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Army and GOP has accommodate these social and economic hijackers in the name of Islam. Time after time we see religious extremism in Pakistan. It's shocking to read when army speculate a chance of civil war if this dharna issue is not resolved. Are we talking about banana republic ....
 
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Govt should have let this dharna prolong . So, people should feel the pain and start hatting more this social and economic hijackers. They should do the protest in designated area , not blocking roads and making public life miserable .

I hate the mullahs too my man. But please try to understand the situation.
 
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Sit in at Faizabad Interchange continue to paralyse twin cities and make life miserable for thousands of commuters

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The rally drew criticism from residents and rights activists when an infant died Thursday on the way to a hospital due to the road blockades in Islamabad. Police say they have charged the rally’s organizer, Rizvi, with manslaughter following complaints from the child’s parents who claim his life could have been saved had they reached the hospital in time. "
https://tns.world/sit-in-at-faizaba...ke-life-miserable-for-thousands-of-commuters/

Kidnapped police officials found by roadside in Rawalpindi with marks of torture
https://www.dawn.com/news/1373314/k...-roadside-in-rawalpindi-with-marks-of-torture

I hate the mullahs too my man. But please try to understand the situation.
I am not against protest, this is democratic right. But , right place at right time. People should know they are protesting for " rahmat ul lil alameen " . Not for any mullah or political leader. But, jahiliat at its peak.
 
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This time younger and elder Sharif crossed every limit of playing Good and Bad Cop - both were present in every damn meeting at 1700 acres Jati Umra Palace built through Tax Payers money.

Younger Sharif’s stance: Dharna is fundamental right and for just cause, and I and Punjab Govt completely supports it.

Elder Sharif’s stance: Dharna is an excuse of/by Army to demean my party’s Govt and I and Federal Govt completely opposes it.

Disciples of both Sharifs; Claps in unison and chants Dekho Dekho Sher Aaya rhythmically.......then slows down ......and starts chanting Haq Haq (who knows ....remembering perhaps the guy from where these eg*s were fertilized aka Nawaz & Shahbaz).

And as you can see several posters here want to believe both stories as true depending on which constituency they want to appease at that very moment.

Afreen hai unh pey who have guts to defend these dimwits; openly or tacitly!

I hate the mullahs too my man. But please try to understand the situation.

Adding to the post of @Realistic Change and about understanding the situation...

Pmln is now trying to somehow up-ease it's own people and general constituents some of who had been protesting in dharnas and pmln leadership is finding excuses to hide behind for the deceitful and cunning plan of its Jati Umrah leadership that thankfully still went awry...

There is no secret that most of these very people have been voters of Pmln in the past but got alienated due to upeasing the west policies of Nawaz Sharif that turned these very leaders against him. Also keep in mind that It is no secret that Nawaz Sharif was not happy with their stand against Kulsoom Nawaz in NA120, however Shahbaz Sharif was against alienating the same any further.

The thing to comprehend is that how this dharna was given a open hand to let it be organized and allowed to leave for Islamabad back then from Lahore and Faisalabad. How it got safe passage throughout its route, allowed to reach Faizabad interchange and linger on (according to plan so far) instead of a timely resolution, is no secret anymore nor the fact that it was planned to be used as a diversion by playing on both sides, for and against, respectively, behind the scenes and openly (the plan initially went on successfully). We already know how much esteem Molvi Khadim Hussain holds among second tier leadership of Pmln.

It is in plain sight now that if the complete Jati Umrah plan had worked as was hoped (but failed) then Nawaz & co would have managed to malign(plan failed) both the Judiciary and the Army by pitching them against each other (plan failed) as well as the religiously charged protesters (plan failed) while the general public mood also did not turn against the institutions (plan failed).

Instead the plan started to backfire as it was becoming obvious that the issue is not being resolved purposefully as the dharna started to get media coverage of its demands (which were same as Shahbaz Sharif's demands, lol) so the diversion and the tactics in delaying the issue resolution started becoming obvious even to the general public.

Imagine if there were blood at the hands of an accident if Army instead of negotiating had confronted the religious protesters who were unknowingly being used as slaughter goats by the corrupt Kingpin monitoring the situation from Jati Umrah. Yes sir, keep your eyes closed if so you desire, slaughter goats!
Why else were the sentiments cooked up by operation before Army was called in?

