Policeman martyred, dozens injured in Islamabad clashes; Army called

[Shane]

actually i used the opportunity to make a complete statement. nothing related to your post ofcourse.

Thanx.

Further on the point I was making in my post...

Rooting out corruption from the top is so vital in our scenario. A leadership that looks beyond doing development work just in areas of its personal business gains and think about improving education and better future of coming generations.

What will even our semi literate populace do but (hypothetically) shine shoes of chinese entrepreneurs creating CPEC opportunities and gains for themselves? Commute on orange line and metros to get to their low paid jobs if they are lucky enough to get one.

Quality Education is the key to the future and everyone knows it. Why is it at the bottom of the list of our corrupt elite and only used for photo ops is because how else would they win seats if the voter is wise enough to know the game being played with them in exchange for a plate of biryani or paratha.

 

[VCheng]

Some people today think the France of Louis XIV was the height of French culture and power. And it was - until the King got greedy for glory and power. The result was needless wars and incredible impoverishment, to the point of starvation and death. All tolerated because so many supported the institutions of monarchy for so long.

Well, Pakistan is not France, and its people might think that their nation is heading towards its destiny of creation, and it is their right to believe so.

 

[Shane]

Not a bit:

Lynching of a State from within
A society busy in self destruction does not need any external threat or enemy to diminish it
7:28 PM, November 27, 2017

Imad Zafar

Finally the Faizabad sit-in has been called off by the religious clerics after reaching a deal with the Government. The power military elite played a role in this and convinced the Government to ‘sacrifice’ Zahid Hamid . The law minister has resigned and the religious fanatics emerged as the victor.

The government’s effort to disperse the protestors resulted in riots and protests across the country with religious fanatics occupying the major cities’ roads and burning and damaging public properties. Even now the situation is uncertain. The roads of Rawalpindi and Islamabad have been seized by the men equipped with sticks and stones.

The religious fanatics are enjoying the support of a large section of the masses as the card of religion is being played cleverly by them. In Faizabad the main headquarters of the sit-in, a religious cleric Khadim Rizvi is virtually threatening to take the government down. The ministers and lawmakers from the ruling party are all hiding fearing attacks on them by the angry mob. And they rightly fear this, as the law minister and ex interior minister’s homes were set on fire by the mob.

The government has virtually lost control of the situation and adding to the problem is the Army’s response that has cleverly tilted the situation in favor of religious fanatics. A tweet from DG ISPR, at a crucial time, stated that the Army chief called the prime minister and told him not to use force against the religious fanatics, in fact the tweet stated that both sides should resolve the matter peacefully. The timing and tone of this message has actually damaged the government’s position.

First the faction of religious fanatics is being declared a stakeholder and then the State is being told that the Army will only protect buildings and will not disperse the mob. At a time when police were fighting on the front line against these fanatics the powerful military chose to just sit and watch the show. When the police were busy fighting with the religious terrorists and putting their lives at stake our mighty establishment was watching this whole show and did not come to help the government to disperse the fanatics.

Every sane individual knows who was supporting the sit-in at Faizabad since the beginning; the use of proxies to get the desired result has actually brought us to a position where the whole world makes a mockery of us. First Bhutto was toppled by using the same proxy of religious clerics and by launching the famous PNA movement ultimately resulting in Bhutto’s ouster and hanging. But the cost we paid as a State and society for that adventure was too high. The religious clerics brought the culture of jihad and hatred for other sects and minorities in the country resulting in the deadliest bloodshed in the early and late 90s in the name of sects and religion.

On the other hand people like Hafiz Saeed , Mullah Fazlullah and Omar Khalid Khorasani and many mullahs were patronized and perceived as strategic assets to counter enemies, but they actually became Frankensteins and started killing the creators. Now history is being repeated again, a similar PNA type movement is being launched by playing the blasphemy card and new strategic assets like Khadim Rizvi are being launched. Sadly, the authority that controls and dictates the religious and defence narratives of the State is not willing to learn from past mistakes. It is also not willing to understand the simple point that the world is being ruled by logic and knowledge, not by weapons and religious beliefs.

