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Peshawar: Slogans of "Ro Imran Ro" echoed in his presence

beta agher kan kharab hai to mujhe ilzam mat deh, yeh allah ki karni hai. Listen to reporters who were there. You think PTI don't have opponents in Peshawar? they even needed coalition to form government.
Now reporters who were there are lying? All channels are reporting same thing lol
let me tell you what happend.
here we had been receiving messages from PTI reps for covering the event now some of our fellows as a normal practice among media persons share the coverage request messages on whatdapp group of journalists but when they reached the venue some of them were stopped by PTI walas that is why some of us boycotted the event.

Peshawar do have pti opponents.
and even if any such slogan had been made what is the big fuss? you had to accommodate all political views
 
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beta agher kan kharab hai to mujhe ilzam mat deh, yeh allah ki karni hai. Listen to reporters who were there. You think PTI don't have opponents in Peshawar? they even needed coalition to form government.
Problem with Imran khan and ptians is that they don't realize that PMN(N) has strong vote bank in Punjab so slogan of Roo Imran Roo is not impossible .they should realize that not everyone perceive Imran and Nawaz in same way as they do
 
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I could hear both. It is like both are competing each other to sound the largest campaign.

You could hear the words clearly. And this is not the first time Ro Imran Ro has been campaigned. That happened in the year of 2014 as well. It is not big deal, but for Imranistan, it might be hence their hesitant to acknowledge which is clear as sky. :D
 
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All i hear is Go Nawaz Go. There might be people chanting Ro Imran Ro, i will give them the benefit of doubt but i couldnt hear them.
 
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All based on last election results :-)

As per 2013 elections results the probability of Ro Imran Ro (14.5 million votes) is almost twice than Go Nawaz Go (7.8 million votes).

While Pakistan Khappey was 6.6 million and Jiye Altaf around 2.4 million.

So why so much surprise - although it seems to not have happened in reality as yet.
 
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ANP, JUI-F, PML-N & PPP are all united to save their DEMOCRAZY, corruption & treachery.

True!

PPP is in laughable situation though; it wants PMLN to win and lose at the same time in next elections.

All major "establishments" have sown the seeds in PPP and PMLN for so many years- billions of $ invested in them to further their designs - obviously these "establishments" won't let Zar & Shar fail - so easily.

In their view Zar & Shar marka brand of Democracy is best suited - it's pretty much on the same lines of East India Company - divide and rule (Idhar Hum Udhar Tum - Jaag Punjabi Jaag Teri Pagg Nu Lagg Gaya Dagh etc) just rewind few years and you'll see more Pakistanis and now you'll see more Seraikis, Baloch, Sindhi, Mohajir, Punjabi, Pakhtun but less Pakistanis.

If elections keep repeating in same administrative manner; then hatred of smaller provinces will obviously be further elevated towards Punjab as other confederating units will never be able to get the feeling of belonging in current setup and hence overall weakening of already fragmented country on fault lines that perfectly suit N$.

Additionally, these "establishments" have sown the seeds of romanticism with their unique brand of democracy very recently in Libya, Iraq and trying in Syria and as per these; now these countries are free and everyone is living happily ever after!

Sorry state - people do understand what's coming next but not ready to correct themselves and wants to believe that Zar & Shar will make country strong - for these blind supporters there is just a simple question:

Countries that prosper have strong institutions; can they pinpoint towards any institution strengthening measure Zar or Shar has taken?!? if none, then future is not hard to predict.
 
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True!

PPP is in laughable situation though; it wants PMLN to win and lose at the same time in next elections.

All major "establishments" have sown the seeds in PPP and PMLN for so many years- billions of $ invested in them to further their designs - obviously these "establishments" won't let Zar & Shar fail - so easily.

In their view Zar & Shar marka brand of Democracy is best suited - it's pretty much on the same lines of East India Company - divide and rule (Idhar Hum Udhar Tum - Jaag Punjabi Jaag Teri Pagg Nu Lagg Gaya Dagh etc) just rewind few years and you'll see more Pakistanis and now you'll see more Seraikis, Baloch, Sindhi, Mohajir, Punjabi, Pakhtun but less Pakistanis.

If elections keep repeating in same administrative manner; then hatred of smaller provinces will obviously be further elevated towards Punjab as other confederating units will never be able to get the feeling of belonging in current setup and hence overall weakening of already fragmented country on fault lines that perfectly suit N$.

Additionally, these "establishments" have sown the seeds of romanticism with their unique brand of democracy very recently in Libya, Iraq and trying in Syria and as per these; now these countries are free and everyone is living happily ever after!

Sorry state - people do understand what's coming next but not ready to correct themselves and wants to believe that Zar & Shar will make country strong - for these blind supporters there is just a simple question:

Countries that prosper have strong institutions; can they pinpoint towards any institution strengthening measure Zar or Shar has taken?!? if none, then future is not hard to predict.

The reason is the type of imported Westminster governmental system which has failed in Pakistan. The best form should be a technocratic system, where the best minds in their respective fields get the ministry of that field. For example we have Kh. Asif who is the Minister of defence and also minister of Water and Power, what qualification does this guy have to be able to run those departments......None. in reality a retired General/Admiral should be Minister of defence, an agriculturist should be running the Ministry of Agriculture, an accountant/finance expert should be running the Ministry of Finance etc etc you get the point.