Thankfully, the Army was well aware of the fact that (due to allowing dharna all the way from Lahore by a known Dharna Mob Molvi, then delaying tactics and subsequrnt operation) the situation was allowed to come to a boil deliberately (or as is now being claimed by interior minister : due to incompetance of civil admin acting on high court order, lol) and needed to be cooled down by nothing else but negotiation as the riots could spread countrywide.

The fact that Nawaz & co. still managed to challenge the IQ level of fashionably anti Army pseudo-liberals goes a long way to provide an insight into their mental state that is eager to latch on to any hint of a chance to put the blame on the Army.

The Army has proved yet again that it has firmly decided not to impose martial law, work with the government and support institutions instead of personalities.

Army has proved that it is the most disciplined pillar of the state that is helping to lift the weight of other pillars and not just defence, be it counter terrorism, census taking, aiding polio teams, disaster support or coming in aid of a remote controlled suicidal government.
 
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Adding to the post of @Realistic Change and about understanding the situation...

Pmln is now trying to somehow up-ease it's own people and general constituents some of who had been protesting in dharnas and pmln leadership is finding excuses to hide behind for the deceitful and cunning plan of its Jati Umrah leadership that thankfully still went awry...

There is no secret that most of these very people have been voters of Pmln in the past but got alienated due to upeasing the west policies of Nawaz Sharif that turned these very leaders against him. Also keep in mind that It is no secret that Nawaz Sharif was not happy with their stand against Kulsoom Nawaz in NA120, however Shahbaz Sharif was against alienating the same any further.

The thing to comprehend is that how this dharna was given a open hand to let it be organized and allowed to leave for Islamabad back then from Lahore and Faisalabad. How it got safe passage throughout its route, allowed to reach Faizabad interchange and linger on (according to plan so far) instead of a timely resolution, is no secret anymore nor the fact that it was planned to be used as a diversion by playing on both sides, for and against, respectively, behind the scenes and openly (the plan initially went on successfully). We already know how much esteem Molvi Khadim Hussain holds among second tier leadership of Pmln.

It is in plain sight now that if the complete Jati Umrah plan had worked as was hoped (but failed) then Nawaz & co would have managed to malign(plan failed) both the Judiciary and the Army by pitching them against each other (plan failed) as well as the religiously charged protesters (plan failed) while the general public mood also did not turn against the institutions (plan failed).

Instead the plan started to backfire as it was becoming obvious that the issue is not being resolved purposefully as the dharna started to get media coverage of its demands so the diversion and the tactics in delaying the issue resolution started becoming obvious even to the general public.

Imagine if there were blood at the hands of an accident if Army instead of negotiating had confronted the religious protesters who were unknowingly being used as slaughter goats by the corrupt Kingpin monitoring the situation from Jati Umrah. Yes sir, keep your eyes closed if so you desire, slaughter goats!
Why else were the sentiments cooked up by operation before Army was called in?

Thankfully, the Army was well aware of the fact that (due to allowing dharna all the way from Lahore by a known Dharna Mob Molvi, then delaying tactics and subsequrnt operation) the situation was allowed to come to a boil deliberately (or as is now being claimed by interior minister : due to incompetance of civil admin acting on high court order, lol) and needed to be cooled down by nothing else but negotiation as the riots could spread countrywide.

The fact that Nawaz & co. still managed to challenge the IQ level of fashionably anti Army pseudo-liberals goes a long way to provide an insight into their mental state that is eager to latch on to any hint of a chance to put the blame on the Army.

The Army has proved yet again that it has firmly decided not to impose martial law, work with the government and support institutions instead of personalities.

Army has proved that it is the most disciplined pillar of the state that is helping to lift the weight of other pillars and not just defence, be it counter terrorism, census taking, aiding polio teams, disaster support or coming in aid of a remote controlled suicidal government.
Here is the question , Why Shahbaz Shareef allowed this rally toward Islamabad. According to PMLn govt, they allow this rally after negotiating with this clan and they got permission from Punjab govt. Islamabad should be no go zone for such type of protest.
 
