Plausible Turk-Pak Hybrid Presence Inside Afghanistan

[Sayfullah]

After losing 4K soldiers Pak let Bangals go....

What's the limit for Pak's endurance for Afganistan??? For some stuffs can be measured by money, and some stuffs are priceless...

We wasted 100k + lives and hundreds of billions of dollars in a useless war.
Taliban are fine with running Afghanistan.

The Muslim History of building Great Empires of Faith....

Taliban are fighting for shariah in Afghanistan and for a free Afghanistan free from occupation. Why should we fight our Muslim brothers who struggled for 20 years + to get rid of occupation?
Turkey is doing this to please kaffir usa and Europe.
Pakistan won’t be used for Turkeys gains we hope our Turkish brothers understand Taliban are mujahideen in Afghanistan and fighting them you’ll only suffer defeat never victory!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Jinnah:

Do you want a rich England under Germany, or a poor England Independent?

A moth-eaten Pakistan is better than no Pakistan.

Now, paraphrasing:

Do you want an NA under Russia/Iran/India etc. or an NA under the Turk-Pak hybrid presence?

A quasi-peaceful Afghanistan is better than a warring Afghanistan

We wasted 100k + lives and hundreds of billions of dollars in a useless war.
Taliban are fine with running Afghanistan.

Pak enormously sacrificed not to lose Afghanistan to anyone....

By the by, Turkey's loss can't be Pak's gain, or Turkey's gain can't be Pak's loss....

 

[khansaheeb]

We will support our Turkish brothers through thick and thin if they remain in Afghanistan.

Let the Afghans sort out their own mess. World should keep out and just trade with them. Enough of this meddling in Afghanistan because of it's " strategic location". Afghans have suffered enough and have been bombed by most of the Western world for decades and each of the NATO and non-NATO countries who were involved should pay reparation.

 

[mudas777]

Dude, People don't learn that you can't tell the Afghans how to run their country.

Muslims are there own worst enemies, Turkey have got F 35 problem and Erdogan thinks that's the way to go to please US. Pakistan needs to stay out of all this as putting boots on the ground can only lead to bleed Pakistan. Last time for few dollars we joined war on terror and that ended up burying 70000 loved ones for us. We must respect Afghan sovereignty and it doesn't exclude Kabul airport and let Afghans to settle their scores and bring peace to their land.
It almost feels like we are trying to protect Ghani so he can fly in and out of Afghanistan with guard of honour. Its not our place to be their and we are walking into this quagmire as Turkey wants to be their to be relevant. How will we feel if NATO walks in and take over Islamabad airport and their will be plenty of bro's will make noises but if we are going that route then its no different.

 

[Bilal.]

One can leave Afghanistan now or after paying heavy price in a decade or two.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Dude, People don't learn that you can't tell the Afghans how to run their country.

The Taliban did not fight for 40 years [including their antecedents], first the the Russians and then America-NATO forces for them now to accept foreign soldiers guarding their capital's airport. They will be more then happy to accept guests but without guns. The Taliban have already made this clear in their statement.

The crucial point people are conveniently ignoring or as is want of Pakistani's to go delusional when talking of "Islamic". People need to understand there is absolutely nothing Muslim or Islamic about Turkish foreign policy and that includes Erdogan except for lip service.

The Turkish soldiers in Afghanistan are NOT some force representing the ummah. The Turkish soldiers are in Afganistan as brothers in arms to Americans, French, Australians etc and are part of NATO. Thus leaving Turkish soldiers in Kabul is actually leaving NATO relic behind. You think that is acceptable to Taliban?

Just to underline that the Turks are part of the western alliance we all read news where Erdogan is telling NATO and America that "Turkey can protect western intrerests as long as America is prepared to finance the force. Thus Erdogan is selling Turkish soldiers as contractors of America. Now tell me you think Taliban are going to ignore this? They will attack the Turks as ferociously as they did the Americans because they will rightly see them as American agent/contractors?