In order to control and manipulate the State narratives the mighty establishment has actually weakened the State itself by going against the basic ideologies of the founding father of the nation. The alliance of the establishment and mullahs has actually given birth to the millions of extremists and they are virtually ticking time bombs, it only being a matter of time before they explode and take everything down with them. We have seen it in the past, almost 70,000 people dead in a decade being the result of this extreme mindset and if we are still not ready to quit the habit of nurturing religious fanatics then we will surely see many more dead.

It is not the government that is losing, it is acutely the State that is weakening. The fanatics, armed with sticks and stones and burning public property, are portraying an image of a failed State and society to the world. Using religion for the gain of authority or to counter the enemy has actually buried the concept of a ‘social state’ and resulted in a State that is only hallucinated with countering conspiracies and threats which are actually not there in reality. After all, a society busy in self destruction does not need any external threat or enemy to diminish it.

On the other hand, as an individual and as a society we have become the same drug addict who finds satisfaction by getting himself bitten by the snake. We worship the pirs, the mullahs and other fanatics despite knowing that these religious clerics are the snakes and they have always bitten us. From Maulana Abdul Aziz to Omar Khorasani and from Maulvi Fazulullah to Malik Ishaq; they all only killed the ones among us, not the so called enemies. I am sure the majority of people in our country have not read the amendments of the controversial bill that actually resulted in the riots, otherwise, they would have easily understood that there was nothing in the bill or amendment that can be termed blasphemous. But since we love to live in ignorance and find hatred to be the only way of catharsis, it really does not matter.

Coming back to the sit-in, the incumbent government has actually lost authority and was unable to establish its authority on the mobs of religious fanatics. This means that the fight for authority and power is over and the mighty establishment has successfully put the final nail in the coffin of Sharif’s politics and his party. Sharif has surely now lost his stronghold of Punjab as the riots are spreading there and it will be the miracle of the century if Sharif survives this onslaught and escapes the same fate Bhutto’s.

A victory finally for the establishment but this victory has come at a very high price. The social fabric and structure of the State is being destroyed in this fight. The trend of mob justice is being set and very soon the establishment will understand that this trend will not even spare them. The State is paralyzed and the whole world is watching a nuclear State held hostage to the religious fanatics whose only motive in life is to kill others in the name of religion and blasphemy . From now on, to survive in the country, common citizens will need certificates of patriotism and faith from the patriotic and religious authorities. The fanatics will decide who is a culprit and who is a holy man.

The almighty establishment, in an effort to undermine the sitting government and Nawaz Sharif’s party, has actually undermined the State of Pakistan. Sharif has certainly gone but with him also the writ of the State. Unfortunately, this ugly blasphemy card has not only weakened Sharif’s party but also undermined the State. We all, as always, stood silently and watched another lynching like Mashal Khan’s. But this time, we were all witnessing the lynching of our generations to come. It was a lynching of a State by the State within.

A political analysis of state surrender
A guy, who has never been to a university, believes in his capacity to 'Islamise' science and perhaps to 'Pakistanise' the social science
7:04 PM, November 28, 2017

Farah Adeed

Pakistan agreed to accept ‘all demands’ of the protesters. The protesters, then, announced their great victory and ended 22-days long Islamabad sit-in.

There was a wave of change in Pakistan . Imran Khan and his PTI were claiming to be the champions of the change. But hopes, dreams and little expectations have been white washed by the mob in Faizabad.

From a failed merger of MQM-P and PSP to this Dharna in the capital things have, it seems so obvious, the same origin and the same ‘planner’. But the failure of the merger and the end of Dharna does not mean the end of intervention of ‘hidden hand’ in Pakistan’s politics. It means quite otherwise.

