Persian or Arabian Gulf? Iran, Saudi fight over name

[bozorgmehr]

Isn't that what you want? You guys always talk about that. Now you're drifting away and rather presenting as ideological struggle against Islam. I'm not religious person anymore, however, I'm aware your government in Iran promotes itself as religious government. It also projects its struggle with SA as an religious one. So like I said, man up and don't drag others into this war. It's unfortunate Yemeni's , Syrians, Iraqi's have to die for SA/Iranian interests in the region. While SA/Iranian residents are sitting at home reaping benefits comfortably. Cowards.

Well you can go blow yourself up and try to start a war if you want. I'm glad the Iranian government is not doing that. Iran is doing the very minimum to stave off the crazed zombies, and for once I agree with it. No need to start unnecessary wars. That's your specialty...

 

[KN-1]

If one hits Chabahar you will regret for that

We have very low population near chabahar.. we are ready for little sacrifice

 

[kollang]

We have very low population near chabahar.. we are ready for little sacrifice

I thought Karachi is close?

 

[bozorgmehr]

One thing we all can agree upon, they both have ego issues and most of their actions are a consequence of their Arabic & Persian false pride.

I see you have a sharp sense of proportionality! A neighbor invades another neighbor's home, claims pieces of his property, constantly cusses and demonizes them to anybody who will listen, asks others to knock them off, and for you it's just a question of false pride on both sides. I just hope you're not a judge in real life.

 

[Imran Khan]

 

[KN-1]

I thought Karachi is close?

Karachi is on extreme eastern coast while Chabahar border gawadar on western cost, nearly 700km distance if i am not wrong, moreover balochistan which share border with Iran is half Pakistan on map but it have 10 million population, rest 190 million lives in other fertile parts,

 

[Indika]

Arabs infact at one point of time wanted to rename Indian ocean as arabian ocean but did not get enough support.

 

[bozorgmehr]

And that would be a powerful argument if the person whose home had been invaded was the actual owner. The rulers of Iran are not Persian, they're levantine Arabs brought into the region by the Safavids. Even if they were Persians, the Persians stole the land from others.

Your conspiratorial ideas notwithstanding, Iran is a country, not an ethnicity. This goes very deep into the root of the idea of Iran. You see when Cyrus, the father of our nation united the realm for the first time, he extended a hand of partnership to his erstwhile foes (the Medes) and against the trends of the time, he included them into the power structure. So the idea of a multi-ethnic state is baked right in with us. The fact that so and so has whatever ethnic background is trivial to the vast majority of Iranians.

That's why I'm always amused to see Turks going into a frenzy trying to prove that Safavid kings were of Turkic background, which itself is debatable, but makes zero difference to Iranians. That's why you see that in present day Iran the supreme leader can be of Azari background, a long standing defence minister can be an ethnic Arab, the mayor of Tehran can be a Kurd, and nobody could care less if they tried...

 

[tested]

Arabs infact at one point of time wanted to rename Indian ocean as arabian ocean but did not get enough support.

Really?
When ? Would love to read about it.

 

[T-123456]

The Perso-Arab Gulf. @Serpentine, I've solved the problem.

Nope,you didnt,why Perso first?
Why not the Iranians call it Persian Gulf and the Arabs call it Arabian Gulf?
The rest of the world can call either name, @XenoEnsi-14 ,problem solved

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Nope,you didnt,why Perso first?

'Cause I said so.

 

[libertycall]

Your conspiratorial ideas notwithstanding, Iran is a country, not an ethnicity. This goes very deep into the root of the idea of Iran. You see when Cyrus, the father of our nation united the realm for the first time, he extended a hand of partnership to his erstwhile foes (the Medes) and against the trends of the time, he included them into the power structure. So the idea of a multi-ethnic state is baked right in with us. The fact that so and so has whatever ethnic background is trivial to the vast majority of Iranians.

That's why I'm always amused to see Turks going into a frenzy trying to prove that Safavid kings were of Turkic background, which itself is debatable, but makes zero difference to Iranians. That's why you see that in present day Iran the supreme leader can be of Azari background, a long standing defence minister can be an ethnic Arab, the mayor of Tehran can be a Kurd, and nobody could care less if they tried...

Cyrus was the father of the Shiite Republic of Iran? What about Sayyid Khamenei is he a Persian too?

The closest living relatives of the Medes are the Kurds--who ruled Iran before the Persians.

In the Shiite Republic of Iran, the only person who can be Supreme Leader is a person who believes in the list of Arab descendants of Ali drawn up in an arbitrary manner by a ghulati cult based in Lebanon. Not only would Cyrus be prevented from ever being the ruler of his own country but so would his PARSEE descendants.

Tell me more about your unbroken 'Persian civilization' lol

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Why not the Iranians call it Persian Gulf and the Arabs call it Arabian Gulf?
The rest of the world can call either name, @XenoEnsi-14 ,problem solved

That's actually the problem.

 

[bozorgmehr]

all lands on both sides of the Arabian Gulf are populated by Arabs, so it's ridiculous to say it's not Arabian.
Farsi are trying to steal everything they can by fabricating facts or changing demography of Ahwaz area.
It was Arabian and it still Arabian and it's not gonna be anything else.

And there we go!!! Another proud Arab, raised on a lifetime of bullsh!t and hate. Now, who thinks they can teach this guy that 1) It's not Arabs living on both sides of the Persian Gulf. 2) Ahvaaz has always been part of Iran and the Arabs there are relatively recent arrivals from Iraqi tribes. 3) None of the above makes any difference.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Chinese Silk Gulf.