Post-sanctions Iran: The next China?

[xenon54 out]

Dude, I guess you have misunderstood him completely,
First of all, categorizing people in middle east, we have
Sunni people, Shia people and Turks,
I mean, although you guys are Sunni but you are not referred as Sunni block in middle east analysis.
And secondly he doesn't mean ruling, ruling, you know what I mean? by ruling he means acquiring it's relative respected position. Else, the era of ruling and slavery has long been gone.

Ofcourse he doesnt mean Ruling in oldschool empire style but a Iran that is a political leader in ME, still im saying i dont see Iran having a single bit influence in any sunni state.

Im not even counting Turkey in the whole debate since Turkey also doesnt the ability to have a signifant influence in ME at best on smaller sunni states who are dependent on Turkish economy such as KRG.
Not to mention that Turkey also has other more importants spheres of influence such as Balkan muslim states, Azerbaijan, North Cyprus and partially Central Asia.

Too many major nations wanna become the leader of the Sunni block, Turkey, KSA, Egypt, even Qatar.

This makes the Sunni solidarity too difficult to happen, although they outnumber Shia by far.

Turkey doesnt have to ambition to become leader in ME belive me.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Our ideology was always not to meddle in ME and care about our own business, this prevented the spillower of conflicts to Turkey till Erdogan had to play the new savior of muslims.

Still i dont see a disaster coming towards us, could you be more specific?

A leader needs an ideology as its flag to command other people.

Turkey doesnt have to ambition to become leader in ME belive me.

Everyone talks like they are not ambitious, but by action it shows that they are all ambitious.

 

[New]

This corridor from Iran through Levant is a golden opportunity for Shia to rise on the top since the last thousand years.
Whether it is Israel or Sunni, they both don't like to see that happens and will try to destabilize it at any cost. The proxy war against Syria is definitely part of this plan.
Shia is a minority group who got curbed in the Islam community, they are very united when it comes to defend the Shia unity, and Iran is the absolute leader and brain to lead its little Shia brothers to its survival.
Sunni is much more numerous, but they don't have the strong solidarity like Shia, every Sunni nation wants to become the leader, unlike the Shia groups who only recognizes Iran as their rightful leader.

Ya dude, right from the exact moment that Iraq turned to be a brother and friendly nation toward Iran (In previous couple of years the maximum number of nations visiting nations in middle east has been Iraqis visit to Iran and vise versa by far) there has been triggering of plots to destabilize this ground route from Iran via Iraq and Syria to Lebanon, and now we are watching the show.
You know unlike others, this is a game of death or survive for Iran, Iraq, Syria and even Lebanon, hence that's the reason we are seeing different levels of efforts and persistence in handling the situation.

 

[xenon54 out]

Everyone talks like they are not ambitious, but by action it shows that they are all ambitious.

Maybe staying the leading Economy but seriously, i dont think that our goverment wants to be a political ''leader'' in ME, its just too messy there it would only give us a heache.
Besides we have more important areas we have to care for as i mentioned in post number 31.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Ya dude, right from the exact moment that Iraq turned to be a brother and friendly nation toward Iran (In previous couple of years the maximum number of nations visiting nations in middle east has been Iraqis visit to Iran and vise versa by far) there has been triggering of plots to destabilize this ground rout from Iran via Iraq and Syria to Lebanon, and now we are watching the show.
You know unlike others, this is a game of death or survive for Iran, Iraq, Syria and even Lebanon, hence that's the reason we are seeing different levels of efforts and persistence in handling the situation.

Yeah, it matters as the survival for Shia, that's why the solidarity is so strong. If you win, you are in the heave, if you lose, you are in the hell.

Well, Iran will eventually become a nuclear power, but just not the right moment to declare it. Not until the Shia corridor is fully consolidated. But they can't even have Iran got caught red handed, this makes the US and Israel getting pissed as hell.

 

[SOHEIL]

Our ideology was always not to meddle in ME and care about our own business, this prevented the spillower of conflicts to Turkey till Erdogan had to play the new savior of muslims.

Still i dont see a disaster coming towards us, could you be more specific?

Erdogan !

& his supporters ...