At a broader level, it goes beyond. It does not only establish a link between the ‘hidden-hand’ and politics of the country. Now it has generated a heated debate about the meaning and scope of democracy in Pakistan .

Pakistan is an interesting country where semi-educated, self-declared scholars offer nothing substantial but only convoluted explanations based upon subjectively determined comparisons between the East and the West in order to justify gender inequalities and an illiberal, or to be more accurate, a confused democracy in Pakistan .

A wrongful practice of democratic theory in the United States or a rape of a girl in Germany do not justify the mob violence or public molestation of a girl in Pakistan . We need to have some objective standards rather than completely relying on others for our actions. A reactionary society is always suggested to have some serious self-introspection to identify as to what went wrong, and how to bring socio-political settings back to normal?

The gathering of people at the funeral of an assassin or some cases of mob violence in the country does not demonstrate the embodiment of the idea of western popular democracy. It can be either of the military’s or the mosque’s democracy, but not a genuine democracy.

Democracy is a philosophy, a theory and a system of governance which is a mean to an end, not an end itself. Moreover, it is, unlike religious beliefs, an evolutionary phenomenon which evolves and transforms for being real, accommodative and supportive. The end of transformation in a democracy sullies the sheen of the very idea of democratic outlook of a culture.

A mob is different from a peaceful demonstration, so are its demands and means of communication. A mob generally comes in to force the government to pay attention to their demands and respond to them accordingly. Politically speaking, when the leaders of smaller groups make sense while remaining within the existing constitutional and political settings it is hard for them to gain attention and secure political support then they tend to challenge the status quo. A genuinely Machiavellian politics comes at play and several extra-constitutional means are chosen to achieve vested political interests.

Therefore, a group of five or six thousand people represents the entire community and as per democratic norms their demands should be addressed as technically indigestible. There is a process to convey people’s demands, to fashion legislation and, above all, fundamental rights are constitutionally protected. A violent minority does not have any right to dictate a government elected by a vast majority or to deprive the lay-public of their fundamental rights.

Pakistan was on a correct path. An image of a moderate, peaceful Pakistan was being established across the globe. But we went even behind India where BJP is ruining the country’s hard-earned secular outlook. In Pakistan , as the state has surrendered the civil society remained shocked, the judiciary was upset and the youth is still not sure as to what has happened?

Things are quite clear now: who rules in Pakistan ? Who controls religious fanatics? What happens whenever a civilian government dares to go against the interests of the ‘hidden-hand’? What is the significance and standing of a civilian government in Pakistan ? What is the role of political opposition? What is the future of a ‘moderate-like’ Pakistan ?

A precedent has been set. The government has maintained it. The ‘hidden-hand’ ensured its continuity. The religious elite assured us to avail it whenever they want to.

Next step is going to be a radical change in the curriculum with the consultation of an under-matric Hafiz-e-Quran. A guy, who has never been to a university, believes in his capacity to 'Islamise' science and perhaps to 'Pakistanise' the social science.

This is an awkward moment in the history of Pakistan . It is not just about the ‘hidden-hand’ and PML-N . Everyone in Pakistan will have to pay heavy price for this unconditional surrender of the state before an extremist group.

So what? Pakistan is a deeply, hugely, immensely patient nation that can easily bear such a burden.

[Every sane individual knows who was supporting the sit-in at Faizabad since the beginning; the use of proxies to get the desired result has actually brought us to a position where the whole world makes a mockery of us]

Just the above lines are enough to understand the fundamental flaw and mental squint of the fashionably Anti establishment lot.

Who negotiated with the dharna organizers before they were given free hand to go to Islamabad for the dharna? The very Punjab Government of Shahbaz Sharif their own spokesman was admitting being in talks with fourth scheduler Molvi Khadim Hussain before he left Lahore only he added that we didn't sent them or asked them to go but were trying to stop them from going through negotiations

Have you heard what Zaeem Qadri has said about Molvi khadim Hussain being his beloved leader...

