Phenomenon that can destroy Pakistani economy !

[Luftwaffe]

This is Thailand
Foreign Exchange Reserves Approximately US 172 Billion dollars (how % of Forex comes from twinks and prostitutes and clubs and foreign tourists but also from genuine exports and businesses, this little Thailand has become an industrial country and funnily they have all the electricity)

This is Pakistan
Foreign Exchange Reserves Approximately $17 billion dollars (2 days off exports targets ruined, corruption in government and defense sector, small/large and every don't want to pay taxes, nobody wants to follow law & rules, artificial loadshedding, low terrible investment in minerals, oil & gas fields and on and on)

Beygharatoon (governments) atleast Forex should have been $60 billion in past 64 years and all Dic.k governments PPP/PML-N/PML-Q/MQM/ANP has their fair share and had put Pakistan into astounding debt and yet they claim to fix the problems of Pakistan each of them is atleast 3 timers, are you people willing to vote for them again and again?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

For Pakistan the 180 Million can only be a blessing if every one paid tax which they don't so by reducing ppl is best way

In 1 generation , 20 years period if we implement 1 child policy , the number of ppl will decrease 50% to 90 million people in Pakistan if its implemented to core

This will reduce burden on economy , burden on health care, more food will be available and cheaper as it will be abundant

What Pakistanis need to learn is how to have a happy family with 1 Child and give that child better education and health care as oppose to have a cricket team 11 kids , and 3 of them die due to malnutrition , and 2 die in accidents

This idea of reproduce like Rabbits - when Mulana xyz had spare time he makes babies does not work in global world

Extra babies and children mean burden on a system that is already on life support

There is no blessing from Allah if you have 10 kids vs 1 kids , what ppl need to understand is its your responsibility if you bring a child in world you need to feed it , educate it and give it best possible chance of survival in real world

I really blame our situation partly on Evolution - our nation just has people who have not evolved with time why do some races and groups become extinct its because they cannot adapt to changes in world , and that is exactly why we see our Nation stuck in same place it was 60 years ago vs looking at Singapore its such a modern state compared to Pakistan

Our people have not evolved over time , as we lack Education , and Brain and technology is really what modern Evolution is all about as a human

NATURE HAS ITS OWN WAY TO REDUCE POPULATION
A ) Virus
B ) Famine
C ) Wars
D ) Water Shortage

Pakistan will face more and more of these challenges due to population out of control

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Assalam alaikum

they have more then one kid if for any reason one dies there will be some one to carry their name ( nasal hi na khatam ho jay )

anyhow interesting topic now i would like only ppl who have only one child to post and tell us how they did it

TARIQ

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Death of only child is a problem , but there is also such thing as Adoption , there are children in orphanage who need a family
and also if the couple is young they can conceive a new child

The notion of "Nassal" etc or lineage I mean its not like the children will be promoted to Kings and Queens its such a superficial aspect

Responsibilities of Parents are

a) Can you provide for children's welfare
b) Can you provide education
c) Can you provide home and shelter

Most families in Pakistan have large families and all children don't get proper education or care or food when they are young
its only because of having 11 children or 12 children in families

We believe that its wonderful to have 12 children and Allah will provide but unfortunately that is why not alot of children finish highschool or even get proper childhood because lack of $$$ in family forces them to work as child laborers

Its common sense one man earns 7,000 Rupees , if he has 1 child there is high chance that that child will have food 3 time s a day vs having 5 kids then all kids will only get perhaps food 2 times a day and even then it will be not enough due to which likely 1-2 children will die in early childhood ages.

Part of reason why European countries have high sense of responsibility is that they have a high % of educated class , and people normally have small families so every child ends up getting better chance to have best of every thing

Now if , we had Oil flowing , and gas flowing and we had GDP 1 Trillion dollars and education rate of 98% then yes by all means have 3-4 children

But at present I think having more then 1 Child is must other wise , Nature has its own way to reduce population

a) War (Civil war)
b) Famine
c) Virus
d) Flood
e) Water shortage

Implementation of 20 year policy on 1 Child will ensure that Population is reduced by 50% with in 1 Generation.

This will reduce load on
a) Hospitals
b) Schools
c) Job creation
d) Government

Mind you 90 Million people is still a BIG BIG BIG number in term of population but its a realistic number

 

[Luftwaffe]

If we don't even have a basic or mid level infrastructure for exploration of minerals like copper gold and silicon, what have we done in the past 6 decades? Is there anyone or any government to accept their wrong doing. We lease equipment from Korea and China for most of our exploration this is deplorable we can't even make these equipment we call our self to be super bumbar Pakistanis with atomic reactors, cruise missiles and other Ballistic Missiles etc and a lot of equipment is developed but don't we know we would be needing equipment for exportation for decades to come and better develop in house then leasing and paying millions of dollars a brilliant example is Iran i can give you numerous examples of Iran and China how today they are the most successful countries.

Aside from this topic do you know how Saudi Arab gets clean water all over Saudi Arab?? A significant investments in seawater desalination.

