PLA plays down Indian Ocean visits, but says ocean not India's backyard

[AUSTERLITZ]

This is not a Chinese "rant".

China has an economy FIVE time the size of India. This means that it can come to IOR region and literally bully India in it's own backyard.

Within a decade, expect huge Chinese CBGs to be prowling the waters around India to make sure that India behaves itself.

Nah,one because the economy gap is going to close as it has already begun.Right now we have 2 carriers and china 1.It will take china another decade to get more carriers operational.China's navy size advantage is neutralized by the fact that its light ships and diesel subs which are bulk of its underwater fleet don't have range to operate in IOR.
Finally the biggest reason PLAN has no chance in IOR is our unsinkable carrier andaman guarding it.Andaman is india's greatest naval strategic asset.Only USN can bully anyone anywhere if it wants,PLAN is little fish in IOR.Deal with it.

 

[anant_s]

Nah,one because the economy gap is going to close as it has already begun.Right now we have 2 carriers and china 1.It will take china another decade to get more carriers operational.China's navy size advantage is neutralized by the fact that its light ships and diesel subs which are bulk of its underwater fleet don't have range to operate in IOR.
Finally the biggest reason PLAN has no chance in IOR is our unsinkable carrier andaman guarding it.Andaman is india's greatest naval strategic asset.Only USN can bully anyone anywhere if it wants,PLAN is little fish in IOR.Deal with it.

Well Said.
Even if China gets 4-5 CBGs in operation, it won't put them all in one single IOR theater. & even for AC having 20-25K nautical mile range, you do need some sort of maintenance port in the region and i can't foresee which one other than if Gwadar is being used to berth some such ACs.
India on the other hand has a huge benefit of having A&N islands, so as far as AC game goes, for same number of AC (for IN and PLAAN), India has an advantage.
Planners on Indian side would however need to consider and formulate some kind of strategy for countering Chinese N Subs. I don't know how many and what type of N subs are present in our region of interest, but surely with P8i, we aren't in that bad a condition as some reports suggest.
Therefore it isn't a hyperbole when we say that India has considerable influence in IOR even if not say its our backyard.

 

[SrNair]

funny, did you read the article? The Chinese admiral was calm like usual. No ranting there. Just pure logic. Hard for indians to understand . Indians have the biggest mouth and your media know it.


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Biggest mouths ??
That is because of your low vision eyes.
Open your eyes.Widen your gaze.

This is not a Chinese "rant".

China has an economy FIVE time the size of India. This means that it can come to IOR region and literally bully India in it's own backyard.

Within a decade, expect huge Chinese CBGs to be prowling the waters around India to make sure that India behaves itself.

China can churn out hundreds of hollow CBG .But nothing gonna happen here because we have A&N islands in our hand.
I hope you can understand Mr Cheerleader.

Mr Nair. You called me Cheerleader, which i'm not. So in response i called you Nigger, which u r not.

So why so butt hurt?

@waz @Irfan Baloch @Jungibaaz

If that is the case then you should
boast about your nation instead of Chinese.

Otherwise it will known as Cheerleading.
There is no case of butthurt in there.

 

[UKBengali]

Nah,one because the economy gap is going to close as it has already begun.Right now we have 2 carriers and china 1.It will take china another decade to get more carriers operational.China's navy size advantage is neutralized by the fact that its light ships and diesel subs which are bulk of its underwater fleet don't have range to operate in IOR.
Finally the biggest reason PLAN has no chance in IOR is our unsinkable carrier andaman guarding it.Andaman is india's greatest naval strategic asset.Only USN can bully anyone anywhere if it wants,PLAN is little fish in IOR.Deal with it.

LOL - 1% extra GDP/growth a year will mean nothing for many, many decades - and do not ASSUME that India will ever become developed like China surely will. India may get to middle-income levels but that is about it.

China will have many massive aircraft carriers by 2025 and each one will be as powerful as all the aircraft carriers that India possess then.

As for Andaman Islands, each Type-55 cruiser will carry many hundreds of SAMs to care of whatever number of aircraft can be based there.

Type-95 SSNs are currently being built and they will be sent to escort the carriers and other surface ships.

Chinese CBGs are likely to dock for resupply in Pakistan first but we shall also see BD playing host to the fleets as well, since both Pakistan and BD have an interest in keeping India quiet.

With Pakistan and BD as allies, India is sure to start getting bullied in the IOR region soon. Keep your head down and you will be left alone - talk loud and get slapped around.

 

[BuddhaPalm]

Chinese submarines entered Indian territorial water and India did not even notice. Now we tell Indians they have no business in the Indian Ocean. The string of pearls is tightening around Indian neck.

 

[ares]

Chinese submarines entered Indian territorial water and India did not even notice. Now we tell Indians they have no business in the Indian Ocean. The string of pearls is tightening around Indian neck.

How do you know..submarine entered Indian territorial waters..do you have submarine's logbook?

