Police join Indians in Persecuting Christians

[KS]

.. christian missionaries are making good progress in Punjab.

I think its primarily among the low caste Sikhs in villages...and that the Dal Khalsa is taking steps to counter that..Hindus in Punjab are mostly urban and middle class and this is social group (anywhere) is immune to conversion.

 

[A1Kaid]

Absolute disgrace the treatment of minorities in that country is despicable especially when you have actual law enforcement personnel involved in the abuse of minority groups.

However, reports of police helping Hindu extremists attack Christians in Madhya Pradesh is a little disconcerting. Usually, Stravers explains, extremists go to police before they engage in violence against believers; then when the attack is reported and police are called in, they often arrest the Christians.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/centra...ans-persecuting-christians.html#ixzz2G8sJqJ7z

Sounds like a dysfunctional country especially when law enforcement themselves are violating the laws.

 

[KS]

BTW these missionaries are the best speech writers man..gotta give credit..just look at this para

In places like the "Hindu Heartland" where tolerance is threadbare and injustice is commonplace, Stravers says the storms of persecution only make believers tighten their grips on the Rock that is Jesus Christ.

dude writes better dialogues than most bollywood writers...

 

[Sashan]

sshan Its your country you can ban all Christian missionaries but again you can not ask for forcing people NOT to go for Christianity.

If it is their own choice it is not an issue but if p*** like these Mission India groups try to dish out nonsense then it is an issue.


Here is something I am quoting from their site.


Mission India believes in the importance of accountability to our supporters and our God as we work to fulfill our vision of "India Transformed by Christ."


Superstition and idol worship have an iron grip—there is no forgiveness or joy

Our partners share our vision to see "India Transformed by Christ"
And that vision is already being realized.

 

[zaxcolix]

I think its primarily among the low caste Sikhs in villages...and that the Dal Khalsa is taking steps to counter that..Hindus in Punjab are mostly urban and middle class and this is social group (anywhere) is immune to conversion.

Its a mistake to think urban and middle class are immune to conversion. China is a classic example.

They are educated, middle class, no faith and devoid of ethics. They are perfect zombies for religious indoctrination. You will be surprised to find how many middle class Hindus have little or no knowledge of hindusim and there is not enough funding with Hindu religious bodies (Thanks to govt. control of Hindu religious funds) to reach out to such people.

Tamil Nadu is another example where DMK active Anti Hindu policies have provided a fertile ground for conversion, both Christian and Islamic.

 

[Bang Galore]

Hmm that's ironic considering your on this thread about Hindus persecuting Christians cuz of their beliefs

Christians have been India for a very long time without being persecuted for their beliefs. The friction is happening because a small group, foreign funded, is aggressively proselytising and that involves putting down other faiths. No one ever joined a group which said that "your way is also right". It is only those groups who believe "it's my way or the highway" that get involved in such acts.

 

[KS]

Its a mistake to think urban and middle class are immune to conversion. China is a classic example.

They are educated, middle class, no faith and devoid of ethics. They are perfect zombies for religious indoctrination. You will be surprised to find how many middle class Hindus have little or no knowledge of hindusim and there is not enough funding with Hindu religious bodies (Thanks to govt. control of Hindu religious funds) to reach out to such people.

Tamil Nadu is another example where DMK active Anti Hindu policies have provided a fertile ground for conversion, both Christian and Islamic.

No there is a difference between Chinese middle class and Indian middle class...the chinese middle class is mostly a product of the communist atheist system with no active religious preference..also by their enchantment with west because of the materialistic nature, they become easy targets for the missionaries..but Indian middle class (among the hindus) is more rooted in their faith,tradition and since the primary modus operandi of the missionaries in India is conversion through money, it does not go sucessfully with the middle class which is not exactly short of money...

and I wont say the chinese middle class are devoid of ethics..only that the atheism and materialism has weakened china's native faiths and have provided easy harvesting ground for the missionaries..I hope the CPC takes enough steps to contain the menace...cant afford to loose china to these cults

 

[third eye]

Sounds like a dysfunctional country especially when law enforcement themselves are violating the laws.

Do these words ring a bell ?

