Peak Feminism: Sexual Favors For Free Housing

[TheLahoriGuy]

Dafuqs going on in this thread !!

Tabdeeli aa nahin rahee....
Tabdeeli aa kay challi bhee gayi hai.

 

[El Sidd]

Tabdeeli aa nahin rahee....
Tabdeeli aa kay challi bhee gayi hai.

tum gaye nahi abhi tak Azhar Ali kay sath Sri Nagar me Peaceful Mujra karne?

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

I am not talking about the entire corpus of Sharia Law. I understand that a lot of it is from rulings of Scholars of old (of course derived from Quran and Ahadith) and is often limited in scope and is not binding upon all times or all places. Please read the late Pakistan ideologue Muhammad Asad, director of the defunct Dept of Islamic reconstruction for more details.
(https://archive.org/stream/ThePrinciplesOfStateAndGovernmentInIslam/The Principles of State and Government in Islam#page/n0/mode/2up)

What I was talking about was a specific and clear law directly in the Quran which is generally applicable for all times and places (I am also aware that a judge may make an exception, but exceptions are rare by their very nature). So let me ask you do you agree with another unequal law directly in the Quran which is generally applicable for all times and places: a Man can have four wives (with certain conditions) but a woman only one husband?

Coming onto slavery. Islam wishes to eradicate slavery to other men and replace it with slavery to God and it is good the Muslim states have eradicated slavery. However no law in the Quran can be abrogated by any combination of States or Scholars. So the law which allows "right hand possessions" is valid of course with certain criteria. And I am agreeable to this. Even if Muslim states have eradicated slavery, slavery could come back again (temporarily) particularly during a war or after a war. Muslims may find themselves with slaves from the enemy and so there are law(s) for dealing with them with the view of re-integrating them back to society. Ideally there should not be any wars however as you know that ain't gonna happen. Secondly, an Islamic state might find itself, in future, in control of territory where slavery already exists and therefore there are laws in place to deal with this with the view of re-integrating slaves back into society. (This second point is unlikely nowadays but the first example still stands).
Even if all wars were eradicated and there was no slavery whatsoever, even then that law could not be abrogated as it is in the Quran and that book is valid till the Hour.

Please do not confuse the fact that their are laws about slaves in the Quran with the idea that the Quran promotes slavery or encourages Muslims to seek slaves.

You are fully aware that no Muslim state is truly acting in accordance with Quran and Sunnah, especially so called ISIS.

Now are there any other laws in the Quran that you are ashamed of??

If you understand something then why do you claim the exact opposite ? If you understand that the shariah is based off old schools of thought and is mainly relevant to the times that it was derived in then it's clear that certain amendments need to be made for it to be compatible with the modern world. And no I do not think it is suitable for either man or woman to have 4 spouses. It has no application in the modern world. Do you agree with it though ?

tum gaye nahi abhi tak Azhar Ali kay sath Sri Nagar me Peaceful Mujra karne?

Aap kay baghair hee challay jayain aisa kaisay ho jayay ?

 

[El Sidd]

Aap kay baghair hee challain jayain aisa kaisay ho jayay ?

triple talaq lele per chala ja

 

[SorryNotSorry]

@El Sidd on topic guftgu- if favors are given in return, then is it "free" like the title claims?
Basic barter

 

[El Sidd]

@El Sidd on topic guftgu- if favors are given in return, than is it "free" like the title claims?
Basic barter

there is no such thing as *free* in a barter either.
and this is a taxable business. whats the fuss about?

 

[SorryNotSorry]

there is no such thing as *free* in a barter either.
and this is a taxable business. whats the fuss about?

mehnat ki kamai hai boss

 

[El Sidd]

mehnat ki kamai hai boss

jealous hain ye sab...

kuch adat se majboor hain kuch dhande se majboor hain.....
sab apne apne butt kay pujari hai haulay baingan

 

[SorryNotSorry]

jealous hain ye sab...

kuch adat se majboor hain kuch dhande se majboor hain.....
sab apne apne butt kay pujari hai haulay baingan

 

[TMA]

If you understand something then why do you claim the exact opposite ? If you understand that the shariah is based off old schools of thought and is mainly relevant to the times that it was derived in then it's clear that certain amendments need to be made for it to be compatible with the modern world. And no I do not think it is suitable for either man or woman to have 4 spouses. It has no application in the modern world. Do you agree with it though ?



Aap kay baghair hee challay jayain aisa kaisay ho jayay ?

I never claimed that every single law in Sharia is for all times and places. I was writing about specific clear laws directly from the Quran, namely unequal inheritance and limited polygamy for men only.
Amendements can only be made to those laws directly not from the Quran and Sunnah. To do otherwise is to play God! And the Scholars/Muslim States have been doing this!
What is applicable for one man may not be for another. If you are not wanting to marry four, does not mean another does not want to marry four. If you cannot marry four does not mean another cannot. Applicability changes with times and places. I would agree that in the modern world it is very difficult to marry four, however I would not go so far as to ban that law or to say that I disagree with that law.

