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Honest answer: I don't know. your thoughts are taking a very dangerous direction.
I have been reading about propaganda tools, and recruitment procedure by LeT and other organizations.
They do use these tactics. Aren't they ?

Also, internet has become an internet tool for these organizations to spread wrong information and such incidents with misinformation added turning into propaganda material make thing worse.
 
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Vanzara said he had Modi’s nod to kill Ishrat: Gujarat cop


AHMEDABAD: The CBI chargesheet in the Ishrat Jahan case contains the testimony of a police witness who told a magistrate that he had heard DIG of crime branch, DG Vanzara, telling his junior officer G L Singhal about having obtained permission from chief minister Narendra Modi and and then junior Gujarat home minister Amit Shah for killing her in a fake encounter.
Deputy superintendent of police in crime branch, D H Goswami, had given this statement under Section 164 of CrPC before the additional judicial magistrate, Esplanade Court, Mumbai. His statement is part of the annexures to the chargesheet submitted by CBI in the Ahmedabad court on Wednesday.

Despite this testimony, the chargesheet, according to sources does not name Modi or Shah as accused. Whether this is because the CBI did not find Goswami's testimony credible or strong enough or because it wants to investigate the issue further and might include it in a supplementary chargesheet later is not clear.

In his testimony, Goswami said he had accompanied G L Singhal to the Shahibaug office of the crime branch in Ahmedabad on June 12, 2004, two days before the encounter in which Ishrat and three other alleged LeT terrorists were killed. He said ADG P P Pandey, D G Vanzara and IB officer Rajinder Kumar were already present there.

In his testimony, Goswami said he heard them talking about some LeT operation and Rajinder Kumar asking Vanzara to talk to the chief minister about it. Goswami quotes Vanzara as saying that he would talk to 'safed dadhi' (white beard) and 'kali dadhi' (black beard) — code names for Modi and Shah.

Goswami said he accompanied Singhal to the Shahibaug office again on June 14 at around noon, a few hours before the encounter. Vanzara handed over to them a written document which also mentioned the plan to kill Ishrat, apart from the three men. When Singhal objected to the plan to kill Ishrat, Goswami said he heard Vanzara saying that he had the approval of the political bosses.


Vanzara said he had Modi’s nod to kill Ishrat: Gujarat cop - The Times of India
 
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Vanzara said he had Modi’s nod to kill Ishrat: Gujarat cop


AHMEDABAD: The CBI chargesheet in the Ishrat Jahan case contains the testimony of a police witness who told a magistrate that he had heard DIG of crime branch, DG Vanzara, telling his junior officer G L Singhal about having obtained permission from chief minister Narendra Modi and and then junior Gujarat home minister Amit Shah for killing her in a fake encounter.
Deputy superintendent of police in crime branch, D H Goswami, had given this statement under Section 164 of CrPC before the additional judicial magistrate, Esplanade Court, Mumbai. His statement is part of the annexures to the chargesheet submitted by CBI in the Ahmedabad court on Wednesday.

Despite this testimony, the chargesheet, according to sources does not name Modi or Shah as accused. Whether this is because the CBI did not find Goswami's testimony credible or strong enough or because it wants to investigate the issue further and might include it in a supplementary chargesheet later is not clear.

In his testimony, Goswami said he had accompanied G L Singhal to the Shahibaug office of the crime branch in Ahmedabad on June 12, 2004, two days before the encounter in which Ishrat and three other alleged LeT terrorists were killed. He said ADG P P Pandey, D G Vanzara and IB officer Rajinder Kumar were already present there.

In his testimony, Goswami said he heard them talking about some LeT operation and Rajinder Kumar asking Vanzara to talk to the chief minister about it. Goswami quotes Vanzara as saying that he would talk to 'safed dadhi' (white beard) and 'kali dadhi' (black beard) — code names for Modi and Shah.

Goswami said he accompanied Singhal to the Shahibaug office again on June 14 at around noon, a few hours before the encounter. Vanzara handed over to them a written document which also mentioned the plan to kill Ishrat, apart from the three men. When Singhal objected to the plan to kill Ishrat, Goswami said he heard Vanzara saying that he had the approval of the political bosses.


Vanzara said he had Modi’s nod to kill Ishrat: Gujarat cop - The Times of India

Hearsay is inadmissible evidence under Indian Law. In a way it is good that this has come out for it is now clear that CBI has reached its limits and has nothing more to go on. The charge sheet will be thrown out in the court on the first day as no mens rea is revealed. CBI cannot reveal the Mens rea because then it will have to say that the killed were terrorists. The whole episode is good for Modi - Hindus will support him for getting terrorists killed, but the courts cannot touch him
 
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Everyone seems to be after Modi. Especially Pakistanis. Don't they know Congress has done more against Pakistan than any other party, when in Power. :lol:

I mean if you care about Pakistan, you should really pray that Congress doesn't come in power again. Except few mistakes made by Congress leaders, Congress is not good news for y'all.
 
