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[GHALIB]

@jamahir ...



Again, if @GHALIB is a fake Muslim, then all these liberal Hindus who are politically on opposite side of BJP can be called as fake Hindus??? Like i heard many times that Kalam ji was not a true Muslim because he beleives in equality of all religion rather than Islam is the only religion that is supreme than others??

If constitution is just a peace of paper, trust me many right wing Hindus will be happy to see India turn into Hindu Pakistan at point of time....if India turn into Hindus Pakistan, then Hindus do not have to even worry about sharing power with minorities which will prevent all the mess we are in right now...Is it an better option???

salauddin ayubi and khalid bib walid or jinnah are not my hero, nor my blood is mixed with some arab blood , am pure indian .
i don't like indian mullas who look for directions from pakistan or saudi arab.my heroes are rana pratap and shivaji .
my forefathers were hindu rajputs zamindars near ayodhya few hundred years ago , they were forced to become muslim over rebellion on revenue issues by mughal governor of oudh province after being defeated , even today my clan members live amicably in villages with my hindu rajput brothers . no wedding or social functions are complete without our participation .
some muslims expect anti india actions by us but we don't oblige anti indian traitors , our ancestors gave blood for india .

 

[Naofumi]

salauddin ayubi and khalid bib walid or jinnah are not my hero, nor my blood is mixed with some arab blood ,
i don't like indian mullas who look for directions from pakistan or saudi arab.my heroes are rana pratap and shivaji .
my forefathers were hindu rajputs zamindars near ayodhya few hundred years ago , they were forced to become muslim over rebellion on revenue issues by mughal governor of oudh province after being defeated , even today my clan members live amicably in villages with my hindu rajput brothers . no wedding or social functions are complete without our participation .
some muslims expect anti india actions by us but we don't oblige anti indian traitors , our ancestors gave blood for india .

And you vote for BJP?

 

[GHALIB]

And you vote for BJP?

i vote for samajwadi party or bsp . if some deserving rajput fights on bjp ticket we will vote for him.

 

[jamahir]

The most realistic solution is to maintain the status quo

For how long ??

is anything different possible?

Yes, possible if both countries really want to resolve that seven decade long issue. I am presently reading @TheGreatMaratha's thread. It is good. I will paste here a portion of it :

Decisions that in normal times could take years of deliberation are passed in a matter of hours. Immature and even dangerous technologies are pressed into service, because the risks of doing nothing are bigger. Entire countries serve as guinea-pigs in large-scale social experiments. What happens when everybody works from home and communicates only at a distance? What happens when entire schools and universities go online? In normal times, governments, businesses and educational boards would never agree to conduct such experiments. But these aren’t normal times.

So why can't Kashmir be taken up as urgently as the prioritized battle against Corona ??

 

[Naofumi]

i vote for samajwadi party or bsp . if some deserving rajput fights on bjp ticket we will vote for him.

You live in Delhi (profile says so)?

For how long ??

I meant a peaceful status quo.

 

[GHALIB]

You live in Delhi (profile says so)?

presently my children live in delhi , i am at kanpur because of my job in UP govt , my other family members live in sultanpur . we are shia khanzadas of sultanpur , if you know mazrooh sultanpuri he belonged to our clan . we are direct descendents of prithviraj chauhan .

 

[jamahir]

I meant a peaceful status quo.

That too for how long ?? And it is not so peaceful at all. In India-administered Kashmir there are militant attacks, cross-border sniping, cross-border artillery exchanges, a nine month lockdown, presence of hundreds of thousands of military and paramilitary personnel, house arrest of some prominent political leaders and also a growth of regressive elements within Kashmiri society.

if you know mazrooh sultanpuri he belonged to our clan

Interesting.

my other family members live in sultanpur . we are shia khanzadas of sultanpur , if you know mazrooh sultanpuri he belonged to our clan

The talented female young singer, Nishta Sharma, who took part in the Sony TV contest Superstar Singer, is also from Sultanpur.

 

[GHALIB]

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Interesting.



The talented female young singer, Nishta Sharma, who took part in the Sony TV contest Superstar Singer, is also from Sultanpur.

yes i remember , whole sultanpur was united in supporting her on net two years ago .
mazrooh sultan puri was a progressive inqlabi shayar and he wrote progressive shayari even before faiz ahmad faiz , he was pioneer of labour movements and was closely related with progressive writing in favour of poor people .

 

[jamahir]

yes i remember , whole sultanpur was united in supporting her on net two years ago .

Well, Superstar Singer was broadcast one year ago.

mazrooh sultan puri was a progressive writer and he wrote progressive poems even before faiz ahmad faiz , he was pioneer of labour movements and was closely related with progressive writing in favour of poor people .

Yes, the older generation in Hindi cinema was quite into Progressive activism. For example, Utpal Dutt, Kaifi Azmi and Balraj Sahni.

 

[GHALIB]

Well, Superstar Singer was broadcast one year ago.

i don't remember the exact date , but i saw her poster in sultanpur and news in local paper .

Well, Superstar Singer was broadcast one year ago.



Yes, the older generation in Hindi cinema was quite into Progressive activism. For example, Utpal Dutt, Kaifi Azmi and Balraj Sahni.

yes shailendra , hasarat jaipuri , sahir ludhianvi all were in progressive movement .

 

[Kaniska]

And you vote for BJP?

So what defines you to be a Muslim on PDF? If he is anti BJP/anti Hindu and toying the idea of Pakistan posters about us in PDF??

If that is where you identify a person as Muslim, then good luck with you...I am fine if any Indian Muslims is fighting or protesting as much as with BJP because this your political right to fight and complain..

Now for me @GHALIB and his pov is the kind of people who are part of our composition are respected...We will have problem when any ideas/thiughts/mindset of any Indian people will allign with mindset of broader statergy of Pakistan...

 

[Naofumi]

Interesting.

Don't you find his casteist views problematic as a socialist? He said he'll vote for anyone who's of his caste. I won't be surprised if he's a supporter of NRC too.

So what defines you to be a Muslim on PDF?

None of these, why do you think so? I clarified that it had nothing to do with his views.
Also, why are you equating anti BJP=anti Hindu? Are not you yourself anti-BJP?

 

[GHALIB]

Don't you find his casteist views problematic as a socialist? He said he'll vote for anyone who's of his caste. I won't be surprised if he's a supporter of NRC too.

this is because of local politics .
because out of ten times eight times rajputs or rajput muslim win from sultanpur , this is because of local permutations and combinations of local politics . i don't support illegal bangladeshis or pakistanis getting indian citizenship .

 

[Kaniska]

Don't you find his casteist views problematic as a socialist? He said he'll vote for anyone who's of his caste. I won't be surprised if he's a supporter of NRC too.


None of these, why do you think so? I clarified that it had nothing to do with his views.
Also, why are you equating anti BJP=anti Hindu? Are not you yourself anti-BJP?

I do not box myself with constant view...Currently i am with BJP but i view a BJP that punish people who riots based on what food do we eat....So till the point, i get better alternative on national scene, i will stick to BJP...I like Congress without Gandhi familly but i am strongly against any regional parties running the show in national govt in delhi...

 

[Naofumi]

I do not box myself with constant view...Currently i am with BJP but i view a BJP that punish people who riots based on what food do we eat....So till the point, i get better alternative on national scene, i will stick to BJP...I like Congress without Gandhi familly but i am strongly against any regional parties running the show in national govt in delhi...

Thanks for the clarification, though you did not clarified one thing - do you support BJP because you view anti BJP=anti Hindu? I mean you support BJP because "Hindu khatre me hai", right?