People in Kashmir throng soldier's funeral

[Chhatrapati]

There is no perfect Islamic nation, bitter pill every Muslim has to swallow.

There are Hindustani Muslims who are much better than me in terms of their practice of Islam, but that doesn't mean I won't talk trash about the traitors among them who worship a government that loathes them, and despise the actions of their forefathers.

You know very well that he's going to hell as per Islam, don't try and deny it.

How can his reasoning be wrong and yours the only correct opinion. He thinks India is his land and not Pakistan. If tomorrow, entire Kashmiri people start to work with the government, you call them traitors too?

You are talking as if the state of Pakistan as the center of Islam, whoever goes against it is going against almighty. So, I assume the same is the fate of Muslim officers who died fighting against Pakistan's misadventures, they are going to hell.

I got nothing to say to you. Just that, it's not you who decide who is righteous. We do our duty and pray to almighty for his heaven. It's he who decides that not you and you have no right to question my prayer.

Just to correct you here

For 2015 The biggest employer of Kashmir is agriculture sector

The labour force break up is as follows -
Agriculture 64%
Industry 11%
Services 25%

http://www.prsindia.org/administrator/uploads/general/1464866443_Jammu and Kashmir Budget Analysis 2016-17.pdf

Its pretty much like rest of the India.

I was talking about the single largest employer which is the government. Against the member who claimed it was IA. Not sector wise, but thanks for the info.

See the lawmakers chanting 'pakistan zindabad' in occupied kashmir assembly.

When these lawmakers amend a law that supports union with Pakistan. Then we'll have to declare an emergency in state and crackdown.

Now, 'one' guy just said Pakistan Zindabad. It will not even go on record. And you guys started thinking of the merger.

 

[PakSword]

You know very well that he's going to hell as per Islam, don't try and deny it.

I told you.. chooron ka Islam bilkul different hai.. They don't support the native Muslims when they ask for their right of self determination and don't want to be part of a fake secular democracy..

Let me tell you, even if they are asked by Hazrat Isa (Alehe Salam) to join against Zionists and their state (India) will side with Israel in that war, they will simply support the declaration of emergency against those Kashmiris who will want to Join Hazrat Isa (Alehe Salam).

A completely different brand of Islam that is.. where you put a secular constitution above what the religion preaches on this subject through our Aslaaf..

 

[Hamza913]

How can his reasoning be wrong and yours the only correct opinion. He thinks India is his land and not Pakistan. If tomorrow, entire Kashmiri people start to work with the government, you call them traitors too?

You are talking as if the state of Pakistan as the center of Islam, whoever goes against it is going against almighty. So, I assume the same is the fate of Muslim officers who died fighting against Pakistan's misadventures, they are going to hell.

I got nothing to say to you. Just that, it's not you who decide who is righteous. We do our duty and pray to almighty for his heaven. It's he who decides that not you and you have no right to question my prayer.



I was talking about the single largest employer which is the government. Against the member who claimed it was IA. Not sector wise, but thanks for the info.


When these lawmakers amend a law that supports union with Pakistan. Then we'll have to declare an emergency in state and crackdown.

Now, 'one' guy just said Pakistan Zindabad. It will not even go on record. And you guys started thinking of the merger.

If all of Kashmir helps Hindustan, yeah, they all become traitors.

Pakistani military has done and does do crappy things, but everything crappy that it has done has been done against other Pakistanis. When it comes to fighting Hindustan, the Pakistani military can instigate as many wars as they like, Hindustan is Darul Harb. Any Muslims who fight with Hindustan, become Harbis. Simple.

We can easily decide based on the Quran and Ahadith. Allah gets the final say, but we can make a reasonable guess as to their fate.

 

[PakSword]

If all of Kashmir helps Hindustan, yeah, they all become traitors.

Pakistani military has done and does do crappy things, but everything crappy that it has done has been done against other Pakistanis. When it comes to fighting Hindustan, the Pakistani military can instigate as many wars as they like, Hindustan is Darul Harb. Any Muslims who fight with Hindustan, become Harbis. Simple.

