Philippine warship in stand-off with China vessels

[Jihad]

You have no idea how powerful we already are. We are lighyears ahead of india our mutual neighbor for example. We are the #1 economy by PPP already and within 5 years we'll be the #1 economy in nominal terms. Chinese technology including military technology is ahead of Russia and on par in many fields (a growing number) with the West and Japan.

Now is the time to break out and smash the snake! I hope Pakistan is ready to deliver the coup de grace on the snake after we weaken and defang it!

I love your patriotism and down to earth approach, straight to business.
You're a man who speaks with confident words, knowing that there is absolutely nobody on this planet to stand in the Chinese juggernauts way, and the funny thing is, the juggernaut keeps growing in size and strength.

Considering China's mammoth economy, status and size, it's a miracle they've been quite laid back and "soft" if I may say so in world politics, perhaps the Chinese leaders are waiting for the right time to flex their muscles?

I mean, let us not talk as if China is a major aggressor here.
Imagine what the U.S. would have done if some "lesser" nation in size and stature would have criticized their blue water navy or control of the seas? Either ignore or completely destroy them.
*cough* U.S. ships in the Persian Gulf *cough* Iran *cough* tensions anyone?

I'm afraid the Phillipines have absolutely zero chance, the strongest survive, and if China wants it, they get it, one way or another.

 

[USAHawk785]

I doubt the Chinese Government will risk starting a war with a country that is so much weaker then they. International support, right now, is with the Philippines. Come now, let's get real.

 

[jez camp]

you don't know Philipino courage.

 

[amalakas]

You have no idea how powerful we already are. We are lighyears ahead of india our mutual neighbor for example. We are the #1 economy by PPP already and within 5 years we'll be the #1 economy in nominal terms. Chinese technology including military technology is ahead of Russia and on par in many fields (a growing number) with the West and Japan.

Now is the time to break out and smash the snake! I hope Pakistan is ready to deliver the coup de grace on the snake after we weaken and defang it!

To be honest, I think the west knows. It is you who don't really know. I'll give it to you simple. You are overestimating yourselves. National pride and all.. but take it down a notch

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

chinese are good in bullying the small countries like PH coz they know our countries dont have the capabilities . Why dont you try to challenge the big ones. like UK or US and i think theres no more sunshine to you bastards chinese

Before PRC was even established, PLA forces bombed a UK destroyer in the Yangtze River. Britain became the first Western country to recognize the PRC.

In 1950, we warned the US to keep south of the 38th parallel. They did not listen, and we did not warn again. In 1951, Chinese troops entered Seoul. In the course of the war, the population of Seoul was reduced to less than 50000.

This proves that chinese have cockroach-sized brains and they can be categorized to apes and monkeys hahaha.. Try to use your eyes dickhead chinese.

you know chinese are studying in our country because they are noob in english speaking and they know that we are good in english. that noob chinese who speaks with their language is like speaking alien words. hahahah

haha do you want that filipino will send you its biggest secret weapon??? " the love virus" hahah all of your hardworks will end up in "your files are corrupted" hahah no more technology chinese!!! hahaha made in china.. And the international news will report like this " Chinese Military defense has been destroyeed by a Computer Virus? " hahah

The only love viruses Chinese are getting from Filipinos is not due to computers, but from certain entertainment centers in Manila and Angeles City. I do hope you can reduce the number of love viruses in the Philippines. It is a public health menace.

 

[SinoChallenger]

I love your patriotism and down to earth approach, straight to business.

You're a man who speaks with confident words, knowing that there is absolutely nobody on this planet to stand in the Chinese juggernauts way, and the funny thing is, the juggernaut keeps growing in size and strength.

Considering China's mammoth economy, status and size, it's a miracle they've been quite laid back and "soft" if I may say so in world politics, perhaps the Chinese leaders are waiting for the right time to flex their muscles?

China has not fought a major war since 1980, more than 33 years. But between 1949 and 1980, we defeated USA in the Korean War, we defeated india in the 1962 border skirmish, we defeated USA in the Vietnam War, we defeated the Soviet Union in the 1969 border skirmish and we defeated Vietnam in the 1979 border war. We took this opportunity to build our economy and look now within 5 years we'll be #1 in total GDP but merely a middle income country in per capita GDP.

I mean, let us not talk as if China is a major aggressor here.
Imagine what the U.S. would have done if some "lesser" nation in size and stature would have criticized their blue water navy or control of the seas? Either ignore or completely destroy them.
*cough* U.S. ships in the Persian Gulf *cough* Iran *cough* tensions anyone?

