Peshawar Massacre - TTP kills hundreds of school kids (Avoid graphic pics/vids)

[T-Faz]

That is just having a big paint brush and brush away, at least the others tried to make an argument and you can try to do so too you know, if Saudi Arabia started making money tomorrow through huge amounts of Gold mines, then terrorist will stop? Your logic is just so ignorant it hurts.

As long as it has money, there will be people who fund terrorism.

 

[LeGenD]

So is it your contention that religion should be mixed into the workings of a modern state? That may be your opinion but far more likely to be wrong compared to my clear view that religion must remain confined to the personal domain if a state is to work properly for all its citizens. There is evidence aplenty.

You got this wrong.

Religious indoctrination should be responsibility of the leadership of the state which identifies itself as an Islamic Republic and it should be conducted using multi-faceted approach. Leaving this indoctrination in the hands of some individuals can empower them and this have potential risks; if radicals are among such individuals, they can use their influence to create powerful fundamentalist groups. And this have already happened.

Islam is not a personal thing, it is a societal culture and order.

The multi-faceted approach should involve state machinery; education system; media; certified Islamic scholars; and parental responsibilities, in promoting awareness of Islam.

 

[VCheng]

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Islam is not a personal thing, it is a societal culture and order.

And that is the fatal flaw in this type of thinking. Religion must remain a personal matter, without any indoctrination or imposition from anyone else. We all can see what happens if it does not.

 

[Solomon2]

...ISI won't let TTP disappear because ISI also get lot's of Info from TTP.

The more perfect the information the ISI has about the TTP the more they must be a part of the organization itself and be a part of its crimes.

Taken to its extreme you get a situation like that satirized in an episode of the old TV comedy spy show Get Smart: Maxwell Smart breaks up the leadership council of the KAOS terrorist organization by outing all of them as agents of competing U.S. intelligence services! If only the priority had been upon destroying terrorist organizations rather than infiltrating and controlling them their resultant terror would be much less of a problem.

 

[Gandhi follower]

Pakistan's Own Demons Come Back to Haunt It - Perverz Hoodhboy

 

[Chak Bamu]

Pakistan's Own Demons Come Back to Haunt It - Perverz Hoodhboy

Nitin Goyal is back?

 

[HughSlaman]

It is a pity that you have nothing better to do than to present your own personal prejudices and assert that these are incontrovertible facts. "If you actually have some verifiable evidence" for your weird statements, everyone will be very interested. But I doubt that will happen to you, son, since all you want to do is troll. And neither I nor anyone else can stop you from having your fun even on this dismal occasion, can we?

Another mimicker? A cultural thing? LOL! I can't talk to you people at all.

As I mentioned before, the TTP is covertly backed by Indian intelligence agencies.
That means they are backing the TTP in a way that is deniable; there will be no "smoking guns" which incontrovertibly force everyone to believe this; still, the overall pattern of facts (some of which I mentioned) is best explained by one thing: the TTP is covertly backed by Indian intelligence agencies.

This is already well understood by the people who matter most, such as General Raheel Sharif, who according to my sources has brought it up in his recent trip to Kabul. It will have consequences for the war with the TTP.

Why are you so desperate to deny that the TTP is covertly backed by Indian intelligence agencies?
If this is so unbelievable, why the need to launch a campaign against it?

 

[LeGenD]

And that is the fatal flaw in this type of thinking. Religion must remain a personal matter, without any indoctrination or imposition from anyone else. We all can see what happens if it does not.

No, this is a fatal flaw in your understanding of purpose of Islam and its tenets.

I am talking about spreading awareness of Islam using multi-faceted approach, not imposing an interpretation of it on everybody with a stick.

People have made Islam personal and this is the root-cause of birth of multiple interpretations and school of thoughts with vested interests and power politics.

 

[Screambowl]

The Official Anouncement Of The All Parties Conference Is That No More Good Taliban and Bad Taliban.I Do Not Know What News You Heard.LTTE Is Gone Because The Sri Lankans Fought A 30 Year Long War.

National security advisor has advised the PM that mark only those militants who are threat, freindly one's must not be pinned.


[QUOTE="Samlee, post: 6557420, member: 30880"
LTTP,Shanti Bahini, Banga Bhumi ,Baloch Warma and Pakhtun Zalma(In The 70s) The List Keeps Going.Have A Heart and Admit That You Started The Culture Of Proxy Wars[/QUOTE]
the proxy war culture was already there in subcontinent. Razakars in hyderabad, Pakhtun tribes looting Kashmir.. this is all proxy war.

 

[Chak Bamu]

It is a pity that you have nothing better to do than to present your own personal prejudices and assert that these are incontrovertible facts. "If you actually have some verifiable evidence" for your weird statements, everyone will be very interested. But I doubt that will happen to you, son, since all you want to do is troll. And neither I nor anyone else can stop you from having your fun even on this dismal occasion, can we?

Let him be, sir. He is just a lowly PTI-bot troll. No one can educate this lot.

 

[VCheng]

No, this is a fatal flaw in your understanding of purpose of Islam and its tenets.

I am talking about spreading awareness of Islam using multi-faceted approach, not imposing an interpretation of it on everybody with a stick.

People have made Islam personal and this is the root-cause of birth of multiple interpretations and school of thoughts with vested interests and power politics.

Islam is one of many religions, and ALL religions must remain personal matters, and should NEVER be allowed to intermingle with matters of state, if there is to be peace and prosperity for everyone without prejudice. That is 100% clear.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Another mimicker? A cultural thing? LOL! I can't talk to you people at all.

As I mentioned before, the TTP is covertly backed by Indian intelligence agencies.
That means they are backing the TTP in a way that is deniable; there will be no "smoking guns" which incontrovertibly force everyone to believe this; still, the overall pattern of facts (some of which I mentioned) is best explained by one thing: the TTP is covertly backed by Indian intelligence agencies.

This is already well understood by the people who matter most, such as General Raheel Sharif, who according to my sources has brought it up in his recent trip to Kabul. It will have consequences for the war with the TTP.

Why are you so desperate to deny that the TTP is covertly backed by Indian intelligence agencies?
If this is so unbelievable, why the need to launch a campaign against it?

The last time I encountered this quaint belief that repeating something three times makes it true was in kindergarten. I am glad to see the evidence that people are spending money on your education.

 

[LeGenD]

Islam is one of many religions, and ALL religions must remain personal matters, and should NEVER be allowed to intermingle with matters of state, if there is to be peace and prosperity for everyone without prejudice. That is 100% clear.

Kindly explain "matters of state."

 

[Joe Shearer]

Let him be, sir. He is just a lowly PTI-bot troll. No one can educate this lot.

Sorry. I am too disturbed to be rational tonight. You are right.

 

[HughSlaman]

I have been following all the news, Zaid Hamid, Mubasshar Luqman.. creating war hysteria blaming India and RAW. They are the biggest sympathisers of Taliban in Pakistan but I bet, ISI won't let TTP disappear because ISI also get lot's of Info from TTP. And TTP is not just one person organization... there are 100 affiliated groups. Which are operated by ISI which are funded by unknown who knows?

Afghan Taliban and TTP are very different. The TTP *want* you to think they are the same, since their Indian handlers want to create the impression that the Afghan Taliban have come back to haunt Pakistan. This narrative is false. The Afghan Taliban never committed anything like the Peshawar atrocity, nor did they play football with the severed heads of soldiers, nor did they have an issue with the Pakistani army or state.

You should read "Open Secrets" by Maloy Krishna Dhar. He describes the process of Indian agents learning to imitate religious Muslim men in some detail.