Pompeo backs India to ‘deal with’ Pakistan, China

[Isotope]

There are no friends and enemies, only national interests, ours and the US interests overlap for now, no guarantee that will remain unchanged in the future.

A sane comment.

 

[mingle]

One side pompe pushing india against Pak China next side he fighting a trade war with India which not going to cool off anytime Soon.

 

[Dubious]

One side pompe pushing india against Pak China next side he fighting a trade war with India which not going to cool off anytime Soon.

Its called double edged sword

Making India feel useful while reminding it who is calling the shots...
India is also keeping Russia as a backup which America so far doesn't know how to deal with ans hence needs to make India think it is important by giving it an assignment or an order....depends who is reading

 

[GumNaam]

here's india "dealing" with Pakistan. the pompous pompeo would be wise not hold his breath on india . Can't wait to see how india deals with China!

 

[mingle]

Its called double edged sword

Making India feel useful while reminding it who is calling the shots...
India is also keeping Russia as a backup which America so far doesn't know how to deal with ans hence needs to make India think it is important by giving it an assignment or an order....depends who is reading

Trade front india don't have much options they relie on US even for theior Rs stability one little shock will knock theior Rs over 100. Pompe simply giving them options for S400 waiver India had to buy F21 stop buying iranian oil and follow what Americans saying Americans push Modi on tough spot if they can fight trade war with China India is nothing in front of them.

 

[Krptonite]

China and pakistan have always been our enemies and they will remain so this I can absolutely guarantee. And if we let go of this opportunity we will make the same blunder as that bastard pig nehru did by letting go the permanent membership of the UN when it was offered by the US.

Please research on factors as to why a nation like the United States is considered a super power, compare all those parameters with ours and you will find fighting two nuclear armed neighbours is currently not within our capability. War is destruction and only looks pretty appealing when you are selling weapons sitting thousands of miles away on a geographical fortress.

PM Modi is my prime minister, I have to accord him the respect that position entails whether I agree with his policies or not, despite Mr Nehru's shortcomings and blunders (perceived or otherwise) his legacy is the India we have, he helped propagate the system and the constitution that is sacrosanct to this day. Having a historical view as how an entire nation's path can be derailed by the whims of few power hungry men, we were lucky to have a man at the helm who respected democratic traditions.

Where does all this leave Pakistan ?

A developing nation with a strong armed forces and 100+ nukes pointed right at us, so .... Right where they want to be?

Despite their economic woes, those two factors give them a lot of diplomatic maneuvering room

 

[Dalit]

Looks like how a brankrupt nation talks?


Look what delusion had bought to Pakistan today a bankruptcy?


Dont generalize, that is only for Chinese and not for Indians.


Now Pakistan forget the $$ Billions that they got for last decades in gift??


Till he keep listening to Trump, which he is, so i dont see that is happening.


really???

Pakistan did not get billions of dollars as gift. Pakistan was paid reimbursement for various services.

Secondly, our relationship was and still is transactional. Transactional relationships never last and are not binding.

1. Disagree on this point.

WAR on TERROR ring any bells? Shall I create a summary of related developments for you to understand?

Pakistan is a much different society (today) than what it used to be before 2001, terrorism-conscious posture on the whole.

Aqalmand key liyey isharra kaafi hota hai.

2. Fair.

3. BRICS = each is a big player.

Remember FATF?

Even a geopolitically neutral India is a big relief to China. One of the greatest weapons of Anglo-Saxon forces is to facilitate inter-state rivalries.

China-India relations are not at the cost of China-Pakistan relations, and same is true in reverse.

President Xi agreed to visit India upon invitation of PM Modi, doesn't this raise eye-brows?

4. And what good will this bring to Pakistan? Look at Iran.

Pakistan should be on good terms with all major players of the Pakistan.. Grow a thick skin and learn from relatively wiser states.

And jeez, apply breaks on seemingly feeble tough posturing. They understand our limtations very well.

Remember that it is not Pakistan, but the US administration that keeps bringing up tough posturing. These latest remarks were made by Pompeo who is a highly placed American official. They are irresponsible and confirm the ground realities.

The treacherous war on terror is exactly the reason why US Pak relationship fell apart and could not last. A transactional and relationship of convenience.

I agree that Pakistan should remain neutral, but it cannot shut its eyes and ignore that American official policy is to undermine Pakistan. These irresponsible statements keep reminding us that US policy is unfavorable towards Pakistan. Worse yet, they are hostile and problematic.

