PLA plays down Indian Ocean visits, but says ocean not India's backyard

[HariPrasad]

Send your submarine to SCS and show them who's the boss.

forget about Subs, our warship goes to SCS and petrol it. CHina can not stop us.

 

[Echo_419]

Send your submarine to SCS and show them who's the boss.

Or next time they dare to cross the indian ocean, just .....

Just saying.

Our warships regurarly visit South China Sea

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Love the rant there

Andaman Islands will be a prime target to be neutralised by thousands of cruise and ballistic missiles fired from air,land, ship and submarine. What makes the Andamans useful is also it's major vulnerability - it cannot move like a CBG and so will be a sitting duck against the many thousands of missiles that China will fire to neutralise it.

I think that you are not thinking of the implications of what will happen if you try to attack a Chinese CBG - China will let loose the gloves and use it's HUGE military advantage to flatten India wherever it chooses. Stop being so nationalistic and think that you are any match for China that is only 10-15 years away from joining the US as the next superpower.

Chinese CBGs will, in next decade, have an almost permanent presence in IOR and they will be welcomed by Pakistan, BD and Sri Lanka in order to bring stability to South Asia.

First know what you are talking about before ranting.
China's ballistic missile arsenal is concentrated in second artillery corps.
Latest US DoD reports put estimates at -
ICBM & SLBM - Now these are nuclear weapon carriers primarily targeted at usa and not for conventional duty.They are china's defense against huge usa nuclear arsenal.

• DF-41 - 12 +
  
• DF-31 - 60~
• DF-5 - 40
• DF-4 - 20
• JL-2 - 48 ~
  
• JL-1 - 12

Now we come to what ur talking abt the IRBMs and SRBMs that u claim will be fired in thousands in conventional role to flatten india.

• DF-3A - Retired
• DF-4 - 60
• DF-21A - 200
• DF-21D Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile - 100 ~

Above have range to cover andaman from chinese mainland -so its 200 and 60 missiles.

So ur thousand argument really just rest ofn the following -

• DF-11 - 1000+
• DF-15 - 500+

Unfortunately ur jamati logic failed to take into account that none of these have the range to reach andaman.
Second thing almost the entire SRBM arsenal is concentrated on china coast targeting taiwan .Any mass redeployment easily picked up by satellite.
So china only have 250 odd IRBMS to fire actually.

Finally ballistic missiles used in conventional role are not some gods of destruction.Iraq fired hundreds of scuds in conventional role into iranian cities,while they killed quite a few people they hardly 'flattened' anything.In gulf war too when scuds hit an american barracks they killed 28 soldiers thats it -the most succesful attack.Anyway facilities /runway damaged can be easily repaired in a day or 2 if attack is not non stop.Thats why physical aircraft is still indispensable.Also against hardened shelters/targets ur missiles are completely useless.You would need heavy bunker busters from aircraft to crack those.

Finally these IRBMS are nuclear capable and covver all major indian cities.Any mass firing coming from chinese mainland and indian strategic high command picking up the missile launches will respond will a nuclear strike of its own.Because mass firing of this kind will be interpreted as an attempt to knock out india strike capability with a surprise attack and so no command can take the risk of being rendered near defenceless and knowing whether the missiles are nuke tipped or not.Result nuclear armageddon.

Now to ur next point,in a war china already has gone all out lol.Thats why task force is coming to IOR.And no china can't flatten india at all.It can bleed us at a very high cost to itself.This is not 1962 where 10000 surprised troops with bolt action rifles facing 80000 troops with assault rifles.Ball is in china's court whether it wants india as a permanent enemy or not.Till now we have not joined us coalition againts chian with japan.USA will be more glad than anyone for us to go full in with them and complete the encirclement of china for good.How would china like us drones and subs having berthing facilities in andaman and total data sharing on chinese naval movements etc( we already share chinese submarine data in IOR).Choice is actually china's.Does it want to make a permanent enemy of india?For india to complete the encirclement of china?

Over the next decade IOR will see india taking a more expanded role in naval affairs,china can carry on with occasional port calls we don't mind.Militarily IOR is our backyard whether u like it or not.Only USN can change that,not PLAN.PLAN better worry about the samurai who are far better trained and have far greater naval tradition.Hopefully not like the last time when china navy faced the samurai they lost their HUGE navy of big steel battleships to cruisers and torpedo boats and in such a manner that the admirality office in beijing had to be abolished,lol.

 

[Heinz Guderian]

India was shocked when PLAN submarines docked in Karachi. IN didn't even know PLAN entered Indian territorial waters until Indian media reported it. Not only Pakistan but Maldives welcomes Chinese submarines. After so much boasting by India, China contains you with our string of pearls. When the elephant tried to show the dragon its muscle, PLA attacked in Chumar and forced the Indians into retreat. Now we veto your NSG application and UN security council application. Showing your boasting is all hot air just like your fake economic statistics.

Tell me which newspaper cracked this news with which sources ? You guys are so much ignorant.

 

[BuddhaPalm]

Tell me which newspaper cracked this news with which sources ? You guys are so much ignorant.

The source is PDF

Chineese Yuan Class Submarine Went Through Indian Territorial Waters Undetected

 

[Heinz Guderian]

The source is PDF

Chineese Yuan Class Submarine Went Through Indian Territorial Waters Undetected

Bro, India Today cracked the news, with Indian Navy sources.

Actually it was LiveFist.

 

[UKBengali]

@AUSTERLITZ :

Dream as much as you like but China, BD and Pakistan will box in India as soon
as China develops 3/4 carrier groups. By 2030 even the US would have to leave
Asia as China would become far too powerful in Asia.

India should focus on feeding it's starving masses rather than aircraft carriers.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

@AUSTERLITZ :

Dream as much as you like but China, BD and Pakistan will box in India as soon
as China develops 3/4 carrier groups. By 2030 even the US would have to leave
Asia as China would become far too powerful in Asia.

India should focus on feeding it's starving masses rather than aircraft carriers.

Run out of any arguments,now spewing general rants.If u can refute my last post before this.

 

[jung41]

Ha sare world ke oceans ka theeka to China ne he le rakha hai