We can easily decide based on the Quran and Ahadith. Allah gets the final say, but we can make a reasonable guess as to their fate.

Check the hypocrisy. .. They stop you from judging about traitors destiny after death, but they themselves judge freedom fighters' destiny with precision. Lolz

And let me tell you one more thing about them, they think an Indian soldier even if he is a Hindu may enter paradise for defending secular India, but a Muslim freedom fighter martyred in the war will never enter the paradise, because he fought against an occupying force that pushed him to accept a secular democracy which he should have.

Jokers. .. lolz

 

[Chhatrapati]

If all of Kashmir helps Hindustan, yeah, they all become traitors.

Pakistani military has done and does do crappy things, but everything crappy that it has done has been done against other Pakistanis. When it comes to fighting Hindustan, the Pakistani military can instigate as many wars as they like, Hindustan is Darul Harb. Any Muslims who fight with Hindustan, become Harbis. Simple.

We can easily decide based on the Quran and Ahadith. Allah gets the final say, but we can make a reasonable guess as to their fate.

Yeah, yea... I know your 10:1 theory and all. So, I think it's better to stay out. And by your own logic, Pakistan is not a Darul-Islam. You still practice English common law, sharia is applied in a limited sense. So, what's stopping an Islamic nation to implement Islamic laws in a complete sense? Your only advantage being Muslim majority nation. Please call your men that too.

Agree, the almighty gets the final say. And our guessing work will not be rewarded.

but they themselves judge freedom fighters' destiny with precision.

Joker, I didn't predict his destiny. I just offered my prayer and your compatriot here asked me to stop.

 

[Hamza913]

Yeah, yea... I know your 10:1 theory and all. So, I think it's better to stay out. And by your own logic, Pakistan is not a Darul-Islam. You still practice English common law, sharia is applied in a limited sense. So, what's stopping an Islamic nation to implement Islamic laws in a complete sense? Your only advantage being Muslim majority nation. Please call your men that too.

Agree, the almighty gets the final say. And our guessing work will not be rewarded.

Pakistan might not be an Islamic country, but it has a higher percentage (and raw number) of Muslims than Hindustan. So in any conflict between the two, a Muslim can at best stay neutral. He cannot support the death of his fellow Muslims at the hands of some pagan jahils.

Actually, guess work is rewarded as it counts as advising other Muslims.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Pakistan might not be an Islamic country, but it has a higher percentage (and raw number) of Muslims than Hindustan.

So you are not an Islamic country but claims to be Darul Islam. Though holier than Indian Muslim.

So in any conflict between the two, a Muslim can at best stay neutral. He cannot support the death of his fellow Muslims at the hands of some pagan jahils.

Actually, guess work is rewarded as it counts as advising other Muslims.

Same applies to you too. You can stay put instead of killing another Indian Muslim, but that hasn't stopped you from doing it right?
He is not a fellow Muslim but an enemy Muslim who come to destroy the country he lives. And given your history, where you indiscriminately killed off many Muslims and helping the jew (if black September ring a bell). If that's an example of Darul Islam fighting along with pagans is nothing.

I'm gonna stop running along with the way you claim your holiness.

Lastly, no, you are not advising anyone. You are just blabbering. I'm not the one who needs advice here.

 

[Hamza913]

So you are not an Islamic country but claims to be Darul Islam. Though holier than Indian Muslim.


Same applies to you too. You can stay put instead of killing another Indian Muslim, but that hasn't stopped you from doing it right?
He is not a fellow Muslim but an enemy Muslim who come to destroy the country he lives. And given your history, where you indiscriminately killed off many Muslims and helping the jew (if black September ring a bell). If that's an example of Darul Islam fighting along with pagans is nothing.

I'm gonna stop running along with the way you claim your holiness.

Lastly, no, you are not advising anyone. You are just blabbering. I'm not the one who needs advice here.

Are you blind or just selective with what you take from my posts? I said there is no Darul Islam. That doesn't mean there isn't a Darul Harb.

