!!! Simply amazing!

Ghazwa-e-Hind is not fed by any Leader into the hearts and minds of people in Pakistan. This ghazwa exists in the books of most credible and most researched 6 books of Ahadith compiled12 centuries ago. This shows your level of understanding on the subject and what you guys have been fed with.

 

[LeGenD]

Indo-Pakistan war in 1965 exhausted both nations actually. India succeeded in saving Kashmir under its control and Pakistan succeeded in defending its main territory. However, this war turned out to be a useless exercise.

Indo-Pakistan war in 1971 resulted in dismemberment of Pakistan. However, geographical division and internal issues of Pakistan also facilitated in its dismemberment and not just Indian intervention. Pakistan lacked the military capability to effectively defend its Eastern side and a chunk of populace in East Pakistan wanted separation.

When US came to the rescue, it was already too late.

Now coming towards China and India:

As you all can see, Indo-Chinese border is very complicated in geographical terms. Nepal and Bhutan also lay in between.

In case of a hypothetical conflict between India and China, the two nations will face logistical nightmares.

One option for China is to approach India from Pakistan. Another option is to approach India from the Indian Ocean. China possesses the capability to do both. However, conducting a Normandy style invasion is not yet possible from China from the waters.

What China can do is to engage Indian forces at the northern borders, simultaneously use Pakistani territory to attack India from the Western side and simultaneously use its Naval forces to keep Indian Naval forces busy from the Eastern side. The sheer size of Chinese military can make this possible. With support from Pakistan, China can defeat India in a conventional battle but this is only possible after several months of heavy build-up and preparation.

But then comes the nuclear scenario in the picture and every side will be back in to its cave.

 

[Papa]

Indo-Pakistan war in 1965 exhausted both nations actually. India succeeded in saving Kashmir under its control and Pakistan succeeded in defending its main territory. However, this war turned out to be a useless exercise.

Indo-Pakistan war in 1971 resulted in dismemberment of Pakistan. However, geographical division and internal issues of Pakistan also facilitated in its dismemberment and not just Indian intervention. Pakistan lacked the military capability to effectively defend its Eastern side and a chunk of populace in East Pakistan wanted separation.

When US came to the rescue, it was already too late.

Now coming towards China and India:

As you all can see, Indo-Chinese border is very complicated in geographical terms. Nepal and Bhutan also lay in between.

In case of a hypothetical conflict between India and China, the two nations will face logistical nightmares.

One option for China is to approach India from Pakistan. Another option is to approach India from the Indian Ocean. China possesses the capability to do both. However, conducting a Normandy style invasion is not yet possible from China.

What China can do is to engage Indian forces at the northern borders, simultaneously use Pakistani territory to attack India from the Western side and simultaneously use its Naval forces to keep Indian Naval forces busy from the Eastern side. The sheer size of Chinese military can make this possible. With support from Pakistan, China can defeat India in a conventional battle but this is only possible after several months of heavy build-up and preparation.

But then comes the nuclear scenario in the picture and every side will be back in to his cave.

Engagement of Pak in hypothetical war, will bring Russia, Israel(on Pak) and US(on China) into the action.

 

[Dash]

And what Pakistan will be willing to gain in case China starts a war??, nothing I will say. In spite they will be used to just satisfy Chinese strategy. In worst case scenario, the Chinese might inch a few land but Pak will not get Kashmir

Its as simple as that.

 

[CorporateAffairs]

China's women force alone has greater potential than entire Indian force

This post occupies the first place in all humor posts in

China can defeat India in a conventional battle but this is only possible after several months of heavy build-up and preparation.

Meanwhile, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong would have been limited to ashes by A5

 

[nithin]

^LOL at the user who thinks china can use pakistan to attack India

They will leave all stretch of 4500KMs of boundary between India and China and move their forces 2000KMs inland just to attack from P0K ? Now i understood why pakistan has been loosing all battles with India.. it's cause commanders also think like the above bozo here it seems..

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Engagement of Pak in hypothetical war, will bring Russia, Israel(on Pak) and US(on China) into the action.

1971 is good example, nobody comes to your aid.

The max these nations will do is put diplomatic pressure to end the conflict.

As you all can see, Indo-Chinese border is very complicated in geographical terms. Nepal and Bhutan also lay in between.

In case of a hypothetical conflict between India and China, the two nations will face logistical nightmares.

One option for China is to approach India from Pakistan. Another option is to approach India from the Indian Ocean. China possesses the capability to do both. However, conducting a Normandy style invasion is not yet possible from China from the waters.

What China can do is to engage Indian forces at the northern borders, simultaneously use Pakistani territory to attack India from the Western side and simultaneously use its Naval forces to keep Indian Naval forces busy from the Eastern side. The sheer size of Chinese military can make this possible. With support from Pakistan, China can defeat India in a conventional battle but this is only possible after several months of heavy build-up and preparation.

But then comes the nuclear scenario in the picture and every side will be back in to its cave.

You forgot the add the weather conditions:

Chinese operations will be very difficult in Winter and rainy season, considering these high peaks and also North _East India is the wettest place on earth.

 

[Sergi]

1971 is good example, nobody comes to your aid.

The max these nations will do is put diplomatic pressure to end the conflict.

In 71 Russia did helped us by stoping USA helping Pak
In today's situation if there is war on two front then there will be definately help to India from outside.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Meanwhile, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong would have been limited to ashes by A5

Conflict going nuclear is highly unlikely. Both Indian and Chinese armies are confident of their conventional capabilities.

In 71 Russia did helped us by stoping USA helping Pak

That was not true, But yes it is believed friendhsip treaty with the Soviets kept China out. Of course, nobody believed the war would end in 14 days.

In today's situation if there is war on two front then there will be definately help to India from outside.

Some chaps may come try to profit by selling weapons, beyond that nothing.

 

[jai231179]

Ghazwa-e-Hind is not fed by any Leader into the hearts and minds of people in Pakistan. This ghazwa exists in the books of most credible and most researched 6 books of Ahadith compiled12 centuries ago. This shows your level of understanding on the subject and what you guys have been fed with.

No, we've not been fed with anything here. Neither do we care where Ghazwa-e-Hind comes from. It can be from your politicians, it can be from a scripture like what u say, nevertheless it makes no difference. All that matter is that its there and its a nuisance to us.

You guys just don't get it do you. Pakistan and Pakistanis are not all that important to us Indians. All that we care about is that u are a neighbor that needs to be contained and a constant source of trouble for India. Other than that, no, we don't go out of our way trying to verify every piece of information we have about you or create propoganda just to make u look bad.

 

[Sergi]

Conflict going nuclear is highly unlikely. Both Indian and Chinese armies are confident of their conventional capabilities.



That was not true, But yes it is believed friendhsip treaty with the Soviets kept China out. Of course, nobody believed the war would end in 14 days.



Some chaps may come try to profit by selling weapons, beyond that nothing.

USA official document mention surfacing of Soviet Nuclear Sub surfacing near CBG and interception of ratio message of sub commander. Is it not true ???
It's in one of the threads in world section. It's a interview of American diplomat on 71 war

Selling weapons even for profit in the time of need is counted as help

 

[lkozhi]

USA official document mention surfacing of Soviet Nuclear Sub surfacing near CBG and interception of ratio message of sub commander. Is it not true ???
It's in one of the threads in world section. It's a interview of American diplomat on 71 war

Selling weapons even for profit in the time of need is counted as help

what kept them out was the closed himalayan passes. Thank Manek shaw.