If India did not even notice, then who printed this news?

A String of pearls is weak string that can be broken on applying little pressure...you saw how easy it was for us to chuck you out of Sri Lanka.

Where as you have hangman's noose tightening around your neck ..almost all your neighbors are becoming increasingly hostile..every passing year..because of you expansionist policies..you have super power at your doorstep..waiting for you to just step out of line..plus your economy is slowing down.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Pakistan needs more ships and nuclear submarines to protect its territorial sea and monitor shipping from the Persian Gulf. The Pakistan navy need fighters for its Naval Air Force.

 

[Suman]

This is not a Chinese "rant".

China has an economy FIVE time the size of India. This means that it can come to IOR region and literally bully India in it's own backyard.

Within a decade, expect huge Chinese CBGs to be prowling the waters around India to make sure that India behaves itself.

China

Age structure 0-14 years: 17.1% (male 124,340,516/female 107,287,324)
15-24 years: 14.7% (male 105,763,058/female 93,903,845)
25-54 years: 47.2% (male 327,130,324/female 313,029,536)
55-64 years: 11.3% (male 77,751,100/female 75,737,968)
65 years and over: 9.6% (male 62,646,075/female 68,102,830) (2014 est.) 0-14 years: 28.5% (male 187,016,401/female 165,048,695)

India

0-14 years: 28.5% (male 187,016,401/female 165,048,695)
15-24 years: 18.1% (male 118,696,540/female 105,342,764)
25-54 years: 40.6% (male 258,202,535/female 243,293,143)
55-64 years: 7% (male 43,625,668/female 43,175,111)
65 years and over: 5.8% (male 34,133,175/female 37,810,599) (2014 est.)


by this way, China will slow down very soon. Don't get hurt man.

 

[BuddhaPalm]

How do you know..submarine entered Indian territorial waters..do you have submarine's logbook?

If India did not even notice, then who printed this news?

A String of pearls is weak string that can be broken on applying little pressure...you saw how easy it was for us to chuck you out of Sri Lanka.

Where as you have hangman's noose tightening around your neck ..almost all your neighbors are becoming increasingly hostile..every passing year..because of you expansionist policies..you have super power at your doorstep..waiting for you to just step out of line..plus your economy is slowing down.

India was shocked when PLAN submarines docked in Karachi. IN didn't even know PLAN entered Indian territorial waters until Indian media reported it. Not only Pakistan but Maldives welcomes Chinese submarines. After so much boasting by India, China contains you with our string of pearls. When the elephant tried to show the dragon its muscle, PLA attacked in Chumar and forced the Indians into retreat. Now we veto your NSG application and UN security council application. Showing your boasting is all hot air just like your fake economic statistics.

 

[ares]

India was shocked when PLAN submarines docked in Karachi. IN didn't even know PLAN entered Indian territorial waters until Indian media reported it. Not only Pakistan but Maldives welcomes Chinese submarines. After so much boasting by India, China contains you with our string of pearls. When the elephant tried to show the dragon its muscle, PLA attacked in Chumar and forced the Indians into retreat. Now we veto your NSG application and UN security council application. Showing your boasting is all hot air just like your fake economic statistics.

You still did not answer the question ..how do you know the submarine entered Indian territorial waters?

Do you even know what territorial waters mean??..perhaps get english to Mandarin dictionary and look it up.

 

[Echo_419]

Both SCS and Indian Ocean are currently US backyards.

QUOTEdamm you

How do you know..submarine entered Indian territorial waters..do you have submarine's logbook?

If India did not even notice, then who printed this news?

A String of pearls is weak string that can be broken on applying little pressure...you saw how easy it was for us to chuck you out of Sri Lanka.

Where as you have hangman's noose tightening around your neck ..almost all your neighbors are becoming increasingly hostile..every passing year..because of you expansionist policies..you have super power at your doorstep..waiting for you to just step out of line..plus your economy is slowing down.

Let them live in their lala land(BDeshis).srsly of anyone thinks they can mess with us in pur backyard he is dead wrong

 

[BuddhaPalm]

You still did not answer the question ..how do you know the submarine entered Indian territorial waters?

Do you even know what territorial waters mean??..perhaps get english to Mandarin dictionary and look it up.

Chineese Yuan Class Submarine Went Through Indian Territorial Waters Undetected

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

LOL - 1% extra GDP/growth a year will mean nothing for many, many decades - and do not ASSUME that India will ever become developed like China surely will. India may get to middle-income levels but that is about it.

China will have many massive aircraft carriers by 2025 and each one will be as powerful as all the aircraft carriers that India possess then.

As for Andaman Islands, each Type-55 cruiser will carry many hundreds of SAMs to care of whatever number of aircraft can be based there.

Type-95 SSNs are currently being built and they will be sent to escort he carriers and other surface ships.

Chinese CBGs are likely to dock for resupply in Pakistan first but we shall also see BD playing host to the fleets as well, since both Pakistan and BD have an interest in keeping India quiet.

