PEW Survey: Khan surpasses All as the most popular leader in Pakistan.

[@rrows]

i agree it depends on who was surveyed in the poll. just city folks (who dont vote) or rural folks also took part. what is the ratio of urbanites and rural will tell the real story. i see him and his party winning a few seats but thats all....

I do agree with your opinion

 

[Leader]

PTI and Imran Khan should rise with Islamic Approach

for a moment I thought I was listening to a Historian giving account on leadership qualities... truly a learned person he has become...

on your Islamic approach, it requires mass education on lines where people can learn their Islamic history and correlate it with Pakistan, unfortunately we are divided now into many foreign thoughts, the post British colonial era is yet to fade away, coming up to date with the modern ways and adjusting with the modern day dynamic is yet to take place, reforms in our lines as muslims is a far reaching concept, differences are not tolerated, a unified goal is yet to be defined, intellectual base is yet to be made, theoretical frame work has not been something we as muslims are working on, further theoretical base is yet to be presented to masses who here I assume havae attained the tools of modern world earlier mentioned, this then be put in test of practical world, then compete with the opposite system...

this renaissance process is yet to take a flight, we are hardly muslims in our hearts, minds to work like Muslims can be well judged by where we stand right now...

surely change in the hearts and minds can be brought in one to two generations, provided if the true representative leadership take control who has a hand on the pulse of Nation's collective mind (which ofcourse in our case is Islamic).

P.S. edited.

 

[Leader]

I do agree with your opinion

no one knows who IK is in the rural areas and that is where the vote banks lie. city slickers dont vote. they just watch the results on TV and bemoan their fate. this survey dosnt mean anything.

the rural urban population was 60/40 as per 1998 consensus distribution, which by most accounts have crossed 50/50...

as far as not knowing who is Imran Khan and PTI is concern, it might be true in remote areas with only PTV, who and how they vote is different issue, moreover where there is cable, there is PTI's support...how much support? lets just put it on test of time....

lastly, the movements are run in urban areas, change is brought from urban areas, I never saw a movement for change starting from Donga Bonga
Be it the bhutto against ayub, 9star against bhutto, or lawyers movement against musharraf..all started in urban areas... I am sure ballet change is better this time which again starts from urban areas.

 

[Zarvan]

Maaf karo yaar. He will never get his votes that way.

He will be defeated than and he will be not able to bring the change than

 

[Zarvan]

for a moment I thought I was listening to a Historian giving account on leadership qualities... truly a learned person he has become...

on your Islamic approach, it requires mass education on lines where people can learn their Islamic history and correlate it with Pakistan, unfortunately we are divided now into many foreign thoughts, the post British colonial era is yet to fade away, coming up to date with the modern ways and adjusting with the modern day dynamic is yet to take place, reforms in our lines as muslims is a far reaching concept, differences are not tolerated, a unified goal is yet to be defined, intellectual base is yet to be made, theoretical frame work has not been something we as muslims are working on, further theoretical base is yet to be presented to masses who here I assume havae attained the tools of modern world earlier mentioned, this then be put in test of practical world, then compete with the opposite system...

this renaissance process is yet to take a flight, we are hardly muslims in our hearts, minds to work like Muslims can be well judged by where we stand right now...

surely change in the hearts and minds can be brought in one to two generations, provided if the true representative leadership take control who has a hand on the pulse of Nation's collective mind (which ofcourse in our case is Islamic).

P.S. edited.

Its not about your personal opinion its about standing with system of Islam or standing with system of kufr

 

[Luftwaffe]

The situation in which Pakistan is grave, at this time the current system is Ok and needs to be enforced properly. I always tell look at Turkey and learn something, later on you can implement xyz system when Pakistan is in the group of prosperous nations which is far from reality.

 

[pak-marine]

no one knows who IK is in the rural areas and that is where the vote banks lie. city slickers dont vote. they just watch the results on TV and bemoan their fate. this survey dosnt mean anything.

Spot on .... Urban votes wont help much its the rural areas ,Next Elections are year and a half away IK hasnt launched a campaign there yet , Will be great to see some one taking over from Waderas

 

[Leader]

Its not about your personal opinion its about standing with system of Islam or standing with system of kufr

Maybe I am unable to covey you the message, maybe because it contains "life time efforts and going through a process of transformation".

The IDEA you are suggesting of a System, is just an Idea as long as its not put to test in the modern times and ofcourse not like the Talibans, it has to be with accordance to our times, claiming mindlessly that System of Shariah is for all times is just a claim, you need to prepare for it to be not only accepted but to be recognized.

by the way have you studied Quran's translation? look around who has, Tafseer is a far cry, and Hadith with a systemic procedure, probably is out of question.... whats your plan?