This was Pmln vs Pmln at best if not a double game to present these molvis for slaughter to malign the very Army you guys love to blame and start riots to claim political victimization by Nawaz...

Oh my God @Realistic Change , we know the lot but still it is so amusing to come across this stale Anti Army narrative being sold by Nawaz and eagerly bought and supported by intellectually challenged pseudo-liberals

 

[Solomon2]

[Every sane individual knows who was supporting the sit-in at Faizabad since the beginning; the use of proxies to get the desired result has actually brought us to a position where the whole world makes a mockery of us]

Just the above lines are enough to understand the fundamental flaw and mental squint of the fashionably Anti establishment lot.

You'll have to counter the arguments, not raise questions, in order to be credible.

 

[Shane]

The latest feather in Pmln Government hat. They are shamelessly getting exposed after playing their double game and now down to asking forgiveness just to save their behind:

You'll have to counter the arguments, not raise questions, in order to be credible.

As if you have raised any arguments yourself...

Go back a few pages and read my posts, then come back and argue on the merits of your own with proofs.

 

[pak-marine]

psychopaths .. this barlevi / qadri limited now needs fauji chittrol ..aidi pan di siri !!

 

[Shane]

You'll have to counter the arguments, not raise questions, in order to be credible.

As if the above video is not enough for the very article you quoted in your post to be proved wrong in those very words: [Every sane individual knows who was supporting the sit-in at Faizabad since the beginning]
I claim sanity! That proves the writer what?
What to say about the somersaults of Punjab Government spokesman?
A case of foot in mouth for the pseudo-liberal anti Army lobby!

I'm showing you literally a smoking gun. I'm sure that the lot whose IQ has been challenged by same old tactics of playing the victims card by an utter back stabbing political imbecile as Nawaz, will find another way to fashionably blame the Army any how.

It is obvious that this debacle was designed as a diversion and prolonged to malign the judiciary to blame it for ordering action against dharna and blaming and maligning the Army if it had taken military action instead of what it wisely did, negotiated an end and stopped violence from spreading all over the country.

The government officials are themselves getting exposed with their every effort to give excuses of their double crossing game.

Makaru wa makar Allah, inAllaha khairul Makireen!

 

[pak-marine]

An overview of the crisis that forced the government to capitulate

As daily life in Islamabad limps back to normalcy after being disrupted for 20 days by protesters, Dawn.com looks back on the chain of events that ended with the government surrendering unequivocally to the protesters' demands.

In broad strokes
The protesters, who belonged to religious parties like the Tehreek Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY), the Tehreek-i-Khatm-i-Nabuwwat, and the Sunni Tehreek Pakistan (ST), had occupied the Faizabad Interchange, which connects Rawalpindi and Islamabad through the Islamabad Expressway and Murree Road, both of which are the busiest roads in the twin cities.

The agitators believed that during the passage of Elections Act 2017, the Khatm-i-Nabuwwat oath was deliberately modified as part of a larger conspiracy.

The amendment to the oath was deemed a 'clerical error' by the government and was subsequently rectified through an Act of Parliament.

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Nonetheless, the protesters had been insistent on the resignation of Zahid Hamid, the erstwhile law minister, for his alleged role in the controversy. There is no proof yet that indicates Hamid was responsible for the amendment. A committee headed by Raja Zafarul Haq had probed the issue and released a report on the matter which has not yet been made public.

The Islamabad High Court, the Supreme Court and the heads of various religious parties had repeatedly called on the protesters to disband, calling the protest unlawful as a ban had been imposed on public gatherings in the city and urging the agitators to use the Democracy and Speech Corner at Islamabad's Parade Ground, which has been reserved for such gatherings.

The IHC finally ordered the district administration to evict the protesters from the Faizabad Interchange using "any means necessary".

The government initiated several rounds of negotiations with the protesters after the order was issued, but failed each time, and the IHC subsequently warned Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal of being charged with contempt of court for not complying with the court's orders.