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Everyone seems to be after Modi. Especially Pakistanis. Don't they know Congress has done more against Pakistan than any other party, when in Power. :lol:

I mean if you care about Pakistan, you should really pray that Congress doesn't come in power again. Except few mistakes made by Congress leaders, Congress is not good news for y'all.

Paranoiac Reverse psychology.

Whatever majority Ind members saying should be reciprocated with the opposite .
 
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Hearsay is inadmissible evidence under Indian Law. In a way it is good that this has come out for it is now clear that CBI has reached its limits and has nothing more to go on. The charge sheet will be thrown out in the court on the first day as no mens rea is revealed. CBI cannot reveal the Mens rea because then it will have to say that the killed were terrorists. The whole episode is good for Modi - Hindus will support him for getting terrorists killed, but the courts cannot touch him


The hindus also supported him for Gujarat massacr of Muslims.

anyway fake encounter is proven already. only whether Modi can be charged or not is the question
 
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Everyone seems to be after Modi. Especially Pakistanis. Don't they know Congress has done more against Pakistan than any other party, when in Power. :lol:

I mean if you care about Pakistan, you should really pray that Congress doesn't come in power again. Except few mistakes made by Congress leaders, Congress is not good news for y'all.

Yes, it is very interesting...Lets assume that Modi did something wrong to Indian Muslims..It is still an assumption though..there is no proof or nothing..but even if there was such an assumption, that should be an issue between local muslims and Modi..why are Pakistanis getting so excited and then show so much of hatred? Only reason I can see is that..they need to keep hating Hindus and they need a leader from Hindus who they can project as villain to justify their born hatred towards Hindus..What else could be????:mod:
 
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The hindus also supported him for Gujarat massacr of Muslims.

anyway fake encounter is proven already. only whether Modi can be charged or not is the question

What is important is that terrorists, including 2 Pakistanis, were killed by the police. Fake or not is irrelevant.
 
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interesting development ....
 
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When home ministry declared Ishrat Jahan and three others terrorists

Four years before the CBI filed a chargesheet declaring as fake the 2004 "encounter" in which Ishrat Jahan and three others were killed, the home ministry had filed an affidavit in the Gujarat High Court describing the four's alleged links with the Lashkar-e-Toiba. A look at what the affidavit, filed in August 2009 by R V S Mani, then undersecretary for internal security in the ministry, had to say about each of the four:

Javed Sheikh

According to Mani, Javed was in regular touch with LeT operatives for carrying out terror acts in Gujarat. He was born a Hindu who later changed his name from Pranesh Pillai. Mani said Javed was of a "criminal bent of mind" and concluded he was a rowdy. The conclusion was based on four criminal cases against Javed lodged in Thane district between 1992 and 1998, a period when he stayed in Mumbra and met Ishrat. Mani's affidavit claims that despite having converted to Islam, he procured a passport under his previous Hindu name in 2003 and went to Dubai. "It is suspected that while working in Dubai, he was subverted to the cause of LeT," the affidavit says.

Ishrat Jahan

"Javed and Ishrat were activists of terrorist organisation LeT," the affidavit says. "Neither Pillai (Javed's father) nor Kauser (Ishrat's mother) have chosen to disclose correct facts relating to occupation, activities and movements of Javed and Ishrat on account of the fact that both Javed and Ishrat were involved in such activities, disclosure of which would result in reflection of the bona fide of the police action against these four persons ..." It adds, "Ishrat was actively associated with LeT, and the apology by an LeT mouthpiece [this was issued to her family] is tactical, to discredit Indian security agencies and police and aimed at misleading the court". Another LeT mouthpiece had hailed Ishrat as "female martyr of LeT."
When home ministry declared Ishrat Jahan and three others terrorists - Indian Express


How this terrorist turn into innocent :lol::lol::lol: Just for sake of Italian lady and her lazy son

omkar after banning you came again with this new id. and spewing venom and BS

That is a hard truth not BS.
 
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That is really perverse.

Whom is Gandhi supposed to have killed? Indirectly?

Over a million Indians in the riots during the Partition. Of course before the Pakistanis jump, I am including their side on the tally as well.
 
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The hindus also supported him for Gujarat massacr of Muslims.

anyway fake encounter is proven already. only whether Modi can be charged or not is the question
Lets dissect your post.

The hindus, which Hindus are you talking about ? As far as I know Hindus were angry at 58 Hindus burnt to death, well that for you, seems perfectly fine. And no one supports killing of innocents.

Gujarat Massacre --- It was a RIOT. Started when, well I stated the reason. Don't tell me riots and violence like this wouldn't have happened in your country if similar thing would have happened when minorities killed majority.

You need to research a lot about Gujarat RIOT, I again emphasize, the RIOT.

As for Modi, if He is Involved or Not.
 
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