With Pakistan and BD as allies, India is sure to start getting bullied in the IOR region soon. Keep your head down and you will be left alone - talk loud and get slapped around.

1% extra GDP.Lol,seen the chinese stock market lately?3 trillion dollars wiped out already and going.China bubble burst has just begun.2% of chinese gdp is manipulated and now its coming down on them -the empty towns ,fail investments.

Blah blah blah....wake me up when it gets ONE indigeneous carrier.Their refloated casino breaks down in south china sea.Either ship is shit or chinese naval crews are shit.Our first indigeneous carrier coming earlier than china.And our next carriers will have latest us tech.

Lol.When the missile barrage starts from underwater,land,air,sea surface and air ..where will ur type 55 hide?
With brahmos mini each sukhoi 30mki can slavo lauch 3 brahmos.One sukhoi squadron can launch 54 in one go.And mig-29k can too.
Poseidons will launch subsonic stealthy harpoons,directly opposite of brahmos.
From our surface ships will come klubs and brahmos.
From underwtare klubs and exocets.Not to mention our submarine fleet waiting in ambush in the shallow waters around the straits which is when diesel suba are the deadliest because they turn their batteries off and just wait for prey on seabed.

China has 5 SSNs of any value in IOR operations.Wake me up when they about 25-30.We can use our entire diesel sub fleet in indian ocean,china only nuke subs which are noisier.We can use ground based anti sub patrol aircraft,not china.We can use anti submarine corvettes in IOR,not china due to range.

LoL,they can only dock in BD/pak if IN allows them to pass through andmana nicobar region unmolested and enter IOR.Chinese naval taskforce will be eliminated before that around andaman.We will graciously allow the tattered survivors to take refuge in BD,Pak if they can make it .

IN is the big dog in IOR,deal with it.Only USN can bully us,and they can bully anyone anywhere if they want to.
As for challenging us in naval arena in IOR (btw our coast guard can deal with ur navy) i'm going to give u your own advice -Keep your head down and you will be left alone - talk loud and get slapped around.

 

[UKBengali]

1% extra GDP.Lol,seen the chinese stock market lately?3 trillion dollars wiped out already and going.China bubble burst has just begun.2% of chinese gdp is manipulated and now its coming down on them -the empty towns ,fail investments.

Blah blah blah....wake me up when it gets ONE indigeneous carrier.Their refloated casino breaks down in south china sea.Either ship is shit or chinese naval crews are shit.Our first indigeneous carrier coming earlier than china.And our next carriers will have latest us tech.

Lol.When the missile barrage starts from underwater,land,air,sea surface and air ..where will ur type 55 hide?
With brahmos mini each sukhoi 30mki can slavo lauch 3 brahmos.One sukhoi squadron can launch 54 in one go.And mig-29k can too.
Poseidons will launch subsonic stealthy harpoons,directly opposite of brahmos.
From our surface ships will come klubs and brahmos.
From underwtare klubs and exocets.Not to mention our submarine fleet waiting in ambush in the shallow waters around the straits which is when diesel suba are the deadliest because they turn their batteries off and just wait for prey on seabed.

China has 5 SSNs of any value in IOR operations.Wake me up when they about 25-30.We can use our entire diesel sub fleet in indian ocean,china only nuke subs which are noisier.We can use ground based anti sub patrol aircraft,not china.We can use anti submarine corvettes in IOR,not china due to range.

LoL,they can only dock in BD/pak if IN allows them to pass through andmana nicobar region unmolested and enter IOR.Chinese naval taskforce will be eliminated before that around andaman.We will graciously allow the tattered survivors to take refuge in BD,Pak if they can make it .

IN is the big dog in IOR,deal with it.Only USN can bully us,and they can bully anyone anywhere if they want to.
As for challenging us in naval arena in IOR (btw our coast guard can deal with ur navy) i'm going to give u your own advice -Keep your head down and you will be left alone - talk loud and get slapped around.

Love the rant there

Andaman Islands will be a prime target to be neutralised by thousands of cruise and ballistic missiles fired from air,land, ship and submarine. What makes the Andamans useful is also it's major vulnerability - it cannot move like a CBG and so will be a sitting duck against the many thousands of missiles that China will fire to neutralise it.

I think that you are not thinking of the implications of what will happen if you try to attack a Chinese CBG - China will let loose the gloves and use it's HUGE military advantage to flatten India wherever it chooses. Stop being so nationalistic and think that you are any match for China that is only 10-15 years away from joining the US as the next superpower.

Chinese CBGs will, in next decade, have an almost permanent presence in IOR and they will be welcomed by Pakistan, BD and Sri Lanka in order to bring stability to South Asia.

 

[ares]

Chineese Yuan Class Submarine Went Through Indian Territorial Waters Undetected

It is thread created by a Pakistani, without a link!!

So believable .