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Chairman Joint Chief of Staff General Khalid Shameen delayed his visit to Canada
PM calls back FM from the US
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...Things are not looking good for pakistan, big businesses , rich men, political parties and anybody with money should start parking their money ou of pakistan.....or see their wealth turn to the value of ashes in days....same may be applicable for the near & dear
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1.The correct place for a FM to be in, in the event of a war or UN sanctions, is at the UN.
2. Kindly also note India's senior most minister and considered USA's favorite, Pranab Mukharjee has been called to NY urgently by his PM. Official indication is regarding 2G scam, but India's media is trashing that.
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So says, an Indian Joker, I mean Jotshi...... guess even your own folks are not taking any notice...
Oh, Sania Mirza arrived in Pakistan today to watch the T-20 series.!!
Weird, wouldn't you agree....a country about to say good bye to the world..... playing cricket.
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^LOL. You are good sense of humor, man!
What do you expect dear, we are debating with Indians.
Some American CENTCOM dude was on a good will visit today to JCSC, and according to dream warriors, the missiles are flying.
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...who told U that he was on a "good will" visit. US embassy declined to detail the meeting they had with kiyani and ISPR. Did ISPR report the meeting?
.....Any way............."Let the sleeping dog lie."......
...BTW, score kaya hua hai..........?
{Disclaimer :- by score- I ,still, mean the cricket score...
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....Right. As was done in times of troubles, ready the Army and move the valuable assets to safe place..
Pakistan's generals meet as relations with US hit new low
Protesters burn a mock US flag during a protest in Hyderabad, Pakistan.
Pakistan's army chief has gathered his generals to discuss the escalating war of words with the US over the Haqqani insurgent network amid a deep sense of foreboding across the country.
The military refused to comment on the meeting chaired by General Ashfaq Kayani other than to say it was to discuss the "prevailing security situation". Media reports said the generals considered retaliatory action in the event of US military strikes in the northwestern tribal belt.
Meanwhile the prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, recalled his foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar, who has strongly defended the military, from the United Nations in New York.
The political and military scrambling reflected the gravity of a crisis triggered by a 20-hour Haqqani assault on the US embassy in Kabul on 13 September, and subsequent US allegations that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency was behind the attack.
Last week the outgoing US military chief, Admiral Mike Mullen, described the Haqqani network as a "veritable arm" of the ISI that were being used to fight a "proxy war" in Afghanistan.
The bare-knuckles criticism of Pakistan's military, unprecedented since 2001, has plunged already troubled relations to a new low and triggered a deep sense of foreboding in Pakistan about what is coming next.
US actions will also be driven by domestic political pressure. In a taste of rising impatience with Pakistan, one senior Republican said the US was "going to have to put all options on the table, including defending our troops".
"We need to put Pakistan on notice," Senator Lindsey Graham, a member of the armed services committee, told Fox News.
Analysts say the US will have to take action, but there is little indication what it will be. "They have to do something; they can't leave it hanging like this," said regional analyst Michael Semple.
Speculation is rife. One option would be air strikes or a special forces raid into the Haqqani safehaven of North Waziristan in the tribal belt. But most analysts believe such a scenario is unlikely, at least for now, given the risks of triggering upheaval that could destabilise the Pakistani government, and even lead to a military takeover.
Instead there are suggestions that the US could increase the tempo of CIA-directed drone strikes against the Haqqanis, including on populated urban areas that the CIA has previously avoided.
One likely target would be Miran Shah, the main town in North Waziristan, where US officials complain the Haqqani leadership lives in close proximity to a major Pakistani base.
Pakistan's military admits it has contacts with the Haqqanis but insists they are for the purposes of gathering intelligence, not for priming attacks on US forces in Afghanistan.
"Any intelligence agency would like to maintain contact with whatever opposition group, whatever terrorist organisation for some positive outcome," military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas told CNN.