Back in USA's early history, it fought the Spanish Empire for control of the Carribean and also fought the British Empire for the North Atlantic. China is doing the same thing: we are casting our influence over our peripheral region and forcing out hostile foreign superpowers.

China is naturally the dominant power in East Asia, has been this way for most of the last 5000 years. Philippines and Vietnam cannot try to deal with China as if we are a small / mid-sized country like they are. And even more laughable, they cannot try to bully China by trying to bring in USA or india into the South China Sea dispute. That would never work because we would spank them hard!

South China Sea is simply China's Carribean. Philippines is like Cuba. Vietnam is like Mexico.

I'm afraid the Phillipines have absolutely zero chance, the strongest survive, and if China wants it, they get it, one way or another.

Originally, China only wanted to have 51% share. Now that Vietnam and Philippines crossed the line, China will take away their share completely!

To be honest, I think the west knows. It is you who don't really know. I'll give it to you simple. You are overestimating yourselves. National pride and all.. but take it down a notch

Confucius says: "True gold is not afraid to be tested."
Let's begin the examination to see if China has what it takes to be superpower of East Asia!

 

[USAHawk785]

China has not fought a major war since 1980, more than 33 years. But between 1949 and 1980, we defeated USA in the Korean War, we defeated india in the 1962 border skirmish, we defeated USA in the Vietnam War, we defeated the Soviet Union in the 1969 border skirmish and we defeated Vietnam in the 1979 border war. We took this opportunity to build our economy and look now within 5 years we'll be #1 in total GDP but merely a middle income country in per capita GDP.



Back in USA's early history, it fought the Spanish Empire for control of the Carribean and also fought the British Empire for the North Atlantic. China is doing the same thing: we are casting our influence over our peripheral region and forcing out hostile foreign superpowers.

China is naturally the dominant power in East Asia, has been this way for most of the last 5000 years. Philippines and Vietnam cannot try to deal with China as if we are a small / mid-sized country like they are. And even more laughable, they cannot try to bully China by trying to bring in USA or india into the South China Sea dispute. That would never work because we would spank them hard!

South China Sea is simply China's Carribean. Philippines is like Cuba. Vietnam is like Mexico.



Originally, China only wanted to have 51% share. Now that Vietnam and Philippines crossed the line, China will take away their share completely!



Confucius says: "True gold is not afraid to be tested."
Let's begin the examination to see if China has what it takes to be superpower of East Asia!

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool......than to speak out and erase all doubt.

–Abraham Lincoln

 

[hoangsa]

China has not fought a major war since 1980, more than 33 years. But between 1949 and 1980, we defeated USA in the Korean War, we defeated india in the 1962 border skirmish, we defeated USA in the Vietnam War, we defeated the Soviet Union in the 1969 border skirmish and we defeated Vietnam in the 1979 border war.

You China defeated this, defeated that....ha..ha..dreaming and your brain be scramed too much from your own media. Do you know Chinese famous tatics " Flood of people " in war ? your men price is so cheap that your commander like to push forward thousands of men, millions of young & stupid soldiers to gain advantage in battle. In Korean war, you won US...ha..ha...I read 1 US soldier die to kill over 100 Chinese soldier die. You call that is you won. ..ha...ha..

Using tatics " Flood of people " with more powerful enemy. I understand, but in 1979 War with Vietnam, a weaker army, you still use your favorite barbarian tatics " Flood of people " and you were killed so much in the border, we still have a very big cemetery buring all poor Chinese soldiers. Your human loss was so huge that your leaders were forced to review and fix the whole army systemThen you say Chinese won ??? ha..ha...Brainwashed guy. You engage in battle again and you will know. We are ready. Philipino and US are ready, Japanese too, Indian more than ready

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

You China defeated this, defeated that....ha..ha..dreaming and your brain be scramed too much from your own media. Do you know Chinese famous tatics " Flood of people " in war ? your men price is so cheap that your commander like to push forward thousands of men, millions of young & stupid soldiers to gain advantage in battle. In Korean war, you won US...ha..ha...I read 1 US soldier die to kill over 100 Chinese soldier die. You call that is you won. ..ha...ha..

Using tatics " Flood of people " with more powerful enemy. I understand, but in 1979 War with Vietnam, a weaker army, you still use your favorite barbarian tatics " Flood of people " and you were killed so much in the border, we still have a very big cemetery buring all poor Chinese soldiers. Your human loss was so huge that your leaders were forced to review and fix the whole army systemThen you say Chinese won ??? ha..ha...Brainwashed guy. You engage in battle again and you will know. We are ready. Philipino and US are ready, Japanese too, Indian more than ready

US:China death ratios were 1:3 to 1:8 in the Korean War, depending on whose statistics you use. However, because US forces were in constant retreat, they couldn't even count the number of actual Chinese killed.