The IHC on Friday observed that the protest's leaders had, prima facie, committed an 'act of terror' by continuing their protest despite the court's orders and criticised the government for failing to take meaningful action against them.

A final deadline given to protesters by the government — 7am on Saturday, Nov 25 — also lapsed without any let-up in the sit-in.

As the government launched an operation to disperse the protesters, at least six people were killed and scores others injured. After a botched operation, the government decided to call in the army for help.

When the army refused, the government turned towards negotiations with the protesters once more and then accepted a number of their demands in return for ending the protest.

A timeline of how the crisis unfolded
October 02: It all began when the government hastily bulldozed the amended Election Bill 2017 through the National Assembly ─ despite strong protests from opposition lawmakers ─ paving the way for ousted premier Nawaz Sharif (who was removed as PML-N head after being disqualified) ─ to head his political party once again by means of a controversial amendment that allowed politicians disqualified from holding public office to head a political party.

In the same bill, the words "I solemnly swear" were replaced with "I believe" in a clause relating to a candidate's belief in the finality of the prophethood of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) ─ the Khatm-i-Nabuwwat oath.

October 04: Then law minister Zahid Hamid vociferously defended the Elections Act 2017, saying that it was meant to neither benefit ousted prime minister Nawaz Sharif, nor repeal the Khatm-i-Nabuwwat laws.

"The bill was proposed in 2014, well before Panamagate surfaced. There is no question of it being passed to benefit one man (Nawaz Sharif)," the law minister had told the National Assembly at the time.

The same day, National Assembly Speaker Ayaz Sadiq had, however, accepted that a "clerical error"was responsible for the change in the Khatm-i-Nabuwwat oath. The speaker met with parliamentary leaders, and all political parties agreed to revert to the original declaration.

October 05: The NA passed the Election Reforms Amendment Bill 2017, tabled by the law minister, which amended the Elections Act 2017 to restore the Khatm-i-Naboowat oath to its original form.

October 30: The Islamabad administration warned organisers and activists of the Tehreek-i-Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah International to immediately vacate Jinnah Avenue where they were staging a sit in protesting the Khatm-i-Naboowatoath and served them a notice in this regard as well. The notice asked them to move to Parade Ground or face arrests and legal action.

Capital administration officials had said at the time that police were able to resolve the issue and that a few of the protesters had been picked up and taken to various police stations for further legal action.

November 5: The capital administration warned TLY and ST against taking any rally to Islamabad, saying a ban on public gatherings had already been imposed in the city.

The parties were also informed that Parade Ground had been reserved for such gatherings and holding a rally somewhere else in the capital would be unlawful. Besides, the organisers had not sought any permission for the rally or the sit-in.

November 6*: The Islamabad police sought a grant of over Rs70 million to maintain peace ahead of the arrival of the religious parties’ rally which set out from Lahore a day before.

November 8: The protesters blocked the Faizabad Interchange, which connects Islamabad with Rawalpindi. Since then, the Metro service between the two cities has also been halted. According to the Metro Bus Authority, more than 100,000 people used the service to travel between the twin cities daily.

November 9: Islamabad police registered a First Investigation Report (FIR) against TLY leader Khadim Hussain Rizvi in a case pertaining to the death of an infant. The infant's family had not been able to reach the Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences (Pims) because of roadblocks put in place due to the joint rally of the TLY and ST.

Police had registered an FIR against Rizvi and other participants of the protest under Section 322 of the Pakistan Penal Code, which deals with qatl-bis-sabab (unintentional murder).

November 10: Islamabad police lodged two more cases against Khadim Hussain Rizvi. Pir Aijaz Afzal and other leaders and participants of the Islamabad sit-in were also nominated in the two FIRs.

One case was registered by a private TV channel regarding alleged violence against its crew, including attacking, torture and threatening of a media team, vandalism of their vehicles and snatching of their cameras.