President Asif Ali Zardari's government, meanwhile, finds itself hamstrung by a foreign policy it does not control. Paradoxically, this lack of power could insulate the civilians from a military takeover, said defence analyst Dr Hasan Askari-Rizvi.
"I don't think there will be a coup. The civilian government doesn't get in the military's way, so they have no need to knock them out," he said.
Meanwhile other tensions are bubbling along the northeastern part of the Afghan border, away from Waziristan. The Afghan defence ministry has accused Pakistan of firing over 300 artillery shells and rockets into Kunar and Nuristan provinces since Wednesday.
Pakistan says that Pakistani Taliban militants are using the same Afghan territory recently vacated by US forces - to mount raids into Pakistan.
Behind the angry rhetoric between the US and Pakistan, there is a strong sense that both sides need each other at least for now. Amid the firestorm of allegations a senior US officer, General James Mattis, paid General Kayani a visit on Saturday.
Prime minister Gilani perhaps put it most succinctly: "They can't live with us. They can't live without us."
Keep mockery on US and their failures on Afghanistan to turn blames on Pakistan!
Protesters burn a mock US flag during a protest in Hyderabad, Pakistan.
Pakistan's army chief has gathered his generals to discuss the escalating war of words with the US over the Haqqani insurgent network amid a deep sense of foreboding across the country.
The military refused to comment on the meeting chaired by General Ashfaq Kayani other than to say it was to discuss the "prevailing security situation". Media reports said the generals considered retaliatory action in the event of US military strikes in the northwestern tribal belt.
Meanwhile the prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, recalled his foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar, who has strongly defended the military, from the United Nations in New York.
The political and military scrambling reflected the gravity of a crisis triggered by a 20-hour Haqqani assault on the US embassy in Kabul on 13 September, and subsequent US allegations that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency was behind the attack.
Last week the outgoing US military chief, Admiral Mike Mullen, described the Haqqani network as a "veritable arm" of the ISI that were being used to fight a "proxy war" in Afghanistan.
The bare-knuckles criticism of Pakistan's military, unprecedented since 2001, has plunged already troubled relations to a new low and triggered a deep sense of foreboding in Pakistan about what is coming next.
US actions will also be driven by domestic political pressure. In a taste of rising impatience with Pakistan, one senior Republican said the US was "going to have to put all options on the table, including defending our troops".
"We need to put Pakistan on notice," Senator Lindsey Graham, a member of the armed services committee, told Fox News.
Analysts say the US will have to take action, but there is little indication what it will be. "They have to do something; they can't leave it hanging like this," said regional analyst Michael Semple.
Speculation is rife. One option would be air strikes or a special forces raid into the Haqqani safehaven of North Waziristan in the tribal belt. But most analysts believe such a scenario is unlikely, at least for now, given the risks of triggering upheaval that could destabilise the Pakistani government, and even lead to a military takeover.
Instead there are suggestions that the US could increase the tempo of CIA-directed drone strikes against the Haqqanis, including on populated urban areas that the CIA has previously avoided.
One likely target would be Miran Shah, the main town in North Waziristan, where US officials complain the Haqqani leadership lives in close proximity to a major Pakistani base.
Pakistan's military admits it has contacts with the Haqqanis but insists they are for the purposes of gathering intelligence, not for priming attacks on US forces in Afghanistan.
"Any intelligence agency would like to maintain contact with whatever opposition group, whatever terrorist organisation for some positive outcome," military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas told CNN.
President Asif Ali Zardari's government, meanwhile, finds itself hamstrung by a foreign policy it does not control. Paradoxically, this lack of power could insulate the civilians from a military takeover, said defence analyst Dr Hasan Askari-Rizvi.
"I don't think there will be a coup. The civilian government doesn't get in the military's way, so they have no need to knock them out," he said.
Meanwhile other tensions are bubbling along the northeastern part of the Afghan border, away from Waziristan. The Afghan defence ministry has accused Pakistan of firing over 300 artillery shells and rockets into Kunar and Nuristan provinces since Wednesday.