Also i reckon having MNAs and MPAs is a waste of resources, these guys are meant to just do legislation. Whats the point of having a thousand people being paid a hefty pay for doing a few legislations a year. In my opinion the best way would be to have district Mayors/Nazims doing legislation as well when needed and the rest of the time they will just administer their own districts, this will save a huge chunk of tax payers money, and will also eliminate the complain of Nazims that the MNAs and MPAs are interfering with the administration of their constituency.

Also the Senate needs to be abolished, its purpose was to keep a check and balance on the government but some senators are part of the government for example the Finance Minister Ishaq Dar. So basically its members are contradicting the role of the house.

Stronger institutions are only possible when we have the right people in place for the right job.
 
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The reason is the type of imported Westminster governmental system which has failed in Pakistan. The best form should be a technocratic system, where the best minds in their respective fields get the ministry of that field. For example we have Kh. Asif who is the Minister of defence and also minister of Water and Power, what qualification does this guy have to be able to run those departments......None. in reality a retired General/Admiral should be Minister of defence, an agriculturist should be running the Ministry of Agriculture, an accountant/finance expert should be running the Ministry of Finance etc etc you get the point.

Also i reckon having MNAs and MPAs is a waste of resources, these guys are meant to just do legislation. Whats the point of having a thousand people being paid a hefty pay for doing a few legislations a year. In my opinion the best way would be to have district Mayors/Nazims doing legislation as well when needed and the rest of the time they will just administer their own districts, this will save a huge chunk of tax payers money, and will also eliminate the complain of Nazims that the MNAs and MPAs are interfering with the administration of their constituency.

Also the Senate needs to be abolished, its purpose was to keep a check and balance on the government but some senators are part of the government for example the Finance Minister Ishaq Dar. So basically its members are contradicting the role of the house.

Stronger institutions are only possible when we have the right people in place for the right job.

Hijacked institutions will not get any better incrementally as people (huge majority) working in them have vested interests to not change the current system. Few years back powers were proposed to be curtailed of DMG as this group has been working on same model that British Raj devised to keep power grip administratively - guess what happened to that move - failed miserably.

Westminster style of democracy can work if certain core ingredients are present:

1. Literacy (not that of just signing his/her name)
2. Stable economic condition of voters (not exploitable for a plate of biryani)
3. Nationalism above caste, creed, sect, linguistics

It is in interest of Zar & Shar to keep the above factors in their favour by keeping the institutions weak so arm twisting can be done to protect their fiefdoms.

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As a sidenote just see where we stand as a nation; SCP requested names of diamond integrity for JIT and openly rejected names of few SECP and NAB officers - what was the message; the names proposed by SECP and NAB are of questionable/compromised reputation hence let them serve the country and do whatever they are doing and no one batted an eye at such a glaring issue; that corrupt / compromised reputation people can work anywhere else and it's a non issue, as compromised reputation of public office or govt officers is a non issue, but not in this showcased gold and glittery JIT. Such a joke!

In any other country - those names that were rejected would have been investigated and if any thing found against them would have been put behind the bars. As it's an absolute disgrace for a Govt., Officer to be considered a person with dubious integrity by none other than Supreme Court of the country.

No one in Pakistan looked at this larger than JIT issue and the message SCP sent indirectly to us; that corruption is OK everywhere in the country but not in this six member JIT. Seriously!
 
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Seen the video, all I could hear is go nawaz go, but capital TV are trying to report other way around, shameless reporting.
Such small channels need such reporting to keep the flow of money coming from the bubble butt's media cell.
 
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Hijacked institutions will not get any better incrementally as people (huge majority) working in them have vested interests to not change the current system. Few years back powers were proposed to be curtailed of DMG as this group has been working on same model that British Raj devised to keep power grip administratively - guess what happened to that move - failed miserably.

Westminster style of democracy can work if certain core ingredients are present:

1. Literacy (not that of just signing his/her name)
2. Stable economic condition of voters (not exploitable for a plate of biryani)
3. Nationalism above caste, creed, sect, linguistics

It is in interest of Zar & Shar to keep the above factors in their favour by keeping the institutions weak so arm twisting can be done to protect their fiefdoms.

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As a sidenote just see where we stand as a nation; SCP requested names of diamond integrity for JIT and openly rejected names of few SECP and NAB officers - what was the message; the names proposed by SECP and NAB are of questionable/compromised reputation hence let them serve the country and do whatever they are doing and no one batted an eye at such a glaring issue; that corrupt / compromised reputation people can work anywhere else and it's anon issue, but not in this showcased JIT. Such a joke!

In any other country - those names that were rejected would have been investigated and if any thing found against them would have been put behind the bars. As it's an absolute disgrace for a Govt., Officer to be considered a person with dubious integrity by none other than Supreme Court of the country.

No one in Pakistan looked at this larger than JIT issue and the message SCP sent indirectly to us; that corruption is OK everywhere in the country but not in this six member JIT. Seriously!

wonderfully put and i agree with you 100%
 
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