Like I said before, any Muslim who helps Hindustan (a mushrik country that supports Israel, oppresses Kashmir, hates Islam and wants to kill Muslims in Pakistan) is no longer a Muslim. He becomes the same as the Hindu soldier that kills Kashmiris. Him giving himself a different label doesn't mean squat.

Black September was when the Pakistani government helped the Jordanians. We got heavy handed and that was bad, but that doesn't help your case of trying to prove this apostate is a shaheed.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Are you blind or just selective with what you take from my posts? I said there is no Darul Islam. That doesn't mean there isn't a Darul Harb.

Like I said before, any Muslim who helps Hindustan (a mushrik country that supports Israel, oppresses Kashmir, hates Islam and wants to kill Muslims in Pakistan) is no longer a Muslim. He becomes the same as the Hindu soldier that kills Kashmiris. Him giving himself a different label doesn't mean squat.

Black September was when the Pakistani government helped the Jordanians. We got heavy handed and that was bad, but that doesn't help your case of trying to prove this apostate is a shaheed.

You can't claim to be a Darul Harb or Darul Islam. What are you then? soo shady. The KSA, is in a way is an Islamic nation. The rest of your yapping, I choose to ignore. As you still can't figure out what you do in real. Let's not go deep into the discussion and expose things the South Asians do. I'll leave it for another thread if that thread ever surfaces.

 

[Hamza913]

You can't claim to be a Darul Harb or Darul Islam. What are you then? soo shady. The KSA, is in a way is an Islamic nation. The rest of your yapping, I choose to ignore. As you still can't figure out what you do in real. Let's not go deep into the discussion and expose things the South Asians do. I'll leave it for another thread if that thread ever surfaces.

The KSA isn't Islamic. Not a single nation is.

Given up have we? Probably for the best, you had no legs to stand on.

 

[Chhatrapati]

The KSA isn't Islamic. Not a single nation is.

Given up have we? Probably for the best, you had no legs to stand on.

It's better Islamic than Pakistan ever will be. I lived there for a brief period.

Na, I chose to stay away. The forum has two rules for us. I don't wanna go down talking to a wannabe mullah.

 

[Hamza913]

It's better Islamic than Pakistan ever will be. I lived there for a brief period.

Na, I chose to stay away. The forum has two rules for us. I don't wanna go down talking to a wannabe mullah.

I'll give you that, Saudi does obey the Sharia more than Pakistan, but both countries obey it more than Hindustan.

Aww, typical crying of Hindustani PDF members. Waaah, I'm not treated equally, waaah.

 

[Chhatrapati]

I'll give you that, Saudi does obey the Sharia more than Pakistan, but both countries obey it more than Hindustan.

Aww, typical crying of Hindustani PDF members. Waaah, I'm not treated equally, waaah.

Hindustan or Pakistan. A country is not elevated into heaven. Or Almighty will never give preference to anyone from a particular country. The people and their individual choice matters.

I'm not complaining to you lol! I said, it's bad to go down talking to people like you. ew!

 

[Solomon2]

Pakistan might not be an Islamic country, but it has a higher percentage (and raw number) of Muslims than Hindustan. So in any conflict between the two, a Muslim can at best stay neutral. He cannot support the death of his fellow Muslims at the hands of some pagan jahils.

So no matter how evil someone who calls himself a Muslim is if his opponent is a non-Muslim (or called a non-Muslim) then a Muslim "can at best stay neutral"? What an utterly cowardly attitude.

 

[Hamza913]

Hindustan or Pakistan. A country is not elevated into heaven. Or Almighty will never give preference to anyone from a particular country. The people and their individual choice matters.

I'm not complaining to you lol! I said, it's bad to go down talking to people like you. ew!

Right, you can't control which piece of dirt you were born on.

But you can control whether or not you'll help the harbis that live there.

So no matter how evil someone who calls himself a Muslim is if his opponent is a non-Muslim (or called a non-Muslim) then a Muslim "can at best stay neutral"? What an utterly cowardly attitude.

It's not cowardice, it's called Muslim unity. We are not rats who stab each other in the back, unless one of us instigates it.