A second case was lodged on the complaint of a magistrate for violation of Section 144 by the protesters, along with other charges.

November 11: The leaders of the religious parties staging a sit-in outside the capital threatened to attack the families of federal ministers if their demands were not met.

The threats were made in the Friday sermon delivered by Almi Tanzeem Ahle Sunnat leader Pir Afzal Qadri.

November 12: Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal said the government would use all possible means to persuade the religious groups holding a sit-in at Faizabad to shift to the Parade Ground or any other place.

"Otherwise we will have no option but to go for the administrative solution as the government cannot allow any group to restrict the fundamental rights of the citizens. However, the protesters want a dead body or ‘shaheed’ [martyr] to achieve their goal," he had said while talking to Dawn.

November 14: IHC Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui, while hearing a petition filed by a Tehreek-i-Khatm-i-Nabuwwat supporter, ordered the government to reverse in the Elections Act 2017 all amendments in sections pertaining to the Khatm-i-Nabuwwat oath.

The same day, at least five police officials were assaulted by TLY protesters. The beefing up of police, Frontier Constabulary and Punjab Constabulary around the sit-in areas such as Islamabad Highway near Faizabad, Sector I-8 and 9th Avenue had reportedly made the protesters nervous, leading to clashes with security officials.

November 15: The protesting clerics petitioned the IHC for "execution" of their demands, calling for the release of the Raja Zafarul Haq report investigating who was responsible for the changes to the Khatm-i-Nabuwwat oath, and action against the culprits.

November 16: The IHC, while hearing a TLY petition, directed the religious party to call off its sit-in.

Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui directed the protesting clerics to immediately vacate the Faizabad Interchange and show respect for the law.

November 17: The IHC ordered the Islamabad administration to evict protesters from the Interchange using "any means necessary" within 24 hours.

After the court's orders, the government issued "a last warning" to the protest's organisers, asking them to peacefully vacate the venue by 10pm on Friday night or face action.

The district administration, meanwhile, was ordered to take all necessary steps to clear the sit-in by the next morning. All hospitals in the city were ordered to cancel doctors and paramedical staff's leaves and ask them to be present on duty till further instructions.

One thousand personnel were requested from the Punjab Rangers "to perform duty along with police".

The first deadline to vacate the area lapsed without any action on the part of the protesters.

November 18: On Saturday morning, a heavy contingent of Islamabad Police, Frontier Corps and Rangers personnel ─ equipped with tear gas and shell guns ─ arrived at the Faizabad Interchange.

Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal requested the IHC to allow the government to resolve the matter peacefully through dialogue, and ordered the district administration to defer the operation by 24 hours as a ministerial-level government team held marathon meetings with protest leaders.

Religious scholar and Chairman of the Ruet-i-Hilal Committee Mufti Muneebur Rehman urged both the government and protesters to find a solution to the issue "as a prolonged protest could turn into a major crisis for both sides." However, the appeals of Rehman and several other leaders went unheeded.

Meanwhile, the interior minister expressed hope that the face-off between religious activists and security personnel at Faizabad Interchange would end within a day. It did not.

November 20: The government scrambled to secure the support of religious leaders and ulema from across the political spectrum in a bid to negotiate a peaceful end to the sit-in.

However, a meeting between representatives of the protesters and government ministers held at Punjab House was unable to make any breakthrough.

November 21: The Supreme Court took suo motu notice of the sit-in, asking the government to explain what steps have been taken to protect public's basic rights, while mentioning that Article 15 of the Constitution allows freedom of movement to the public.

November 22: The Pakistan Army’s spokesperson said the [military would abide by whatever decision the government took22 on the matter ─ although it would be preferable to address the situation through peaceful means.

Saying that the civil and military leaderships were on the same page when it came to the country’s security, he said that the army was duty-bound to carry out the government’s instructions.

November 23: The head of a committee tasked by the government to come up with an amicable solution to the lingering sit-in submitted his recommendations to the concerned authorities.