To add insult to injury Erdogan is inviting his brother Victor Orban of Hungary to also join the Turks. Now I am sure you all have and trust me Taliban certainly will have heard the views of Victor Orban and his hatred of Muslims.

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Turkey seeks US aid; Pakistan, Hungary's role to keep troops in Afghanistan

Turkey seeks US aid; Pakistan, Hungary's role to keep troops in Afghanistan

Besides US "diplomatic, logistic and financial assistance," Turkish President Erdogan says Ankara is looking for Pakistan and Hungary's involvement in new mission in Afghanistan following departure of US-led NATO troops.

www.trtworld.com

 

[khansaheeb]

Muslims are there own worst enemies, Turkey have got F 35 problem and Erdogan thinks that's the way to go to please US. Pakistan needs to stay out of all this as putting boots on the ground can only lead to bleed Pakistan. Last time for few dollars we joined war on terror and that ended up burying 70000 loved ones for us. We must respect Afghan sovereignty and it doesn't exclude Kabul airport and let Afghans to settle their scores and bring peace to their land.
It almost feels like we are trying to protect Ghani so he can fly in and out of Afghanistan with guard of honour. Its not our place to be their and we are walking into this quagmire as Turkey wants to be their to be relevant. How will we feel if NATO walks in and take over Islamabad airport and their will be plenty of bro's will make noises but if we are going that route then its no different.

Gotta disagree with you there: " We must respect Afghan sovereignty ".

Goal is to unify Pakistan and Afghanistan into one country.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Goal is to unify Pakistan and Afghanistan into one country.

Resurrect the Durrani Empire.

 

[EasyNow]

Devils lie in the details!! And, you slay the Sheyatin with the Zulfikar of Iman, Ihlas and Akl....

what are you talking about? This is a clear cut power grab in Afghanistan. What kind of devil are you to describe it as if it's an act of devotion?

As usual, Muslims using Islam to exploit other Muslims.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Goal is to unify Pakistan and Afghanistan into one country.

That is the end game; but there is much more to come before that.

 

[Behram Khilji]

We will support our Turkish brothers through thick and thin if they remain in Afghanistan.

We will support our kin & Kith against all those who came here as an occupying force, regardless if they were Muslim or non Muslim.

Turkey came with the crusaders, turkey is an enemy of our kin & Kith hence our enemy.

 

[Behram Khilji]

Let the Afghans sort out their own mess. World should keep out and just trade with them. Enough of this meddling in Afghanistan because of it's " strategic location". Afghans have suffered enough and have been bombed by most of the Western world for decades and each of the NATO and non-NATO countries who were involved should pay reparation.

We feel their pain as we are they & they are us, don't expect that from Turkey & rest of Pakistan, for them it's interests while fir us it's our blood.

 

[mudas777]

Gotta disagree with you there: " We must respect Afghan sovereignty ".

Goal is to unify Pakistan and Afghanistan into one country.

Lets put this idea to both side of the divide and and let people of both countries decide peacefully. One doesn't goes into any one house and takes over one of his/her room as we are neighbours. We are criticizing Israeli's and then doing the same ourselves, why is that as we are Muslims and they are Jews and where are the principles?

 

[Behram Khilji]

Gotta disagree with you there: " We must respect Afghan sovereignty ".

Goal is to unify Pakistan and Afghanistan into one country.

I don't think Afghans would do that, nor would we want them to do that, they will become a minority like their kin on this side.

Better to be poor & independent then a second class citizen.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

In fact, the top Turkish analysts, close to the government, also don't want the Turkish presence under the NATO at any pretext. It's like taking a position against the dominant forces inside Afghanistan, not to mention Russia and China. The Afghan war, in its current form, isn't Turkey's war. In fact the NATO is trying 24/7 to unseat Erdo'an...

As for Turkey, the most important country in that region is Pak. Turkey needs to strengthen Pak's position as much as possible..

Hence, a comprehensive agreement with the concerned quarters in Afghanistan is required for a "hybrid" presence...