Pork or nothing: how school dinners are dividing France

[Butchcassidy]

It could be worse, they could force you to eat Lutefisk:

Oh sure, it looks like any ordinary fish... but it's not:

From:
Norway.

What the hell is it?
Ahhh, Lutefisk. A clean, down-to-earth Scandinavian recipe.

A little too clean.

Lutefisk is a traditional Norwegian dish featuring cod that has been steeped for many days in a solution of lye, until its flesh is caustic enough to dissolve silver cutlery.

Wait, it gets worse ...
For those of you who don't know, lye (potassium hydroxide/sodium hydroxide) is a powerful industrial chemical used for cleaning drains, killing plants, de-budding cow horns, powering batteries and manufacturing biodiesel. Contact with lye can cause chemical burns, permanent scarring, blindness or total deliciousness, depending on whether you pour it onto a herring or your own face. Or, so the lutefisk industry would have us believe.

You get it here in the US, in Minnesota
They had a factory making this horrendous thing near minneapolis.
Dont u folks eat it during lent?

 

[fallstuff]

Did I suggest everybody had or should have? No. So, what is your point. Price and quality are related. I'ld rather not eat cheap meat, because I know in what ways it is produced to make it cheap. But if you insist on a certain quantity, yeah, then price matters. What meats are cheap depends very much on where you are though.

Can't help but recall chicken being cheapest in the US.

Average Retail Food and Energy Prices, U.S. and Midwest Region : Mid–Atlantic Information Office : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
USDA ERS -
Meat Price Spreads
http://www.ers.usda.gov/datafiles/Meat_Price_Spreads/cuts.xls

The topic is about pork being served in France without an alternative, its got nothing to do with you. You went on a tangent in replying to my post by injecting your personal choices.

I made an argument that cost could be a reason behind the decision for the school to serve pork as it is the cheapest meat other than poultry. Poultry is the cheapest type of meat in USA and pretty much all over the world. When we talk about pork we bring up beef, lamb or goat/mutton as comparables as these products are categorized differently than poultry by USDA.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

The topic is about pork being served in France without an alternative, its got nothing to do with you. You went on a tangent in replying to my post by injecting your personal choices.

I made an argument that cost could be a reason behind the decision for the school to serve pork as it is the cheapest meat other than poultry. Poultry is the cheapest type of meat in USA and pretty much all over the world. When we talk about pork we bring up beef, lamb or goat/mutton as comparables as these products are categorized differently than poultry by USDA.

Pork is a significant part of the French culture, so it is natural to serve it also at school.
School restaurants should provide variations, so they will not serve pork everyday anyway.

Immigrants should adopt to their society, not the other way around.
Refusal to give preferential treatment, is not discrimination.

In this case, Muslims need to just avoid the pork and eat the rest, or bring their own food
when pork is served, or just abide by the Qu'ran which says it is OK
to eat pork if that is all that is served.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Why can't they just serve both Pork and Chicken or Beef?

 

[jaunty]

@flamer84 @bobo6661 @Providence @Akheilos

Here is an average of what the kids are given at lunch time . (During one week in a school near Annecy)

Monday

Tuesday

Thursday

Friday

We can agree and say they can easily get ride of the meat (When there is no fish) and eat the rest.


WOW PORK EVERYWHERE!!!!!

Merci!

The moment I saw this thread I knew it has to be BS. No one serves pork exclusively. There are other items too. If you don't eat pork, eat the rest of it- as simple as that.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Why can't they just serve both Pork and Chicken or Beef?

You want that France should provide preferential treatment to muslims?
I don't remember that I got any choice when I had lunch at school.
It was take it or leave it.
And as I say, it is perfectly OK for muslims to eat pork, under the right circumstances.

Maybe You should ask Yourself WHY the general rule for muslims is to not eat pork,
and that is surely because of the dangers to health if the pork is not properly prepared.
You are not damned forever if you eat it, or the Qur'an would not say that it is OK to eat it, if no alternatives are given. You simply risk getting sick and maybe die because of the health hazard of eating pork.
Nowadays, the risk of eating properly prepared pork is close to NIL.

God told the Muslims that Muhammed was the last prophet
he would send, which really means:

- From now on, you have to figure it out Yourselves.

 

[Penguin]

The topic is about pork being served in France without an alternative, its got nothing to do with you. You went on a tangent in replying to my post by injecting your personal choices.

I made an argument that cost could be a reason behind the decision for the school to serve pork as it is the cheapest meat other than poultry. Poultry is the cheapest type of meat in USA and pretty much all over the world. When we talk about pork we bring up beef, lamb or goat/mutton as comparables as these products are categorized differently than poultry by USDA.