Sources said that the committee had offered the government the same suggestions that had already been presented by the government to leaders of TLY. The government had offered to change the portfolio of the law minister, or send him on leave. However, both suggestions were turned down by the sit-in’s leaders.

According to sources, the committee had stated that the law minster should be considered innocent until proven guilty.

All sides would accept the report of a Raja Zafarul Haq-led committee probing the matter and that further action would be taken once the report’s findings and recommendations are finalised, the committee suggested.

November 24: The IHC issued a show-cause notice for contempt of court to Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal over his failure to end the sit-in.

Islamabad's district administration subsequently issued another "final warning" to protesters.

Acting on the administration's orders, and after sharp criticism from the Supreme Court, law enforcers deployed around the sit-in confiscated food meant for the participants of the sit-in.

Lights around the venue were turned off before the crackdown.

A final deadline issued to the protesters to disperse by 7am on Saturday went ignored.

November 25: A day-long operation was launched by the Islamabad police, with the help of FC personnel and other LEAs.

As the operation was underway, the Army's spokesperson issued a statement quoting the army chief asking the prime minister to "handle the Islamabad dharna peacefully" and "avoiding violence from both sides as it is not in national interest".

As many as six people were killed and hundreds wounded during the operation, which failed to clear protesters from the Faizabad Interchange.

Soon after the operation in the twin cities began, the agitation spilled over to several other cities, where protesters chanted anti-government slogans and blocked major roads. In many areas, protesters attacked LEAs and damaged public property.

The Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (Pemra) took a number of private news channels off-air and the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) also blocked social media websites in select parts of the country.

By the end of the day, security agencies were on the back foot as more protesters poured into the city. Meanwhile, the protesters regained their hold on Faizabad.

Subsequently, the administration requested army deployment in the capital to cope with the agitators.

Explore: How Faizabad became Waterloo for security personnel on Saturday

November 26: By late Sunday morning, the army had not deployed to the capital. However, the army had 'agreed' to the request, but put forth a series of issues that must be deliberated prior to deployment.

According to military sources, a high-level meeting was held in which Chief of Army Staff Gen Qamar Bajwa told Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi that he opposed the army's use of force against its own people since the population's trust in the institution of the army "can't be compromised for little gains".

The civil and military leadership in the meeting decided to engage with influential protest leaders, saying that the use of force against protesters had been discouraged in favour of a political settlement.

The federal government then called in the Punjab Rangers to lead civilian law-enforcement agencieshandling the sit-in.

November 27: The government gave in to the demands of the protesters after a 20-day-long sit-in, and Zahid Hamid resigned as law minister.

Read the full text of TLY chief Khadim Rizvi’s demands in return for ending the protest here.

The document of the agreement bears the signatures of Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal, Interior Secretary Arshad Mirza, Tehreek Labaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) leader Khadim Hussain Rizvi, two other protest leaders and Maj Gen Faiz Hameed, who facilitated the agreement.

"We are thankful to him [Gen Bajwa] for saving the nation from a big catastrophe," the agreement document concludes, crediting the army chief and his representative team for their "special efforts".

TLY leader Khadim Hussain Rizvi while addressing a press conference at the protest site ordered his followers all over the country to end the sit-ins and go home.

The protesters at Faizabad started packing up their belongings and police started removing containers placed around the protest site around 8am.

The IHC lashed out at the government as well as the Army for the role assigned to the military "as the mediator" in the agreement with the protesting parties to end the sit-in.

 

[Shane]

After the Army peacefully negotiated an end to dharna, I posted that soon all those in pmln, who tow the narrative of Nawaz, will start blaming Army.

The snakes that they are...they will but bite the very hand that came to the aid of their own government and people.

That's why I wrote that Army knowingly came to the aid of a remote controlled suicidal government. Pmln vs pmln...or a double cross with its own constituents...