The US is a weakened superpower, but it also has its limitations. These limitations are visible every day in Afghanistan and elsewhere on the world stage. The US shouldn't bite off more than it can chew.

There are no friends and enemies, only national interests, ours and the US interests overlap for now, no guarantee that will remain unchanged in the future.

There is one vital difference. A treacherous and deceitful relationship is always going to fall like a house of cards unlike a relationship that is based on mutual respect and win win.

 

[Krptonite]

There is one vital difference. A treacherous and deceitful relationship is always going to fall like a house of cards unlike a relationship that is based on mutual respect and win win.

Respectfully I disagree, so long as national interests align they can make the bitterest of rivals into allies and vice versa. It's always economics which prevails in the long run.

 

[The wheel of time]

Please research on factors as to why a nation like the United States is considered a super power, compare all those parameters with ours and you will find fighting two nuclear armed neighbours is currently not within our capability. War is destruction and only looks pretty appealing when you are selling weapons sitting thousands of miles away on a geographical fortress.

PM Modi is my prime minister, I have to accord him the respect that position entails whether I agree with his policies or not, despite Mr Nehru's shortcomings and blunders (perceived or otherwise) his legacy is the India we have, he helped propagate the system and the constitution that is sacrosanct to this day. Having a historical view as how an entire nation's path can be derailed by the whims of few power hungry men, we were lucky to have a man at the helm who respected democratic traditions.

A developing nation with a strong armed forces and 100+ nukes pointed right at us, so .... Right where they want to be?

Despite their economic woes, those two factors give them a lot of diplomatic maneuvering room

Hey fool, your capability comes from your determination. We can reduce both the so called nuclear neighbors to ashes within minutes by our preemptive nuclear strike. Nature doesn't let the timid survive. And India is not a timid nation. I wish that fool Modi let go of his concern for economic development for sometime and solve the issues with pakistan and china by the only way they can be solved; by weapons. And you have to be an absolute fool to think that pakistan is a developing nation. In reality it is an isolated country with a collapsing economy and its situation will definitely worsen in times to come.

They just hit you with trade restrictions, and you are set to put tariffs on them. They are not your friend.

We may have our trade issues but still they are our friends and we both have common enemies i.e. china and pakistan.

 

[waz]

We may have our trade issues but still they are our friends and we both have common enemies i.e. china and pakistan.

Trade is a major thing....
Pakistan is not the enemy of the US.
As for friendships try finding South Vietnam on a map, it also had a common enemy.
But anyway it’s your opinion.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Trade is a major thing....
Pakistan is not the enemy of the US.
As for friendships try finding South Vietnam on a map, it also had a common enemy.
But anyway it’s your opinion.

That is what India and Indian lobby wants American to see, that Pakistan and America are enemies to each other , yeah there are ups and downs , but mostly downs in our relationship with America but we can not afford to make America our open Enemy, and america can not afford to declare us an Open enemy as long as they are in Afghanistan .

 

[The wheel of time]

Trade is a major thing....
Pakistan is not the enemy of the US.
As for friendships try finding South Vietnam on a map, it also had a common enemy.
But anyway it’s your opinion.

Pakistan is definitely the enemy of the US as it has actively helped taliban kill the American troops using their own aid money given to Pakistan.

And as far as south Vietnam is concerned, US could not help them even when she went all the way to the indo-china and lost thousands of their own men fighting the north vietnamese forces, in same way they could not help you during the Bangladesh liberation war even when they tried. History shows us that they have stood by their allies and that should be respected. And look what you have done for them in return, nothing but stabbing them in their back. And please dont tell me that you have lost thousand of your fighting men in the American war on terror, you got them killed not because you really wanted to defeat terrorism but you yourselves got entangled in the jihadi trap that you had created to use against the soviets and then India.

 

[waz]

Pakistan is definitely the enemy of the US as it has actively helped taliban kill the American troops using their own aid money given to Pakistan.

And as far as south Vietnam is concerned, US could not help them even when she went all the way to the indo-china and lost thousands of their own men fighting the north vietnamese forces, in same way they could not help you during the Bangladesh liberation war even when they tried. History shows us that they have stood by their allies and that should be respected. And look what you have done for them in return, nothing but stabbing them in their back. And please dont tell me that you have lost thousand of your fighting men in the American war on terror, you got them killed not because you really wanted to defeat terrorism but you yourselves got entangled in the jihadi trap that you had created to use against the soviets and then India.