 

[Zarvan]

Maybe I am unable to covey you the message, maybe because it contains "life time efforts and going through a process of transformation".

The IDEA you are suggesting of a System, is just an Idea as long as its not put to test in the modern times and ofcourse not like the Talibans, it has to be with accordance to our times, claiming mindlessly that System of Shariah is for all times is just a claim, you need to prepare for it to be not only accepted but to be recognized.

by the way have you studied Quran's translation? look around who has, Tafseer is a far cry, and Hadith with a systemic procedure, probably is out of question.... whats your plan?

Yes I have Studied Quran and Tafseer and Hadees and Shariah and as far as your question of modern times only a kafir can ask that question which you have asked Sir Shariah is for all times and Imran Khan is nothing his status is less than Islam if he stands for Islam than its alright or otherwise he just another puppet of USA for us and we will make sure we also get rid of him

 

[Zarvan]

The situation in which Pakistan is grave, at this time the current system is Ok and needs to be enforced properly. I always tell look at Turkey and learn something, later on you can implement xyz system when Pakistan is in the group of prosperous nations which is far from reality.

Sir Turkey is slowly drifting back to Islam

 

[Leader]

Yes I have Studied Quran and Tafseer and Hadees and Shariah and as far as your question of modern times only a kafir can ask that question which you have asked Sir Shariah is for all times and Imran Khan is nothing his status is less than Islam if he stands for Islam than its alright or otherwise he just another puppet of USA for us and we will make sure we also get rid of him

my question was how many have??? because we are not living in times of Muhmmad, all we have is a written document, and its interpretations, how many exactly have gone through the procedure to know it? and how many can exactly correlate it with the dynamics of modern times? as far as Shariah to be for all times claim is concern, it is needed to be proven, since only after 30 years of Khilafat we saw civil wars and the "system" fell into Dynasty leadership...

bhai everyone has the right to ask questions, when you wish to impose a system on them, they have the right to ask questions, its not a time of Shepards.

you are so afraid to put it into discussion even, how you gonna get it practically working?? that is the mindset I referred to in the first post, that its no longer times of dictatorship/ kingship to impose their will and their systems, its a time when you convince the world to your views...just like Imran khan has done...

 

[Paan Singh]

zordari jindabad..why he is less popular?

 

[Zarvan]

my question was how many have??? because we are not living in times of Muhmmad, all we have is a written document, and its interpretations, how many exactly have gone through the procedure to know it? and how many can exactly correlate it with the dynamics of modern times? as far as Shariah to be for all times claim is concern, it is needed to be proven, since only after 30 years of Khilafat we saw civil wars and the "system" fell into Dynasty leadership...

bhai everyone has the right to ask questions, when you wish to impose a system on them, they have the right to ask questions, its not a time of Shepards.

you are so afraid to put it into discussion even, how you gonna get it practically working?? that is the mindset I referred to in the first post, that its no longer times of dictatorship/ kingship to impose their will and their systems, its a time when you convince the world to your views...just like Imran khan has done...

Sir Shariah is system with own economic policies and Political policies and also interpretations are not different but a typical propaganda by enemies of Islam and some traitors fall for that and when Shariah comes things which are haram will remain haram and things which are halal remain halal if Imran Khan don't guts to do it because he also considers america his master than we are ready to take him on and we don't want more slaves of west and the system of Islam is from the king of this world don't challenge him we don't need traitors of Islam as our leaders

 

[Zarvan]

my question was how many have??? because we are not living in times of Muhmmad, all we have is a written document, and its interpretations, how many exactly have gone through the procedure to know it? and how many can exactly correlate it with the dynamics of modern times? as far as Shariah to be for all times claim is concern, it is needed to be proven, since only after 30 years of Khilafat we saw civil wars and the "system" fell into Dynasty leadership...

bhai everyone has the right to ask questions, when you wish to impose a system on them, they have the right to ask questions, its not a time of Shepards.

you are so afraid to put it into discussion even, how you gonna get it practically working?? that is the mindset I referred to in the first post, that its no longer times of dictatorship/ kingship to impose their will and their systems, its a time when you convince the world to your views...just like Imran khan has done...

and Sir this Cartoon Democracy has killed millions and millions in the world and don't tell me about modern times we know very well about it

 

[Leader]

Sir Shariah is system with own economic policies and Political policies and also interpretations are not different but a typical propaganda by enemies of Islam and some traitors fall for that and when Shariah comes things which are haram will remain haram and things which are halal remain halal if Imran Khan don't guts to do it because he also considers america his master than we are ready to take him on and we don't want more slaves of west and the system of Islam is from the king of this world don't challenge him we don't need traitors of Islam as our leaders

win the public's support and prove it. and kindly dont talk nonsense about Imran khan, we know exactly whose minds are slaves of their Aamir's thinking.