Do you agree with the modern world making Riba permissible?

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

I never claimed that every single law in Sharia is for all times and places. I was writing about specific clear laws directly from the Quran, namely unequal inheritance and limited polygamy for men only.
Amendements can only be made to those laws directly not from the Quran and Sunnah. To do otherwise is to play God! And the Scholars/Muslim States have been doing this!
What is applicable for one man may not be for another. If you are not wanting to marry four, does not mean another does not want to marry four. If you cannot marry four does not mean another cannot. Applicability changes with times and places. I would agree that in the modern world it is very difficult to marry four, however I would not go so far as to ban that law or to say that I disagree with that law.

Do you agree with the modern world making Riba permissible?

Well to be fair it doesn't matter whether I agree or not. A world without interest based transactions is impossible. This is like asking do I agree with people being employed. There can be no economic growth without interest all Muslim countries are aware of this (as do the lawmakers who are in dispute over the exact meaning of Rina). Even "Islamic Banking" knows this. If you don't "agree" with it then please put forward a system that could overhaul the existing one on a global scale.

 

[TMA]

Well to be fair it doesn't matter whether I agree or not. A world without interest based transactions is impossible. This is like asking do I agree with people being employed. There can be no economic growth without interest all Muslim countries are aware of this (as do the lawmakers who are in dispute over the exact meaning of Rina). Even "Islamic Banking" knows this. If you don't "agree" with it then please put forward a system that could overhaul the existing one on a global scale.

I am asking your heart whether you agree with it or not. I know your hand and tongue can do nothing.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I am not fan of modern feminism which often is not about equality of women but superiority of women by degrading and generalising men

But if women are differnt to men biologically then it dont mean that you should go for oppressing /controling/dictating them and should not give them equal rights and opportunities

Some men are just afraid of independent women and misogynists blame feminism to justify their sexist ideology

 

[Aramagedon]

Saudi Arabian Study: 23% of Arab Children Have Been Raped; 80% of Arab Students Are Homosexuals

Over 23% of Muslim children in a University study claimed to have been raped (1/4 of the entire population). Over 46% of Muslim male students in Riyadh are homosexuals, and over 25% of Muslim male student in Jeddah are homosexuals. Homosexual relations are common due to restriction of association between genders.
The actual percentage of sexual assault on children and women, beyond this University study, is believed to be over 80%.

(In broader surveys sexual assault and incest of children in Islamic societies are much higher than in this study.)

TRANSCRIPT:

Guest – More than 23% of children in Saudi society have been raped.

Host — So about a quarter of Saudi children have been–

Guest – About a quarter of Saudi children have been raped. Sixty-two percent of those people—

Host — Those children.

Guest – No, I’m sorry, the study was directed at university students. Twenty-three percent had been raped during their childhood. For 62% of those, the rape was never reported. This was because it was one of the victim’s relatives.
In the study, it was mentioned that more than 16% of the rapists were relatives, specifically 5% were siblings, 2% were teachers, and 1% were parents.
In another study, which was conducted by Dr. In’am (al-Rabu’i), who is the president of children’s studies at the Armed Forces Hospital in Jeddah, she mentioned, or warned, that in the coming years we will suffer as a society from extremely widespread cases of homosexuality. The reason for this is the increase in the cases of sexual assault of children (brought) to the hospital, as well as the societal violence inflicted on children. She also mentioned that the hospital had on average three sexual assault cases per week.

Host — How large of an area did the study cover?

Guest – I don’t know, this is just what she mentioned on behalf of the Saudi nation. It was published on behalf of the nation, and can be considered very reliable. In addition to that, there is a study from the Office of Societal Supervision, which is also very serious. This study reported that 46% of students in the city of Riyadh suffer from homosexuality. Twenty-five percent of students in Jeddah suffer from homosexuality. We must be aware of this in order to combat these numbers quickly. The society has become fragmented. When we have a percentage of students—children or teenagers—who are gay, this is a catastrophe, a true catastrophe. I mean, we don’t have a strong society. We should really look at this more seriously.

Host — This is a new thing in Saudi Arabia for newspapers to write articles on this subject. The studies which you mentioned, are they saying this is something new?

Guest – No, it’s not new.

 

[Metanoia]

To be brutally honest, it is not surprising at all! Anyone who has spent time in KSA outside of the compounds and especially in their childhood, they would be aware of the situation. Besides, the cursed homosexual behaviour has been plaguing EACH AND EVERY country I have ever visited, whether it's Pakistan, countries in South East Asia, and countries in Europe. As far as I know and what I have seen, Iran too is severely engulfed with the immoralities of homosexuality, fornication and adultery.

That's how the world is in this day and age.