In future, if you have rules of discussion for a thread, please spell out clearly in advance.
As a parent, with children that go to school, I can very well state my preferences, can I?

 

[Gabriel92]

Merci!

The moment I saw this thread I knew it has to be BS. No one serves pork exclusively. There are other items too. If you don't eat pork, eat the rest of it- as simple as that.

One of my child eats in school,and they are given Pork only once a week,it's not as if it was everyday.
As always,people make a big debate for almost nothing.

 

[Cherokee]

It is your problem if you don't wanna eat pork not school's . Nor are they forcing you to shovel down pork everyday . bring lunch the day pork is served, why to expect them to make some alternative for you . That's preferential treatment . I as a hindu (agnostic one) won't eat beef . But i won't ask school to serve me alternative . Since the chip is on my shoulder i would bring my own food .

 

[SrNair]

Local culture is "its my choice"

So shouldnt that be respected?

There is a problem in this 'choice making'.
Tommorrow if entire community asked for the same choice there will be demand evolve in there that hurt local people ,majority ,in France .
Those who seek good life in France should follow their custom and tradition .They didnt ask your presence but you chose a French life .
@Gabriel92 posted the picture in there .
There is a plenty of food in there .If you dont want pork just reject it.

 

[Dubious]

if entire community asked for the same choice

What are you talking about?

there will be demand evolve in there that hurt local people ,majority ,in France .

How can it hurt them when it is just following their culture?

Kindly keep your indianess in yourself

Those who seek good life in France should follow their custom and tradition .

Maybe if Moghul and British had told that to india...we wouldnt have hindus, right? - just an example coz I can see indians dont understand something without putting the same in india...

They didnt ask your presence but you chose a French life .

They also didnt ask an indian's opinion

@Gabriel92 posted the picture in there .

Yea and I responded to him so if you saw the pix you saw my reply...your post here serves no purpose!

There is a plenty of food in there .If you dont want pork just reject it.

And if you dont want to read then dont post....I made my post clear now you cherry pick and have comprehension issues isnt my problem!

 

[WaLeEdK2]

You want that France should provide preferential treatment to muslims?
I don't remember that I got any choice when I had lunch at school.
It was take it or leave it.
And as I say, it is perfectly OK for muslims to eat pork, under the right circumstances.

Maybe You should ask Yourself WHY the general rule for muslims is to not eat pork,
and that is surely because of the dangers to health if the pork is not properly prepared.
You are not damned forever if you eat it, or the Qur'an would not say that it is OK to eat it, if no alternatives are given. You simply risk getting sick and maybe die because of the health hazard of eating pork.
Nowadays, the risk of eating properly prepared pork is close to NIL.

God told the Muslims that Muhammed was the last prophet
he would send, which really means:

- From now on, you have to figure it out Yourselves.

I guess so. When they would serve pork at my school I would just bring my own lunch.

 

[SrNair]

What are you talking about?


How can it hurt them when it is just following their culture?

Kindly keep your indianess in yourself


Maybe if Moghul and British had told that to india...we wouldnt have hindus, right? - just an example coz I can see indians dont understand something without putting the same in india...


They also didnt ask an indian's opinion


Yea and I responded to him so if you saw the pix you saw my reply...your post here serves no purpose!


And if you dont want to read then dont post....I made my post clear now you cherry pick and have comprehension issues isnt my problem!

French in here agree with me.So I dont give a shit about your emotiinal rant
.You represents a nation that will protest for any shit happen to any Muslims anywhere in world.'Gaurdians of Muslims' syndrome.Excusively only for Pakistanis.
An European posted this OP because they clearly dont like such stupid third world issues in their nation.
As an Indian I will reply whether you like or not.
Indianess,Indians and Indian passport has its own advantage and respect in this world.If you cant understand then that is not my problem.

 

[Audio]

Waste not want not. The animal has been killed, must use as much of it as possible.

Yes, yes......still gross.

 

[Dubious]

French in here agree with me.So I dont give a shit about your emotiinal rant

Wow...1 French gives you a thanks and everything else is a rant learn the meaning...you are the actual ranter as France has nothing to do with you except your emotional rant!

Let me define the word you so much use yet have no clue you are actually ranting:

1. 1.
   speak or shout at length in an angry, impassioned way.

Since France has nothing to do with you you are the one who is ranting....

Thanks for the joke!

Dont bother quoting me coz the Frenchie and I agreed on 1 thing not my fault if you still want to cherry pick!

Go seek a doctor you are suffering from psychological projection ...Hope get well soon!