Permanent U.N. seat for Islamic states

[Hafizzz]

Not necessarily, but tell me why Pakistan should be considered as the 'Islamic candidate' (if the issue of UNSC seat for Muslim nations is brought up).

Turkey is much more developed in human development, technology, and most importantly, international image. So I would say, even if the point of a Muslim nation being permanent member comes up, Turkey would be the ideal candidate.

"Not necessary" ??? Well USA considers India an ally and therefore offered support to her for a U.N. seat.

Turkey will not get support because the West think the country has betray NATO so Pakistan who is an ally of USA and the West will be the best Islamic candidate for
permanent U.N. seat.

 

[gambit]

When you think about the UN security council it is really funny. No Islamic country, no South Asian country, no African country, no Oceanic country, no Latin American country.

Also keep in mind that the only non "Western country" on the council, China, has single-digit vetoes.

What a nice and democratic world we live in.

Who told you that? China complains about democratic practices in other countries?

 

[prototype]

Spot on about the difference between India and Pakistan. Pakistan needs to come to terms with the AFPAK hyphenation as of today, and stop making silly statements trying to equate to India.

As an additional note, isn't it interesting that Pakistanis always try to bring in the religion card and moan about 'Muslims not having representation', but by the same logic, we can simply say that India, being the only Hindu majority state, also deserves a seat on religious grounds - after all, there are about as many Muslims as Hindus worldwide. But no, according to them, Muslims deserve representation, but not the Kaafir Hindus.

Anyway this bogus religion card is not going to work. It is all about economy, hard power and future growth projections, on the basis of which the UN restructuring will take place.

OIC and Muslim union is nothing more than a curtain for Pakistan,through it it is actually demanding its own candidature just because one had been forwarded to India

If it is about just Muslim member,we have here many qualified members,Indonesia,Saudi Arabia and Turkey,but it is yet to b seen even OIC member's support them or not

 

[Peacefulll]

"Not necessary" ??? Well USA considers India an ally and therefore offered support to her for a U.N. seat.

Turkey will not get support because the West think the country has betray NATO so Pakistan who is an ally of USA and the West will be the best Islamic candidate for
permanent U.N. seat.

You are dishonest, and a hypocrite. On the one hand you ask rhetorical questions about why only Western backed countries should get a chance in the UN, but then you come back and argue Pakistan's case based on 'ally of America'!

Let me tell you, more than anyone thinking about Turkey betraying NATO, almost everyone in the US and other Western countries these days, feels that Pakistan is playing a double game, and are acting exceedingly untrustworthy, hardly "allies", even after being given so much aid. That is the perception, and you can hardly do anything to change it, unless you take drastic steps.

And by the way, like I explained in my earlier post, this entire religious card you people love to play, is completely bogus. If religion is indeed so important, will you support India's candidature on the basis that Hindus and Muslims are almost equal in number today, both are around a billion strong, so why should the Hindu majority India not get representation only on the basis of religion? But no, you people will never agree to support Kaafir Hindus being up there, am I right? Thankfully your support and your statements don't matter even one bit.

 

[Rafi]

Why are indians worried about what Pakistan thinks, we will do what ever is our national interest, supporting the continued reign of an organization that is the security council, which is based on a bias should not be in anyone's interest.

In the long run the UN should be democratic, with the general assembly having more power.

 

[Hulk]

Height of Pakistani's asking for something that India gets. Be realistic that way all the world should in UN.

First Nuke deal, then similar weapons now UN seat.

It's like younger brother complaining about not getting something elder had. The problem in this case is that younger brother thinks he has different father and mother.

 

[SpArK]

Permanent seat for all 57 states? Sounds interesting.

 

[prototype]

Why are indians worried about what Pakistan thinks, we will do what ever is our national interest, supporting the continued reign of an organization that is the security council, which is based on a bias should not be in anyone's interest.

In the long run the UN should be democratic, with the general assembly having more power.

if u want a candidature ask that with some credible reason,not just because India had forwarded one,if u did it,u will b rejected by the same democratic general assembly of U.N

If u argue on basis of Muslim population,than support indonesia and turkey,rather than opposing them,they r more economically strong and more politically influential than u,thus making them more deserving member's

 

[prototype]

Nepal should also come forward for UNSC seat as it is the only Hindu country in the world

Thailand should also come forward to represent Buddhism at UNSC.

Israel should be provided one for promoting Jews.

Vatican should be invited because it represents Christianity

Why just one religion should b awarded

Let UNSC be converted into a religious mockery because some people they r good for nothing other than expressing the conceit of religion

 

[alpha proton]

^^U forgot Mongolia,they should also demand a seat in the name of Chengiz Khan and a formidable race he created

 

[Hafizzz]

You are dishonest, and a hypocrite. On the one hand you ask rhetorical questions about why only Western backed countries should get a chance in the UN, but then you come back and argue Pakistan's case based on 'ally of America'!

Let me tell you, more than anyone thinking about Turkey betraying NATO, almost everyone in the US and other Western countries these days, feels that Pakistan is playing a double game, and are acting exceedingly untrustworthy, hardly "allies", even after being given so much aid. That is the perception, and you can hardly do anything to change it, unless you take drastic steps.

And by the way, like I explained in my earlier post, this entire religious card you people love to play, is completely bogus. If religion is indeed so important, will you support India's candidature on the basis that Hindus and Muslims are almost equal in number today, both are around a billion strong, so why should the Hindu majority India not get representation only on the basis of religion? But no, you people will never agree to support Kaafir Hindus being up there, am I right? Thankfully your support and your statements don't matter even one bit.

You don't even know what you are talking about. LOL

 

[SpArK]

Who are left if 57 nations become permanent? Also African union, ASEAN, Latin union should be given membership too.

 

[Peacefulll]

You don't even know what you are talking about. LOL

Basically you are one more of those people who shout from the rooftops about "Muslims are being persecuted, Muslims need respect" and all that, but you will never extend the same courtesy to Hindus or other religions. If you talk of UN permanent seat on the basis of religion, it stands to reason that the other religion called Hinduism which has around as many adherents as Islam, also deserves representation. And you know that I'm right, but you have no idea how to respond to this point, so you spout a one-liner with the usual "lol lol" nonsense.

Anyhow, India is not aiming for a seat on the basis of religious nonsense, and most of us don't even care about "Hindu representation", because we recognize the huge Muslim population in addition to the other religions in India. Hard facts like economy, military, population, future growth, etc. are the factors that drive our bid.

 

[Hafizzz]

Basically you are one more of those people who shout from the rooftops about "Muslims are being persecuted, Muslims need respect" and all that, but you will never extend the same courtesy to Hindus or other religions. If you talk of UN permanent seat on the basis of religion, it stands to reason that the other religion called Hinduism which has around as many adherents as Islam, also deserves representation. And you know that I'm right, but you have no idea how to respond to this point, so you spout a one-liner with the usual "lol lol" nonsense.

Anyhow, India is not aiming for a seat on the basis of religious nonsense. Hard facts like economy, military, population, future growth, etc. are the factors that drive our bid.

The reason why India wants to join the U.N. as a permanent member is because she wants to be treated as a world power and use the veto power to give Pakistan and other South Asian countries a hard time. We all know what India is up to.

 

[SpArK]

The reason why India wants to join the U.N. as a permanent member is because she wants to be treated as a world power and use the veto power to give Pakistan and other South Asian countries a hard time. We all know what India is up to.

I dont think you know how United Nations function.

You speak as if veto power is something god given and using it India can run around harassing it neighbours for no reasons.

It much complicated hafizz. try reading atleast wikipedia.