Pakistan says that Pakistani Taliban militants are using the same Afghan territory recently vacated by US forces - to mount raids into Pakistan.
Behind the angry rhetoric between the US and Pakistan, there is a strong sense that both sides need each other at least for now. Amid the firestorm of allegations a senior US officer, General James Mattis, paid General Kayani a visit on Saturday.
Prime minister Gilani perhaps put it most succinctly: "They can't live with us. They can't live without us."
Keep mockery on US and their failures on Afghanistan to turn blames on Pakistan!
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You know, believe it or not, one of my best mate is Nasar, and he runs a poultry farm down town Bradford.
When Pakistan tested the Nasr missile, my buddy became butt of the jokes.... like the Turkey shoot.
Know what I mean. !!!
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...When has pakistan retaliated against US? It couldn't even protect it's people from Drone attacks, what could it do against F-18s and B-2....?Pakistan's generals meet as relations with US hit new low
Protesters burn a mock US flag during a protest in Hyderabad, Pakistan.
Pakistan's army chief has gathered his generals to discuss the escalating war of words with the US over the Haqqani insurgent network amid a deep sense of foreboding across the country.
The military refused to comment on the meeting chaired by General Ashfaq Kayani other than to say it was to discuss the "prevailing security situation". Media reports said the generals considered retaliatory action in the event of US military strikes in the northwestern tribal belt.
..All it can do is to rush generals or politicians to China ( or invite some of them here..)
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...who told U that he was on a "good will" visit. US embassy declined to detail the meeting they had with kiyani and ISPR. Did ISPR report the meeting?
.....Any way............."Let the sleeping dog lie."......
...BTW, score kaya hua hai..........?
{Disclaimer :- by score- I ,still, mean the cricket score...
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....Right. As was done in times of troubles, ready the Army and move the valuable assets to safe place..
Press Release
No PR219/2011-ISPR Dated: September 25, 2011
Rawalpindi - September 25, 2011:
General James N. Mattis Commander US CENTCOM called on General Khalid Shameem Wynne Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC). Both leaders discussed various matters of mutual interests and emerging geo – strategic situation in the region.
CJCSC expressed his concern about the negative statements emanating from US. He stressed upon addressing the irritants in the relationship which are a result of an extremely complex situation. He reiterated that Pakistan armed Forces are committed to achieving enduring peace in the region which will only be possible through mutual trust and cooperation.
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:: ISPR :: Inter Services Public Relations - PAKISTAN
---------- Post added at 11:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 PM ----------
...who told U that he was on a "good will" visit. US embassy declined to detail the meeting they had with kiyani and ISPR. Did ISPR report the meeting?
.....Any way............."Let the sleeping dog lie."......
...BTW, score kaya hua hai..........?
{Disclaimer :- by score- I ,still, mean the cricket score...
---------- Post added at 01:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:39 AM ----------
....Right. As was done in times of troubles, ready the Army and move the valuable assets to safe place..
Press Release
No PR219/2011-ISPR Dated: September 25, 2011
Rawalpindi - September 25, 2011:
General James N. Mattis Commander US CENTCOM called on General Khalid Shameem Wynne Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC). Both leaders discussed various matters of mutual interests and emerging geo strategic situation in the region.
CJCSC expressed his concern about the negative statements emanating from US. He stressed upon addressing the irritants in the relationship which are a result of an extremely complex situation. He reiterated that Pakistan armed Forces are committed to achieving enduring peace in the region which will only be possible through mutual trust and cooperation.
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:: ISPR :: Inter Services Public Relations - PAKISTAN
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Dog Eats Dog........
BTW, Watch this space...... to be named and shamed or the latest scores. !!!
I agree with you, mate! I don't have much time to debate with Indians trollings or low quality posts.
Keep it up man and great humors!
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I agree with you, mate! I don't have much time to debate with Indians trollings or low quality posts.
Keep it up man and great humors!
As they say in Cantonese.....
Acha Go Fukaya. !!! Tuchey Mye Tungsya. !!
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