Possible Solution of Kashmir issue...Your Opinion

[Army research]

I agree with Waz, my ancestors have died and migrated due to the invasion of the Indian army while the early Pakistan government could not be asked to fight and take the initiative, the majority of the local freedom fighters were locals , fighting in sirinagar nowshera, only later did tribals and army join when the locals cried for help from their Muslim brethren , for the future we need to de millitirzie the entire region, leave only police behind , normalize ties then conduct elections which I'm 90% sure would result in Muslim regions aka Kashmir going to Pakistan and jammu etc going to India, matter solved. Yet by keeping a constant war , arms industries benefit thus this has not been achieved yet and so a future conventional war is a must alas, the victor would inflict a political defeat and make the other surrender on his terms with the latter then breaking up internally , it will be a short And fierce war, with more firepower concentration per soldier than even the fiercest battles of world war 2 , which is alarming considering that all of that damage can be averted by giving freedom of choice to the locals.
Side note , the Muslims of speak Urdu, write in the same script as Pakistanis and have the same dress and culture , personally I don't understand how they are claimed to be integral to india, other Indian Muslims ie Bengal are a different nation and have a different culture, kashmiris like me are similar to Pakistanis too much

 

[Corona]

I agree with Waz, my ancestors have died and migrated due to the invasion of the Indian army while the early Pakistan government could not be asked to fight and take the initiative, the majority of the local freedom fighters were locals , fighting in sirinagar nowshera, only later did tribals and army join when the locals cried for help from their Muslim brethren , for the future we need to de millitirzie the entire region, leave only police behind , normalize ties then conduct elections which I'm 90% sure would result in Muslim regions aka Kashmir going to Pakistan and jammu etc going to India, matter solved. Yet by keeping a constant war , arms industries benefit thus this has not been achieved yet and so a future conventional war is a must alas, the victor would inflict a political defeat and make the other surrender on his terms with the latter then breaking up internally , it will be a short And fierce war, with more firepower concentration per soldier than even the fiercest battles of world war 2 , which is alarming considering that all of that damage can be averted by giving freedom of choice to the locals.
Side note , the Muslims of speak Urdu, write in the same script as Pakistanis and have the same dress and culture , personally I don't understand how they are claimed to be integral to india, other Indian Muslims ie Bengal are a different nation and have a different culture, kashmiris like me are similar to Pakistanis too much

Your post made the most sense as far as de-escalation is concerned but you do know that India will not let a referendum happen under the current climate right? And that too for the exact reasons you pointed out.
Both countries cannot afford to come out looking like the looser and what you suggested, while it might be humanely right leaves India with more to loose. If this is ever gonna be solved, it has to be done in a way both countries win.

 

[fitpOsitive]

If it could've happened, it would've happened by now.

Kashmiris have become unfit to be the part of either country. So, this must happen that way.

 

[Corona]

Kashmiris have become unfit to be the part of either country. So, this must happen that way.

A more realistic scenario is that they will be worn down to compliance.

 

[kaykay]

Practical solution? Just agree on status quo and forget rest( applied for both countries). For any other solution, good luck coz its ain't happening.

 

[ziaulislam]

A more realistic scenario is that they will be worn down to compliance.

Unlikely..this has never happened in history especially when you have hope..more likely situation is status quo and then independence once India becomes a true democracy rather than a fascist state

 

[zip]

Kashmir can't be solved as trilateral issue ..India ,Pakistan should come to an agreement first ..Both countries should make LOC as border ..Then only second part of addressing legitimate concern of Kashmir people who are devided between two countries can start ..There are plenty of possibilities once border issue solved and mutual trust increased.. If this problem left to fester for long it will be loosing situation for all the parties concerned including Kashmiri s ..

 

[Hamza913]

Removal of Pakistani army from Pakistan Occupied Kashmir is the very first condition of UN resolution...
You do it if you want plebiscite..

Do you think we are that stupid?

How about you just hold it anyway?

 

[aman_rai]

Do you think we are that stupid?

How about you just hold it anyway?

This is called trust deficit.
No solution to it

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Kashmiris are protesting more fervently than ever before. With recent blindings, rapes, murders and torture, the Indian army has created another generation or two seeking personal vengeance against India.

India could have very easily de-militarized and allowed Kashmiris equal rights as citizens, but the Indian state has always viewed Kashmiris with hostility.

Pakistan doesn’t have to do anything, just like we haven’t since 1965. Kashmir will fall into our lap due to India’s failing policies in Kashmir.

Modi is proving us right every day. Thank you Quaid e Azam, Allama Iqbal, Syed Ali Shah Geelani saab.

 

[newb3e]

launch every nuke we have on india get rid of ugly fk indians and Kahmirs is free!

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

According to my understanding...(I may be wrong plz correct me )
The whole Kashmir on Pakistani side need to be demilitarized....
And India Pakistan agreed to solve things bilaterally(Shima agreement)

Both India and Pakistan need to arrive at an agreement on demilitarization prior to demilitarization . The reason the UN appointed commissions on demilitarization failed was because India's proposals left a much larger chunk of Indian forces in J&K than proposed by Pakistan and the UN appointed rapporteurs. Pakistan also proposed a simultaneous withdrawal of forces whereas India wanted to leave all her forces in place until all Pakistani forces were withdrawn, which obviously was not going to work given the trust deficit.

 

[Corona]

Unlikely..this has never happened in history especially when you have hope..more likely situation is status quo and then independence once India becomes a true democracy rather than a fascist state

Democracy doesn't mean give every single person a piece of land cause they asked for it and call it a day.
As far as independence is concerned, don't forget, we have the upper hand here when it comes to global perception. If tomorrow, a city in Sweden or UK declares it wants independence, it will get more attention in 1 day than Kashmir has gotten in its entire existence. That's by design and we played our cards right to make it so.

 

[ziaulislam]

Democracy doesn't mean give every single person a piece of land cause they asked for it and call it a day.
As far as independence is concerned, don't forget, we have the upper hand here when it comes to global perception. If tomorrow, a city in Sweden or UK declares it wants independence, it will get more attention in 1 day than Kashmir has gotten in its entire existence. That's by design and we played our cards right to make it so.

Look at great Britain example
Democrasy means rule of law and logic
Logic and law both say India should give what it promised...a choice to choose its fate

Otherwise its fascist govt..100s of people blinded will carry this message for next generation

 

[Corona]

Look at great Britain example
Democrasy means rule of law and logic
Logic and law both say India should give what it promised...a choice to choose its fate

Otherwise its fascist govt..100s of people blinded will carry this message for next generation

Democracy means rule of law and logic but it is defined by the constitution. Not by the whims of any individual or sect. Calling us fascist because we wont give up our territory makes about as much sense as calling someone unkind cause they won't give you their right hand.
Besides, logic doesn't say India should give anything, at least not from this side of the border. Like I said in my earlier posts, the only way this can be resolved is by a win-win scenario for both countries. And simply letting go of Kashmir is not a win in any situation.