Royal Kathiyawadi
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It'd be better in a district like Ataşehir
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People can pray at home. we need science and freedom(s).
having 90.000 of them and the fact that state pays for their maintenance and staffWhat is wrong with a mosque?
It would be a better message if we build a big *** public library at that location.
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having 90.000 of them and the fact that state pays for their maintenance and staff
also their construction
it's against secularism
I see plenty of wrong with religion but let's not get into that. You live in the US right? can you tell me how many churches does the US government own?A mosque must be provided for Muslims, If they don't have other places of worship. If they have enough, then I can understand. Religion brings people towards hope, and I don't see anything wrong with it. But it is your country, so I don't want to tell you what should or should not happen.
I wanted that for YEARS actualy. We need a mega-sized city library in İstanbul.It would be a better message if we build a big *** public library at that location.
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I see plenty of wrong with religion but let's not get into that. You live in the US right? can you tell me how many churches does the US government own?
I wanted that for YEARS actualy. We need a mega-sized city library in İstanbul.
and a planetarium
I'd like you to know that even though I am an atheist I see Pakistan as a brother country. look I respect your right to believe anything you want... That's not the issue here. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any mosques either, please read my posts carefully.I'd like to respectfully decline getting into this issue further with you. I am a religious muslim. I also consider Turkey as a brotherly country, and you Turkish people must lead it. If I continue this conversation/debate, it will be negative. I stated my opinion, and that should be enough.
He said he didn't want to get into the wrong or good of religion(s). I don't see why you have to get negative, just have a constructive argument. He asked you how many religious grounds does the us government own. No need for negativity.....I'd like to respectfully decline getting into this issue further with you. I am a religious muslim. I also consider Turkey as a brotherly country, and you Turkish people must lead it. If I continue this conversation/debate, it will be negative. I stated my opinion, and that should be enough.
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Respectfully, I'd like to say that your nation would go to hell with private owned mosques. I actually admire state owned mosques as opposed to what we have here in Pakistan. With foundations you accept foreign donations, and with that comes agendas of foreign nations.I'd like you to know that even though I am an atheist I see Pakistan as a brother country. look I respect your right to believe anything you want... That's not the issue here. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any mosques either, please read my posts carefully.
I'm only against the state ownership of the houses of prayer. Churches and mosques should be owned by foundations.
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He said he didn't want to get into the wrong or good of religion(s). I don't see why you have to get negative, just have a constructive argument. He asked you how many religious grounds does the us government own. No need for negativity.....
It's actually a good point and I understand your concerns but I as an atheist I also don't want my tax money to go into religion. And if I was a muslim I'd like some more religious freedom I think. Because religion is regulated quite heavily in Turkey. You can only call the azan in arabic, in a certain manner or you can only give the friday sermon as it's scripted by the chairman of Diyanat. And of course all Imam wages are paid by the government and when government tells them to jump they have to ask how high. Isn't that also bad?Respectfully, I'd like to say that your nation would go to hell with private owned mosques. I actually admire state owned mosques as opposed to what we have here in Pakistan. With foundations you accept foreign donations, and with that comes agendas of foreign nations.
If Turkey, lets go of state ordinance mosques, then you will face the type of militants and ideology that we have in Pakistan.
You would be essentially poisoning your own youth and lead your country down a dark path.
Again, just an opinion of a Pakistani Muslim that has seen more brutality than central Africa within his nation.