Quite like another country in the neighborhood perhaps ?

 

[KS]

Tamil Nadu is another example where DMK active Anti Hindu policies have provided a fertile ground for conversion, both Christian and Islamic.

Islamists dont indulge in conversion much..

 

[Spring Onion]

You missed this part-- "try & sell that proposition". Same should be applied to any Hindu if they try & sell that proposition.

The issue in India is that Christian missniories are offering facilities and people are joining Christianity for a better life thats where Hinduism failed as far as Christinaity driver is concerned . The argument from Hindu Indians for opposing is always "selling" word. On the other hand those who oppose Christian missionaries in India do not try to offer anything like that and reform the lives those who willingly want to leave Hinduism for better life.

Mostly low cast Hindus convert to Christianism.

and i believe that hard liner Hindu groups are between the rock and the sea here

 

[senheiser]

so stupid this is how cristianity wins, romans also prosecuted them and in the end they converted to jesus. If indians want to stay hindu they should ignore them.

 

[Azazel]

The issue in India is that Christian missniories are offering facilities and people are joining Christianity for a better life thats where Hinduism failed as far as Christinaity driver is concerned . The argument from Hindu Indians for opposing is always "selling" word. On the other hand those who oppose Christian missionaries in India do not try to offer anything like that and reform the lives those who willingly want to leave Hinduism for better life.

Mostly low cast Hindus convert to Christianism.

and i believe that hard liner Hindu groups are between the rock and the sea here

Yeah,Its all true.Missionaries come here to harvest Indian Souls.And apparently some people here don't like it.I say keep them out.These people are responsible for countless ethnic problems in places like Africa.They bring nothing but trouble.

 

[Iggy]

The issue in India is that Christian missniories are offering facilities and people are joining Christianity for a better life thats where Hinduism failed as far as Christinaity driver is concerned . The argument from Hindu Indians for opposing is always "selling" word. On the other hand those who oppose Christian missionaries in India do not try to offer anything like that and reform the lives those who willingly want to leave Hinduism for better life.

Mostly low cast Hindus convert to Christianism.

and i believe that hard liner Hindu groups are between the rock and the sea here

But the important think you have to know that even other christian cults are also loosing followers to these new churches not only the low caste Hindus..


And the way these new groups is recruiting is terribly wrong..

Rather than spreading the message of god, they prefer converting peoples like sales men trying to achieve the target..

They are offering food and cloths if some one converted to their faith..

Its not what my religion teaches..

My religion advice to give food for poor and hungry not to only those who converted to Christianity..

This is very wrong and I do not agree with this kind of actions.

 

[Sashan]

The issue in India is that Christian missniories are offering facilities and people are joining Christianity for a better life thats where Hinduism failed as far as Christinaity driver is concerned . The argument from Hindu Indians for opposing is always "selling" word. On the other hand those who oppose Christian missionaries in India do not try to offer anything like that and reform the lives those who willingly want to leave Hinduism for better life.

Mostly low cast Hindus convert to Christianism.

and i believe that hard liner Hindu groups are between the rock and the sea here

And what facilities are these missionaries offering to people? If low caste converts are getting a better life, why would dalit Christians are seeking a par status with the supposedly "even lowly" Hindu dalits and crying discrimination? If the missionaries have failed to offer better life then I would say they have cheated people.


The Hindu : Cities / Delhi : Dalit Muslims, Christians demand Scheduled Caste status

 

[Bang Galore]

The issue in India is that Christian missniories are offering facilities and people are joining Christianity for a better life thats where Hinduism failed as far as Christinaity driver is concerned . The argument from Hindu Indians for opposing is always "selling" word. On the other hand those who oppose Christian missionaries in India do not try to offer anything like that and reform the lives those who willingly want to leave Hinduism for better life.

Mostly low cast Hindus convert to Christianism.

and i believe that hard liner Hindu groups are between the rock and the sea here

A.R. Rahman started life as Dileep Kumar & converted to Islam.Even though he turned his back on Hinduism, did it make any difference to his career or the affection he receives. It didn't because it was a private decision. When you publicly denigrate ( & they are very abusive) the majority religion in order to get converts, it can almost certainly guarantee friction.