 

[C130]

Iran just wants to build up just enough to do a suicide mission attack Israel/US with nuclear weapons.
or til the 12th Imam...Muhammad Al-Mahdi shows, and well that'll be the sign of the end of the world?? and doesn't matter how rich and powerful your country becomes then

hopefully Iran changes it's tune and the rhetoric is just that rhetoric.

 

[New]

Iran just wants to build up just enough to do a suicide mission attack Israel/US with nuclear weapons.
or til the 12th Imam...Muhammad Al-Mahdi shows, and well that'll be the sign of the end of the world?? and doesn't matter how rich and powerful your country becomes then

It's not what Iran wants, It's what, propaganda wants you to believe,
Grow up, man.

 

[Echo_419]

Israel is essential for the US hegemony in the Middle East.

According to our think tank/military strategist, the biggest nightmare for Israel would be the Shia axis building a long corridor from Iran through Levant, meanwhile with Iran turns into a nuclear power.

The Sunni nations also won't be pleased to see this kind of outcome either. Because if Iran has won the proxy war against US-Israel in the Middle East, this means the Shia axis will become stronger than ever, and Iran's destiny to rule over the Middle East will become unstoppable.

What about the Turks & GCC

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Now they are mainly targeting Iraq instead of Syria, because Syria is a very hard piece of bone for them to chewing down.

Don't get fooled by those news, in fact Assad merely got tickled, and it won't shake its foundation.

But the US will not like to let them staying Iraq, because overthrowing Maliki will only benefit Iran again.

The US most likely will send them back to Syria to deal with Assad again.

What about the Turks & GCC

They have to first determine who will become the leader of the Sunni block.

If KSA becomes the leader without any opposition, then there will be two strong blocks in the Middle East in its future geopolitics.

 

[Echo_419]

Now they are mainly targeting Iraq instead of Syria, because Syria is a very hard piece of bone for them to chewing down.

Don't get fooled by those news, in fact Assad merely got tickled, and it won't shake its foundation.

But the US will not like to let them staying Iraq, because overthrowing Maliki will only benefit Iran again.

The US most likely will send them back to Syria to deal with Assad again.



They have to first determine who will become the leader of the Sunni block.

If KSA becomes the leader without any opposition, then there will be two strong blocks in the Middle East in its future geopolitics.

No the Turks & GCC wil form different groups,but GCC is in a very good position to lead ME they have a good military & good economy far better than the Iranians

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

No the Turks & GCC wil form different groups,but GCC is in a very good position to lead ME they have a good military & good economy far better than the Iranians

Most likely the Shia block led by Iran will make a standoff with the GCC in the near future Middle Eastern geopolitics.

But I am just not sure how the rivalry between KSA and Qatar will be solved, since Qatar always dreams to replace its big brother.

 

[Echo_419]

Most likely the Shia block led by Iran will make a standoff with the GCC in the near future Middle Eastern geopolitics.

But I am just not sure how the rivalry between KSA and Qatar will be solved, since Qatar always dreams to replace its big brother.

Qatar will be easily defeated & a Shia vs Sunni battle in ME will result in a massacre have you seen the Military capability of GCC & IRAN

 

[C130]

It's not what Iran wants, It's what, propaganda wants you to believe,
Grow up, man.

come on now. Iran is pretty fanatical about the coming war and religion.

destruction of Israel and the coming 12 Imam.
maybe the average Iranian doesn't take it serious, but the Mullahs and Top Brass do.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Qatar will be easily defeated & a Shia vs Sunni battle in ME will result in a massacre have you seen the Military capability of GCC & IRAN

KSA has required more advanced weapons from the foreign countries, but Iran is more self-reliant.

Once Iran becomes a nuclear power, KSA will likely follow the suit, thus the hot war will not likely happen, but the cold war in the Middle East yes.

And this will also make Israel feels quite uneasy.

Iran just wants to build up just enough to do a suicide mission attack Israel/US with nuclear weapons.
or til the 12th Imam...Muhammad Al-Mahdi shows, and well that'll be the sign of the end of the world?? and doesn't matter how rich and powerful your country becomes then

hopefully Iran changes it's tune and the rhetoric is just that rhetoric.

Everyone wants to become rich and powerful, nobody wants to become a suicide bomber.

Only a loser will do that.