Post-sanctions Iran: The next China?

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[Chinese-Dragon]

I guess it is something already on track by Iran.

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I think it's great, the more cooperation the better.

 

[xenon54 out]

I am not kidding.
The rise of Shia means Iran's domination over the Middle East.

Ruling over ME you gotta be kidding me, at best Iran has influence over Iraqi Shia goverment and Syria other than that i dont see Iran ruling anything there.

Since Turkey has been bundled by the NATO, it is hard to develop its own sphere in the Middle East, since you are not free like Iran.

Well, as you know we are done with this ''ruling'' chapter of history a century ago, a couple years ago Turkey had good relations to Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, KSA, and north Africa, basically all ME Nations but Erdogans stupid FP ruined it, i fail to see how NATO should prevent any relation to them.

And what do you mean with Iran more free than Turkey, last time i checked Iran was under International sanctions.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Dude, you seem a think tank, thanks.

I have learned this from our Think Tank.

BTW, the situation must be quite clearly now, there will only be one winner in the Middle East at the end.

Apart from the US-Israel hegemony, the SCO/BRICS will stay neutral between the Sunni-Shia feud and will only cooperate with the winner in this game, whether it is Sunni or Shia.

 

[SOHEIL]

I am absolutely neutral on the issue of the Middle East, but there must have winner in the outcome of this proxy war.

Either the US-Israel hegemony stays in the power.

Or the Shia axis led by Iran becomes the new boss in the area.

Or it is the Saudi-led gulf nations take the place from the US-Israel.

Iran turned Iraq / Afghanistan war into a trap for United States ...

But they can't learn from mistakes !

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Ruling over ME you gotta be kidding me, at best Iran has influence over Iraqi Shia goverment and Syria other than that i dont see Iran ruling anything there.



Well, as you know we are done with this ''ruling'' chapter of history a century ago, a couple years ago Turkey had good relations to Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, KSA, and north Africa, basically all ME Nations but Erdogans stupid FP ruined it, i fail to see how NATO should prevent any relation to them.

And what do you mean with Iran more free than Turkey, last time i checked Iran was under International sanctions.

Once the Shia axis has consolidated their corridor from Iran through Levant, you will see a tremendous change of the geopolitical landscape in the Middle East.

 

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I think it's great, the more cooperation the better

A union of such a BRICS+IRAN=BRIICS, means a block,
With more population (market) than the rest of the world,
With more oil reserve than the rest of the world,
With more gas reserve than the rest of the world,
Holding more number of strategic points than the rest of the world,
Holding more number of man power than the rest of the world.
....

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Iran turned Iraq / Afghanistan war into a trap for United States ...

But they can't learn from mistakes !

The war on Iraq has benefited Iran the most.

The US definitely hates Maliki's government and see them as the turncoat, but they won't abandon them right now.

Otherwise, this will benefit Iran again, a chaotic Iraq will again let Iran to increase its influence in that region.

 

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Apart from the US-Israel hegemony, the SCO/BRICS will stay neutral between the Sunni-Shia feud and will only cooperate with the winner in this game, whether it is Sunni or Shia.

Vow, although that seems a little tricky but that's the smartest thing to do.

 

[xenon54 out]

Once the Shia axis has consolidated their corridor from Iran through Levant, you will see a tremendous change of the geopolitical landscape in the Middle East.

Ok lets put it this way, before the civil war in Syria and Iraq started booth was relatively stable, well Iraq was occupied but there was still a Iran firendly goverment and Iran had influence on booth, now booth are basically destroyed and i dont see an end of the conflict.

Lets say Iran isnt sanctioned anymore, Assad wins the war and Iraq is stable again, what will happen then? Nothing more than the same sutioation as before where Iran has influence on booth but how will it influence other states, im not even talking about ruling.

In the end i dont see a military, economical or political strong enough Iran to have a significant influence on sunni states which makes around 80% of the population in ME.

 

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Ruling over ME you gotta be kidding me, at best Iran has influence over Iraqi Shia goverment and Syria other than that i dont see Iran ruling anything there.



Well, as you know we are done with this ''ruling'' chapter of history a century ago, a couple years ago Turkey had good relations to Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, KSA, and north Africa, basically all ME Nations but Erdogans stupid FP ruined it, i fail to see how NATO should prevent any relation to them.

And what do you mean with Iran more free than Turkey, last time i checked Iran was under International sanctions.

Turkey's biggest problem is lack of ideology !

You are in a wrong direction ... & this wrong direction will end up in disaster !

 

[xenon54 out]

Turkey's biggest problem is lack of ideology !

You are in a wrong direction ... & this wrong direction will end up in disaster !

Our ideology was always not to meddle in ME and care about our own business, this prevented the spillower of conflicts to Turkey till Erdogan had to play the new savior of muslims.

Still i dont see a disaster coming towards us, could you be more specific?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Vow, although that seems a little tricky but that's the smartest thing to do.

This corridor from Iran through Levant is a golden opportunity for Shia to rise on the top since the last thousand years.

Whether it is Israel or Sunni, they both don't like to see that happens and will try to destabilize it at any cost. The proxy war against Syria is definitely part of this plan.

Shia is a minority group who got curbed in the Islam community, they are very united when it comes to defend the Shia unity, and Iran is the absolute leader and brain to lead its little Shia brothers to its survival.

Sunni is much more numerous, but they don't have the strong solidarity like Shia, every Sunni nation wants to become the leader, unlike the Shia groups who only recognizes Iran as their rightful leader.

 

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Ok lets put it this way, before the civil war in Syria and Iraq started booth was relatively stable, well Iraq was occupied but there was still a Iran firendly goverment and Iran had influence on booth, now booth are basically destroyed and i dont see an end of the conflict.
Lets say Iran isnt sanctioned anymore, Assad wins the war and Iraq is stable again, what will happen then? Nothing more than the same sutioation as before where Iran has influence on booth but how will it influence other states, im not even talking about ruling.
In the end i dont see a military, economical or political strong enough Iran to have a significant influence on sunni states which makes around 80% of the population in ME.

Dude, I guess you have misunderstood him completely,
First of all, categorizing people in middle east, we have
Sunni people, Shia people and Turks,
I mean, although you guys are Sunni but you are not referred as Sunni block in middle east analysis.
And secondly he doesn't mean ruling, ruling, you know what I mean? by ruling he means acquiring it's relative respected position. Else, the era of ruling and slavery has long been gone.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Dude, I guess you have misunderstood him completely,
First of all, categorizing people in middle east, we have
Sunni people, Shia people and Turks,
I mean, although you guys are Sunni but you are not referred as Sunni block in middle east analysis.
And secondly he doesn't mean ruling, ruling, you know what I mean? by ruling he means acquiring it's relative respected position. Else, the era of ruling and slavery has long been gone.

Too many major nations wanna become the leader of the Sunni block, Turkey, KSA, Egypt, even Qatar.

This makes the Sunni solidarity too difficult to happen, although they outnumber Shia by far.