US:Vietnam death ratios were 1:60 in the Vietnam War.

 

[S.Y.A]

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

By MATTHEW HICKLEY

When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.


American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.

One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.

The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.


The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.

And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.

According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.

It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence.

Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard".

The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels.

Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors.

Commodore Stephen Saunders, editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and a former Royal Navy anti-submarine specialist, said the U.S. had paid relatively little attention to this form of warfare since the end of the Cold War.

He said: "It was certainly a wake-up call for the Americans.

"It would tie in with what we see the Chinese trying to do, which appears to be to deter the Americans from interfering or operating in their backyard, particularly in relation to Taiwan."

In January China carried a successful missile test, shooting down a satellite in orbit for the first time.

Source: The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced | Mail Online

A 2007 news for those who think that Nato, USA and India can kick the chinese butt, they were not able able to detect Song class subs how the hell will they face the whole PLAN??

 

[USAHawk785]

Source: The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced | Mail Online

A 2007 news for those who think that Nato, USA and India can kick the chinese butt, they were not able able to detect Song class subs how the hell will they face the whole PLAN??

It was a naval exercise involving 1 carrier battle group. Trust me, in a real naval conflict, the PLAN would be erased from history. Without involving nuclear weapons, the PLAN would be neutralized. There is no comparison.

India's Navy, alone, could plow through China's rear behind. Sweet and toasty like warm apple pie.

 

[feilong]

You China defeated this, defeated that....ha..ha..dreaming and your brain be scramed too much from your own media. Do you know Chinese famous tatics " Flood of people " in war ? your men price is so cheap that your commander like to push forward thousands of men, millions of young & stupid soldiers to gain advantage in battle. In Korean war, you won US...ha..ha...I read 1 US soldier die to kill over 100 Chinese soldier die. You call that is you won. ..ha...ha..

Using tatics " Flood of people " with more powerful enemy. I understand, but in 1979 War with Vietnam, a weaker army, you still use your favorite barbarian tatics " Flood of people " and you were killed so much in the border, we still have a very big cemetery buring all poor Chinese soldiers. Your human loss was so huge that your leaders were forced to review and fix the whole army systemThen you say Chinese won ??? ha..ha...Brainwashed guy. You engage in battle again and you will know. We are ready. Philipino and US are ready, Japanese too, Indian more than ready

Hoangsa smoke too much weeds, and thinking he can fly high. Nansa(HOANG sa) and xi sa(truong sa) are belonging to china. This is what Nguyen van thieu the former south Vietnam said. He was trying to rob those island in 1974 when we doing a surveillance. How can you claimed it is your when your south Vietnam president proof it is ours. Why US don't let Iran to built nuke? Because US is ready lol. Why US sanction North Korea when they only built defense military nukes? Because US ready. Lol

 

[S.Y.A]

It was a naval exercise involving 1 carrier battle group. Trust me, in a real naval conflict, the PLAN would be erased from history. Without involving nuclear weapons, the PLAN would be neutralized. There is no comparison.

India's Navy, alone, could plow through China's rear behind. Sweet and toasty like warm apple pie.

and involving ONE chinese SONG class sub and the all the sophisticated US tech was not able to detect it, stop making shitty excuses and accept the reality that your navy is now obsolete

 

[USAHawk785]

and involving ONE chinese SONG class sub and the all the sophisticated US tech was not able to detect it, stop making shitty excuses and accept the reality that your navy is now obsolete

lol, it was a naval exercise, no live fire, don't believe every single news printing you read.

as for obsolete, it is the Pakistani Navy that is obsolete. ridiculous.

China is not even no where near close to the United States Navy, we are leagues above them and the inferior naval power that is Pakistan. India, alone, could be capable of destroying the combined navies of Pakistan and China.

Please, don't try comparing to USN; how naivete.

 

[feilong]

It was a naval exercise involving 1 carrier battle group. Trust me, in a real naval conflict, the PLAN would be erased from history. Without involving nuclear weapons, the PLAN would be neutralized. There is no comparison.

India's Navy, alone, could plow through China's rear behind. Sweet and toasty like warm apple pie.

USHawk785 please proof to everyone here, when the first time in history did the US fought a real war by them self without the NATO? Tell me why US don't fight a fairly war with weak country like Iraq or Libya, while these country are so damn weak? I know you would said international issued, lol. If US is world no. 1 and internationally police. Why a war with weak country like Libya have to get 13-18 nation to get involved? US has lot of advance technology, but have small balls to deal with weak country. Lol how US suppose to deal with Russia, China, North Korea, Iran or Cuba?