PML-N Political Desk

[Norwegian]

If you stole the people's mandate, then the accusing side has to prove it first, and you will still have the legal right to defend yourself against those allegations.

How is the accusing side gonna prove it if the accused does not even allow investigators investigate those accusations per law demands?

 

[VCheng]

How is the accusing side gonna prove it if the accused does not even allow investigators investigate those accusations per law demands?

That is exactly where due process is important. The burden of proof is on the side making the allegations.

 

[Norwegian]

That is exactly where due process is important. The burden of proof is on the side making the allegations.

That is correct and PTI has produced a 1000+ pages white paper that has many proofs court can use if they are really willing to investigate widespread rigging.

 

[VCheng]

That is correct and PTI has produced a 1000+ pages white paper that has many proofs court can use if they are really willing to investigate widespread rigging.

Those are pages of alleged evidence which need to be evaluated first for them to be legally acceptable.

 

[Leader]

 

[Panther 57]

That is correct, and the appropriate way is to throw these rascals out at the next elections, just like the Zardari gang was thrown out. Do that a few more times and they will earn their lesson and start delivering for the people. There are no short cuts to this process.

There is no way you can throw out these rogues through elections unless and until electoral reforms take place and implementation of article 62/63 is ensured. As long as one of these are in power both these provisions cannot be met. Pick up the history and see how many faces have changed, even MQM is now using the same faces again and again.

Previously Mufti Mehmood, now his son. Qazi Hussain Ahmed now his daughter. Gohar Ayub now his son. Nawaz shariff now his daughter also. Shahbaz Sharif now his son also. Leghari now his son. Itezaz Ahsan his wife in the way. Zulfiqar Mirza his wife already their now his son. Bhutto followed by BB and then her husband, bilawal and Bakhtawar in making. Qaim Ali Shah and his daughter also. Achakzai, his brothers brother in law are all in. Wali Khan followed by his wife and his son. Gillani followed by his two sons. Power is concentrated in few hands who mold constitution to suit their requirement. Only those articles are being implemented which suit them. On one hand 62/63 is violated and 18th amendment is worshiped like a deity, because it removes the restriction of two terms in office. No one thought of making entry into parliament difficult for corrupt and opportunist, but decision to provide life time benefits to parliamentarians, even he or she is there for one day, was unanimously adopted without any debate.

It is simple garbage in garbage out. Unless the milling process and raw material is improved, product will always be what we get now.

When has there been a Martial Law in France or USA? Pakistan is unique in that its Army controls and dictates, it does not provide consultations unless they are mandatorily accepted. There is a huge difference in the approach. What the Army wants is not necessarily what is good for Pakistan.

but both these countries have gone through bloody revolution and civil war. Is it better to slaughter hundreds of thousands or a simple take over and bringing to justice the culprits only?

 

[Jzaib]

 

[VCheng]

There is no way you can throw out these rogues through elections unless and until electoral reforms take place and implementation of article 62/63 is ensured. As long as one of these are in power both these provisions cannot be met. Pick up the history and see how many faces have changed, even MQM is now using the same faces again and again.

Previously Mufti Mehmood, now his son. Qazi Hussain Ahmed now his daughter. Gohar Ayub now his son. Nawaz shariff now his daughter also. Shahbaz Sharif now his son also. Leghari now his son. Itezaz Ahsan his wife in the way. Zulfiqar Mirza his wife already their now his son. Bhutto followed by BB and then her husband, bilawal and Bakhtawar in making. Qaim Ali Shah and his daughter also. Achakzai, his brothers brother in law are all in. Wali Khan followed by his wife and his son. Gillani followed by his two sons. Power is concentrated in few hands who mold constitution to suit their requirement. Only those articles are being implemented which suit them. On one hand 62/63 is violated and 18th amendment is worshiped like a deity, because it removes the restriction of two terms in office. No one thought of making entry into parliament difficult for corrupt and opportunist, but decision to provide life time benefits to parliamentarians, even he or she is there for one day, was unanimously adopted without any debate.

It is simple garbage in garbage out. Unless the milling process and raw material is improved, product will always be what we get now.


but both these countries have gone through bloody revolution and civil war. Is it better to slaughter hundreds of thousands or a simple take over and bringing to justice the culprits only?

1. Dynastic politics is a reality of politics in Pakistan these days, just like the Army and its hold on real power. The solution lies in regular elections. Every time the Army disrupts this process, we go back to square one. Regular elections will cull the herd and allow better people to be elected. What happened to Pir Pagara? If you talk about GIGO, then please do keep in mind that people get the government they deserve.

2. Those revolutions and civil wars happened more than a century ago in a very different world. With all that is going in and around Pakistan, do you really think that a nuclear armed country can have a large scale bloody revolution like that?

 

[Leader]

ناکامی کے لفظ کو میں نہیں جانتا ( قائداعظم محمد علی جناح )

شرم کے لفظ کو میں نہیں جانتا(قائد پٹواری نورا شریف)

 

[Dubious]

Yaar WTH ?!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1384479778507859

Just coz kharay ho ker salaam nai kiya? I am like is the media spicing up the story ya politicians such much faltoo kutoun ki terhan country par HUKUM chalaray hain?!

Getting slapped for not standing up and saying salaam to an MNA??

 

[Dubious]

Zardari vs tinday bros

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=711099822297527

Sickening BS....Seriously! Sarkoun par jiss Zardari ko ghaseetna tha usko tou 70 dishes khilai gi...All this drama...after you after you scenario ...

 

[Panther 57]

Zardari vs tinday bros

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=711099822297527

Sickening BS....Seriously! Sarkoun par jiss Zardari ko ghaseetna tha usko tou 70 dishes khilai gi...All this drama...after you after you scenario ...

I strongly protest on your post. 70 dishes were later first he became driver

 

[Dubious]

first he became driver

come again? this I have no clue about

 

[Panther 57]

come again? this I have no clue about

Nawaz Sharif went to receive AZ in his car driving it himself. When he visited Raiwind.

 

[Leader]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=349775478522665