We bloody hell people should have invested into this area 30 years ago so today Baluchistan would have been getting its water from the Gawadar Area, Sindh would have been getting it from its Sea and the so Punjab and KPK would have been sharring water form those Dams and there would have been all clean water to every household. All I can say is stupid stupid people(Govt)

Salt the largest mines are in Pakistan and our exports sick to know, even if Pakistan exports it for a lowest minimum profit all over the world we'll still make millions and billions how unfortunate.

I remember my father told me that one of electronic companies was opened in Pakistan in mid 80s that was forcibly shut down in 88 by PPP because it did not wanted to give bhata to zardari.

I say tax these hidden companies like plastic bag sellers who are bagging almost millions and billions of rupees these factories are completely unseen and hidden from the eye making enough money tax them, you know why these cannot be taxes currently because they are the source of bhata and tax evasion.

 

[Omar1984]

Pakistan should tax the rich. The last time I was in Pakistan I saw how the rich live and the poor live. There is a crazy disparity between the poor and rich in Pakistan. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer in Pakistan.

Here in U.S. Obama is robbing the rich. I have cousins here who are very wealthy, they each make more than 250,000 US dollars yearly and they are shaking when they file for taxes becuse U.S. taxes the rich a lot. Pakistan needs to do the same. Make people like Zardari and Nawaz cry when they file for their taxes. Just demand taxes from the very wealthy in Islamabad, Lahore, and Karachi and you will see how wealthy Pakistan really is.


And stop demanding anything from the very poor who are struggling to even feed their children.

 

[Al Bhatti]

The population of Pakistan is 180+ million now ! Our economy isn't doing great...Floods,earthquakes and war on terrorism has inflicted huge damage on our already weak economy.Under such circumstances..our population is still growing..Don't you think it would be disaster for Pakistan if things continue this way? More population means more food,more schools,more health centers,more houses,more roads and all that but we know that our govt. would NOT be able to provide all this...

THIS trend of growing population can prove to be FATAL for the state of Pakistan in next few decades..What you guys think?

+ Our GDP is less than $200 billion while the GDP of Israel (with the population of just 7 million is over $200 billion

Do we need "6 pocket" policy like China yet?

You said "More population means more food,more schools,more health centers,more houses,more roads and all that but we know that our govt. would NOT be able to provide all this..." you should edit "would not be able to" to read as "will not". as there is a big difference in the meaning between the two.

Now let us come to GDP thing,

The two important cities of Japan were destroyed completely in 1945, and Japan was devastated industrially, they started from scratch.

Pakistan was created from scratch in 1947. Where are they now and where are we? Now the Population of Japan in 2011 is less by around 52 million compared to Pakistan's, this difference is not a big factor if you compare the size of Pakistan with that of Japan as Pakistan is almost more than twice the size of Japan.

As mentioned earlier the area of Japan is approximately less than half the area of Pakistan. They did not have any Aladdin's magical lamp that they rubbed and out came a genie and they asked for a prosperous country. No country has such lamp.

Natural calamities: we have floods and earthquakes not as often as the strong earthquakes that occur in Japan, not to mention tsunami, cyclone, hurricane that occur in Japan (being an island), they have adapted to the natural calamities by taking preventive measure. What are the preventive measure taken by our governments against just two natural calamities i.e. floods and earthquakes?


Below are statistics for Japan from Wikipedia:

Population
- 2011 estimate 127,960,000[5] (10th)
- 2010 census 128,056,026[6]
- Density 337.1/km2 (36th)
873.1/sq mi

GDP (PPP) 2011 estimate
- Total $4.396 trillion[7] (4th)
- Per capita $34,362[7] (25th)

GDP (nominal) 2011 estimate
- Total $5.855 trillion[7] (3rd)
- Per capita $45,774[7] (18th)

Area
- Total 377,944 km2 [4](62nd)
145,925 sq mi
- Water (%) 0.8

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Japanese are evolved humans , they have a sense of pride and attachment to their country / land which pushes them to work to be number one

Pakistan , the population lived in state of slavery in British Raj, and after that they did not had a chance to experience what it means to be free I feel we have not evolved as a nation as a group of Humans form South Asian decent

Japanese have evolved , and the have a unnatural sense of national pride, and onenness and love for doing their jobs

In Pakistan the focus is on to find another slave to do the job for you (again slave mentality)

 

[Waffen SS]

Japanese nation has a long history.

While we are still fighting over what is correct version of our history!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Solomon2]

Over-population doesn't destroy a country's economy. Rather, it causes a collapse of living standards as supply can't match demand.

The political system then collapses as well. Dictatorship asserts itself as the solution to all problems - which almost always means domestic war to battle for scarce resources and reduce the population followed by foreign wars to do the same. The pattern has been followed many times.

After WWII great emphasis was put on population control. Nobody wanted to see Hitlers and Napoleons crop up again, either in the West or the Third World. There was some progress in Muslim countries but the Saudis were against it (only two million population max in 1970 for an area the 2/3 the size of the U.S.) and after the 1973 Arab oil embargo (which resulted in a quadrupling of the oil price and more than that of their net revenues) the Saudi attitude prevailed.