Pakistan has not actively helped kill American troops. Yes it has supported the Taliban at its inception and as a party during its rule, but then dropped support after 9/11. You can go on about 'clandestine' help and so called 'support' all you want but that's politics for you, and something which the US has also actively engaged i.e. supporting dubious groups in order to achieve objectives, for example the Contra Rebels.
The US did help S.Vietnam but once losses started to mount and the war became unpopular they left. As for standing by allies yes it did in its early years, as in the Second World War and immediately the post war era, but in the modern era its support has wavered for countries as time has gone on, or come at a cost. The S.Koreans were perturbed at Trump's overtures so decided to make a big for peace themselves, the other example of Japan has them hosting a massive US military presence, something you would balk at. As for Taiwan, even with threats of Chinese invasion the US support has remain muted. The allies they do stand by are closely linked by culture, race and faith e.g. the UK, Canada, Australia and so on. You have Israel as well, due to a large part to the immensely successful Jewish lobby, and the contribution Jewish people have made to the US.
India doesn't come under any of these criteria and headings, and has literally been stamped as a 'counter' to China, a shaky and what many would describe loose link for any alliance. Spare us the whole 'we are the biggest democracy' speech as well, it's about what you can do for them, and their commitment to any conflict that could break out between China v India is questionable, how do you think hey will sell that to their public? They could provide material support but again this is a big IF, and with the odds massively stacked again you v China this could very well end up with an outcome not dissimilar to the what the Vietnam war.

Let's see the latest news;

NEW DELHI: India has decided to raise import tariffs on 29 goods from the US after having deferred retaliatory higher duties multiple times since announcing them in June last year, said people with knowledge of the matter.

India has also taken the US to the World Trade Organization (WTO) dispute settlement mechanism over the imposition of import duties on steel and aluminium.



//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/69796585.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

This must be the beautiful relationship you write about.

 

[Dalit]

Pakistan has not actively helped kill American troops. Yes it has supported the Taliban at its inception and as a party during its rule, but then dropped support after 9/11. You can go on about 'clandestine' help and so called 'support' all you want but that's politics for you, and something which the US has also actively engaged i.e. supporting dubious groups in order to achieve objectives, for example the Contra Rebels.
The US did help S.Vietnam but once losses started to mount and the war became unpopular they left. As for standing by allies yes it did in its early years, as in the Second World War and immediately the post war era, but in the modern era its support has wavered for countries as time has gone on, or come at a cost. The S.Koreans were perturbed at Trump's overtures so decided to make a big for peace themselves, the other example of Japan has them hosting a massive US military presence, something you would balk at. As for Taiwan, even with threats of Chinese invasion the US support has remain muted. The allies they do stand by are closely linked by culture, race and faith e.g. the UK, Canada, Australia and so on. You have Israel as well, due to a large part to the immensely successful Jewish lobby, and the contribution Jewish people have made to the US.
India doesn't come under any of these criteria and headings, and has literally been stamped as a 'counter' to China, a shaky and what many would describe loose link for any alliance. Spare us the whole 'we are the biggest democracy' speech as well, it's about what you can do for them, and their commitment to any conflict that could break out between China v India is questionable, how do you think hey will sell that to their public? They could provide material support but again this is a big IF, and with the odds massively stacked again you v China this could very well end up with an outcome not dissimilar to the what the Vietnam war.

Let's see the latest news;

NEW DELHI: India has decided to raise import tariffs on 29 goods from the US after having deferred retaliatory higher duties multiple times since announcing them in June last year, said people with knowledge of the matter.

India has also taken the US to the World Trade Organization (WTO) dispute settlement mechanism over the imposition of import duties on steel and aluminium.



//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/69796585.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

This must be the beautiful relationship you write about.

US India relationship can be narrowed down to China containment.

 

[Krptonite]

Hey fool, your capability comes from your determination. We can reduce both the so called nuclear neighbors to ashes within minutes by our preemptive nuclear strike. Nature doesn't let the timid survive. And India is not a timid nation. I wish that fool Modi let go of his concern for economic development for sometime and solve the issues with pakistan and china by the only way they can be solved; by weapons. And you have to be an absolute fool to think that pakistan is a developing nation. In reality it is an isolated country with a collapsing economy and its situation will definitely worsen in times to come.



We may have our trade issues but still they are our friends and we both have common enemies i.e. china and pakistan.

I'm just curious, have you served the foreign office in any capacity?

Have you served in any government branch in any capacity?

Have you served the armed forces in any capacity? Because funnily enough only civilians use adjectives like 'courage, determination, guts etc ' when refering to war, military personnel tend to think in terms of logistics, achievability and efficiency...

you know, real life concepts.