PLAN Third Type 052C Luyang II class DDG launched

[CardSharp]

Of course, Slavs are the genetic descendants of the original steppe Aryans, but what makes you so special even you are an Aryan?

Historically, the steppe Aryans got their a$$es kicked by many different groups of people. First by Huns/Turks/Mongols who just overran the steppe Scythians and raped their women.

In modern time, USSR got their a$$es handled by the American Yankees who are just the descendants of some Non-Aryan neolithic farmers.

There are countless time that Aryans got defeated by Non-Aryan people, so Aryans are not superior at all.

Pretty sure Hitler would have something to say about Russians being aryans.

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[mnd]

Where did you get that from?

How does a engine support a radar?

On fighters, electricity power output for radars and avionics is produced by the engine. A new AESA requieres much more power and you need modified engines. This is very basic knowledge.

 

[AerospaceEngineer]

[*]1528694]No, "WS-10G" type of engine, if it really exists, it's only for testing purposes, an engine's thrust can be always increased, but it cannot be suitable to real operations, it's reliability and service life do not allow it (AL-31 thrust was increased like 2 tonnes, but just
[/LIST]for research)

117S is gen 4+ (new components) and it's fully operational. For first stage j-20 china signed a contract for modernised Al-31FN, chinese variant, wich supports chinese new radar.

NOPE, WS-10G will be used for J-10B!! It EXIST!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_WS-10#Variants

You are a Russian, who dont want to see China become 100% independent from Russia. But it already happen!! And it is NOT coming back.

 

[CardSharp]

NOPE, WS-10G will be used for J-10B!!

You are a Russian, who dont want to see China become 100% independent from Russia. But it already happen!! And it is NOT coming back.

Please for the love of god stop changing the text size and colour.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I mean how can a improved AL31 lift something the size of the J 20 in around 400 meters with no afterburner?

Its ridiculous.

WS-10G is only slightly inferior to F-119 with slightly less afterburner thrust and shorter lifespan.

F-119 also has lower bypass ratio which can lead the better supercruising performance.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Pretty sure Hitler would have something to say about Russians being aryans.

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Germans are fake Aryans and Hitler has the ancestry of the Ashkenazi Jew.

It is true that Nazi Germany has hijacked the Aryan identity of the Slavic people, but i still can't see what makes Aryan so superior.

 

[AerospaceEngineer]

On fighters, electricity power output for radars and avionics is produced by the engine. A new AESA requieres much more power and you need modified engines. This is very basic knowledge.

WRONG AGAIN!!!

AESA uses far less power than PESA. Russia's radar is inferior to USA, that is why the BARS radar is so heavy that SU-30MKI needs carnard to boost its frontal lift!! EVEN your Irbis-radar use a LOT of energy 5 KM.

But AESA being much more powerful than PESA actually uses less power!!

Here is the quote to prove it!!!

"AESAs are also much more reliable than either a PESA or older designs. Since each module operates independently of the others, single failures have little effect on the operation of the system as a whole. Additionally, the modules individually operate at low powers, perhaps 40 to 60 watts, so the need for a large high-voltage power supply is eliminated"

Quote source:

Active Electronically Scanned Array - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[mnd]

Of course, Slavs are the genetic descendants of the original steppe Aryans, but what makes you so special even you are an Aryan?

Historically, the steppe Aryans got their a$$es kicked by many different groups of people. First by Huns/Turks/Mongols who just overran the steppe Scythians and raped their women.

In modern time, USSR got their a$$es handled by the American Yankees who are just the descendants of some Non-Aryan neolithic farmers.

There are countless time that Aryans got defeated by Non-Aryan people, so Aryans are not superior at all.

Aryans were people known as Indoeuropeans wich dominated Europe, they divided and each one evolved in a different ethnicity. If you refer to slavs, they were not defeated by mongoles. They came after kievan russia desintegrated and forced them to pay tributes. They were later expelled.

 

[no_name]

Aryans are not special people, they just expanded early because of their mastering of horse travel and chariot fighting. Against other later horse riding normads they have no special advantages.

Spread of chariots, dates in BC.

 

[CardSharp]

Aryans are not special people, they just expanded early because of their mastering of horse travel and chariot fighting. Against other horse riding normads they have no special advantages.

It's the archetypal prehistorical battle. Farmers can support more people per size of land but nomades often had the edge when it came to fighting ability.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Aryans were people known as Indoeuropeans wich dominated Europe, they divided and each one evolved in a different ethnicity. If you refer to slavs, they were not defeated by mongoles. They came after kievan russia desintegrated and forced them to pay tributes. They were later expelled.

Europe was dominated by Neolithic farmers who carry the R1b marker. Aryan carry the R1a marker which is mostly prevalent in Eastern Europe and some part of Central Asia.

Yankees are only linguistically Indo-European, but genetically they are not Aryan like Slavs.

The first wave of Aryans were Scythians, which expanded into Siberia, even into Mongolia. Later they got defeated by some Turkic tribes, some were killed and assimilated, some got fled back to Eastern Europe. How can you say that they were never defeated?

Russians were the second wave of the Aryan people expanded into Siberia after thousand years of the collapse of the Scythian Empire.

 

[AerospaceEngineer]

Get back to topic, lets not talk about Aryans. It got nothing to do with 052C!


Thank you.

 

[no_name]

You can hit your opponent but he has a hard time chasing you.
But against walled cities they can't do much, it's the people living on open lands that have to suffer.\
btw I don't think the indus valley ruins city have walls.

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Get back to topic, lets not talk about Aryans. It got nothing to do with 052C!


Thank you.

Aye sire. Aye.

 

[mnd]

WRONG AGAIN!!!

AESA uses far less power than PESA. Russia's radar is inferior to USA, that is why the BARS radar is so heavy that SU-30MKI needs carnard to boost its frontal lift!! EVEN your Irbis-radar use a LOT of energy 5 KM.

But AESA being much more powerful than PESA actually uses less power!!

Here is the quote to prove it!!!
"AESAs are also much more reliable than either a PESA or older designs. Since each module operates independently of the others, single failures have little effect on the operation of the system as a whole. Additionally, the modules individually operate at low powers, perhaps 40 to 60 watts, so the need for a large high-voltage power supply is eliminated"

Quote source:

Active Electronically Scanned Array - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Again you are using wikipedia (!) without even knowing the subject, and that wiki statement is of another context. Fighter AESAs need more power than Pesa's (Raptor Apg-77, average 6kw, max 16kw) Pesa's also need less power to achieve the same. The Irbis-e has better range than the Apg-77.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Get back to topic, lets not talk about Aryans. It got nothing to do with 052C!


Thank you.

We have to finish the business with our Russian friend, then we can go back into topic.