PML-N Political Desk

[Dubious]

So what legal authority does PTI trust for justice? No one? Then what is left but protest? And those have failed too. Now what is next?

Well we can start from the beginning and just do the recount....satisfy everyone that there was no corruption involved...

You sound like NS announcing his victory even before the poll was in....

 

[VCheng]

Well we can start from the beginning and just do the recount....satisfy everyone that there was no corruption involved...

You sound like NS announcing his victory even before the poll was in....

Everybody except PTI is already satisfied. And PTI does not trust ECP anyway. It sounds like PTI is the problem, not the solution.

 

[Dubious]

Everybody except PTI is already satisfied. And PTI does not trust ECP anyway. It sounds like PTI is the problem, not the solution.

Everybody = PPP and PMLN ...why should they even blink...they are already playing your turn my turn...

How can they have a problem with a system which caters to them? Are they everybody? Nope PPP lost popularity due to Thar Desert crisis and also their 5 yrs tenure which was worse than anything Pakistan ever went through...Lets also not forget the lost soul during the Karachi airport attacks (lost soul = Sindh minister)

If this batch is your everybody then I am sorry that is not democracy but monarchy in turns!

 

[Leader]

yar PMLN is so incompetent that it doesnt even have expert level photoshop editors !

 

[Panther 57]

 

[VCheng]

Everybody = PPP and PMLN ...why should they even blink...they are already playing your turn my turn...

How can they have a problem with a system which caters to them? Are they everybody? Nope PPP lost popularity due to Thar Desert crisis and also their 5 yrs tenure which was worse than anything Pakistan ever went through...Lets also not forget the lost soul during the Karachi airport attacks (lost soul = Sindh minister)

If this batch is your everybody then I am sorry that is not democracy but monarchy in turns!

The system, bad as it is, still works very well for those that control it, not for everybody. As long as it delivers for the people in charge, the system will stay.

 

[Dubious]

The system, bad as it is, still works very well for those that control it, not for everybody. As long as it delivers for the people in charge, the system will stay.

Yes...so solution is get rid off meaning kill those in charge?

 

[VCheng]

Yes...so solution is get rid off meaning kill those in charge?

No, I do not advocate murder or anarchy.

The solution is gradual change by regular and timely elections. That is the best way possible without disruptions.

 

[Verve]

No, I do not advocate murder or anarchy.

The solution is gradual change by regular and timely elections. That is the best way possible without disruptions.

And let the looting continue just to allow (rigged) elections to be on timely basis? Do you know what happens in France? Protests are so common there that everytime government wants to do something a certain part of public doesn't like, protestors come out and government usually scraps that idea. And there have been long sit-ins all over France, none where gov fired teargas etc.

 

[VCheng]

And let the looting continue just to allow (rigged) elections to be on timely basis? Do you know what happens in France? Protests are so common there that everytime government wants to do something a certain part of public doesn't like, protestors come out and government usually scraps that idea. And there have been long sit-ins all over France, none where gov fired teargas etc.

True, but in France the Army knows its place and does not interfere either. Pakistan is not France.

 

[Panther 57]

No, I do not advocate murder or anarchy.

The solution is gradual change by regular and timely elections. That is the best way possible without disruptions.

Crime index of these politicians has gone so high that the only solution is to eliminate those who commit, promote, safeguard or perpetrate crime. Behind street crime, beggars mafia, land mafia, bhatta mafia, target killing, kidnapping for ransom, car lifting motorcycle snatching and you name a crime and pinnacle of crime protection umbrella you will find them. When crime index crosses its threshold, the system needs to be taken to cleaners.

 

[VCheng]

Crime index of these politicians has gone so high that the only solution is to eliminate those who commit, promote, safeguard or perpetrate crime. Behind street crime, beggars mafia, land mafia, bhatta mafia, target killing, kidnapping for ransom, car lifting motorcycle snatching and you name a crime and pinnacle of crime protection umbrella you will find them. When crime index crosses its threshold, the system needs to be taken to cleaners.

That is correct, and the appropriate way is to throw these rascals out at the next elections, just like the Zardari gang was thrown out. Do that a few more times and they will earn their lesson and start delivering for the people. There are no short cuts to this process.

 

[Verve]

True, but in France the Army knows its place and does not interfere either. Pakistan is not France.

In France, politicians give a damn about public and serving them, and defense strategies and policies are never in disagreement with the army. Here politicians want to make defense policies without army's consultation and many times against army's recommendations. Disconnecting from army is the issue here. No USA president can survive one term if he and the american military establishment are not on the same page. Kennedy is the case example!

 

[VCheng]

In France, politicians give a damn about public and serving them, and defense strategies and policies are never in disagreement with the army. Here politicians want to make defense policies without army's consultation and many times against army's recommendations. Disconnecting from army is the issue here. No USA president can survive one term if he and the american military establishment are not on the same page. Kennedy is the case example!

When has there been a Martial Law in France or USA? Pakistan is unique in that its Army controls and dictates, it does not provide consultations unless they are mandatorily accepted. There is a huge difference in the approach. What the Army wants is not necessarily what is good for Pakistan.

 

[Dubious]

When has there been a Martial Law in France or USA? Pakistan is unique in that its Army controls and dictates, it does not provide consultations unless they are mandatorily accepted. There is a huge difference in the approach. What the Army wants is not necessarily what is good for Pakistan.

You seem to be confusing everything with the fear of Martial law!

Can you not think this as what the public wants?

What happens when you keep probing...eventually an uprise occurs...if not today then tomorrow if not IK then someone else...

Due to you fear of the army you are advocating the people to continuously suffer and HOPE by magic the system which like you already admitted is pleasing the ruling party changes...

If it is pleasing the ruling party, will they allow change?

If not then HOW WILL CHANGE EVENTUALLY COME?