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Adding to the post of @Realistic Change and about understanding the situation...

Pmln is now trying to somehow up-ease it's own people and general constituents some of who had been protesting in dharnas and pmln leadership is finding excuses to hide behind for the deceitful and cunning plan of its Jati Umrah leadership that thankfully still went awry...

There is no secret that most of these very people have been voters of Pmln in the past but got alienated due to upeasing the west policies of Nawaz Sharif that turned these very leaders against him. Also keep in mind that It is no secret that Nawaz Sharif was not happy with their stand against Kulsoom Nawaz in NA120, however Shahbaz Sharif was against alienating the same any further.

The thing to comprehend is that how this dharna was given a open hand to let it be organized and allowed to leave for Islamabad back then from Lahore and Faisalabad. How it got safe passage throughout its route, allowed to reach Faizabad interchange and linger on (according to plan so far) instead of a timely resolution, is no secret anymore nor the fact that it was planned to be used as a diversion by playing on both sides, for and against, respectively, behind the scenes and openly (the plan initially went on successfully). We already know how much esteem Molvi Khadim Hussain holds among second tier leadership of Pmln.

It is in plain sight now that if the complete Jati Umrah plan had worked as was hoped (but failed) then Nawaz & co would have managed to malign(plan failed) both the Judiciary and the Army by pitching them against each other (plan failed) as well as the religiously charged protesters (plan failed) while the general public mood also did not turn against the institutions (plan failed).

Instead the plan started to backfire as it was becoming obvious that the issue is not being resolved purposefully as the dharna started to get media coverage of its demands so the diversion and the tactics in delaying the issue resolution started becoming obvious even to the general public.

Imagine if there were blood at the hands of an accident if Army instead of negotiating had confronted the religious protesters who were unknowingly being used as slaughter goats by the corrupt Kingpin monitoring the situation from Jati Umrah. Yes sir, keep your eyes closed if so you desire, slaughter goats!
Why else were the sentiments cooked up by operation before Army was called in?

Thankfully, the Army was well aware of the fact that (due to allowing dharna all the way from Lahore by a known Dharna Mob Molvi, then delaying tactics and subsequrnt operation) the situation was allowed to come to a boil deliberately (or as is now being claimed by interior minister : due to incompetance of civil admin acting on high court order, lol) and needed to be cooled down by nothing else but negotiation as the riots could spread countrywide.

The fact that Nawaz & co. still managed to challenge the IQ level of fashionably anti Army pseudo-liberals goes a long way to provide an insight into their mental state that is eager to latch on to any hint of a chance to put the blame on the Army.

The Army has proved yet again that it has firmly decided not to impose martial law, work with the government and support institutions instead of personalities.

Army has proved that it is the most disciplined pillar of the state that is helping to lift the weight of other pillars and not just defence, be it counter terrorism, census taking, aiding polio teams, disaster support or coming in aid of a remote controlled suicidal government.
Thank you sir, Great summary,,,,,,,,,, But I am afraid that, "fashionably anti Army pseudo-liberals" as you mentioned will not understand this, because this is what the feed on "Anti-Army" and "Anti-Pakistan".
I said one line on first day but people don't understand , line is: Chotay Bhai nay banday bhayjay , Barray Bhai nay Kamal kerdiya,,,,, Lakin Sara mansoba ullta pergiya.
 
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Btw if you people think Mr Hamid is the only casualty of this debacle. Just saying "watch this space".
 
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Here is the question , Why Shahbaz Shareef allowed this rally toward Islamabad. According to PMLn govt, they allow this rally after negotiating with this clan and they got permission from Punjab govt. Islamabad should be no go zone for such type of protest.
Whole thing was part of plan,,,,,,,, Every thing , if plan works then very good , if not still blame Army and Judiciary, and collect as much sympathy possible on international forums (showing them how liberal we are and how Islamist + Army + Judiciary wont allow us to work).
 
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Says the wiseguy :lol:who has enough spare time to lurk around a political thread of another country looking to make a fool out of himself:rofl: while his very own lynch mob:butcher: is after the head of a FILM ACTRESS.:haha:

Let's keep it on topic. We need not sully this thread with Indian issues. Just report them and let the moderators deal with them if they are trolling.
 
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