MakafateAmal @Farah Sohail , whatever they plan, turns on them, this was probably their last chance and it proved that they can go to any length, raise the stakes against the state and even plan to present anyone for slaughter to find a way to save their hide. Do watch the videos posted earlier.

 

[RescueRanger]

@The Eagle good evening, please could you kindly do the needful in this thread. Much Obliged sir!

 

[RescueRanger]

he usually deflects or misdirects....uses the Same technique in his posts...LOLZ

he justs raises another question with tons of emojis....in hopes to devolve a logical debate into a shit throw contest...which they seem to have specialized in.

watch how every time someone makes a valid point...they quickly turn to ..

* talking about religion
* talk about how evil modi is
* gujrata riots and kashmir.

What amazes me is that....do people do this consciously or they are just been trained to react this way ??

is it common for Islamic nations to do that ??? i have been noticing a similar trend with turkey too.

You have made your point on post 2366, please kindly discuss the issue and not comments made by individual members. Any issues with remarks made by any member should be discussed via P.M or raised with Moderators!
@The Eagle

 

[Farah Sohail]

MakafateAmal @Farah Sohail , whatever they plan, turns on them, this was probably their last chance and it proved that they can go to any length, raise the stakes against the state and even plan to present anyone for slaughter to find a way to save their hide. Do watch the videos posted earlier.

@bold koi shak? Was there any doubt abt it ever tht they can go to any length against the state?

Regd Makafaat e amal.. u must have read Justice Shaukat Siddiquis remarks toeing PML N line yesterday...and did u follow hudaibya case hearing in SC today? I have shared an article regd hudaibya case hearing in SC today in panama thread

 

[Shane]

i dont care if ye drag india into this....go ahead......knock yer self out ..and no matter how many emojis you use....it wont change reality...... hehe

Oh they will have her head for sure....def......EVEN kill that actress like they did to
Quindel baloch.....OHh yeah....hindus are very evil...lolz...oh and i dont think you know how Bollywood works to promote a film

so naive . who do you think is going to watch her movies in the future ?? lolz pakistanis ??? ...with what money ??? ....where do you think she can run to ???? Canada like all pakistani generals ?

MONey rules the world...and pakistan is considered as that annoying beggar who keeps following you even after you shoo them off ...

ever been in the US congress halls ??? Come and visit if you ever get a visa.......you will see the
TRUE REALITY of PAKISTAN

Once the army makes it an official coup with hafiz sayeed party..or a direct coup.....to cling onto power.....
Expect the last nail on the coffin of pakistan.

and the irony is.......you guys keep shooting yourself in the foot on regular intervals....others dont even have to do anything...but eat popcorn

I rest my case troll, your very words are enough to prove your motives...try and contribute something positive or bugger off.

@bold koi shak? Was there any doubt abt it ever tht they can go to any length against the state?

Regd Makafaat e amal.. u must have read Justice Shaukat Siddiquis remarks toeing PML N line yesterday...and did u follow hudaibya case hearing in SC today? I have shared an article regd hudaibya case hearing in SC today in panama thread

Thank you for the reply, haven't yet,will surely check it out.

 

[El Sidd]

Someone needs to explain me the following points.

A) if the law ministers resignation be treated as an apology. What legal cases he faces from the state?

B) why is the law minister the only problem? The whole of parliament and senate passed it on. Why is no one asking for resignation or those in the government not rendering their resignation.

C) why is hypocrisy only a mullah monopoly just like terrorism? Don't we believe in economic terrorism?

This saga has left more questions unanswered than a tinto brass movie.

Now politics will be done based on sectarian divide than policy making of development?

Why under operation Raddul Fassad sectarianism is being tolerated on government level? The state does not recognise your damn sects you fools.

Any takers???

 

[Shane]

@RescueRanger thank you for your post earlier regarding not replying to the indian trolls in kind... Hopefully the needful will be done by moderators and thread is cleaned of off topic stuff.