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I think this is a much bigger problem. You believe in a book to be absolutely true, always. IMHO, it is not possible to have an absolute truth in matters like inheritance or family law. It needs to be decided on a case by case basis.

Like I have said in my post above Sharia is not black and white, but shades of grey.

Now you say that inheritance laws are not absolute, I agree, there will be exceptions. But I choose this specific example as it was the most clear cut and it is generally applicable.

If for the sake of argument there is a disagreement between sister and brother and they go to the (Islamic) court and the judge then rules that this law in the Quran is applicable, then as a Muslim you can disagree with the judge's interpretation or applicability but as a Muslim you cannot disagree with that UNEQUAL law being valid and available to be practiced? Can you??? And if the judge finds that in this particular case an exception is to be made, as a Muslim you can disagree with the judge's interpretation and lack of applicability but as a Muslim you cannot disagree with that UNEQUAL law being valid and available to be practiced (potentially)? Can you???

(I take it that you are Muslim?)
 
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Like I have said in my post above Sharia is not black and white, but shades of grey.

Now you say that inheritance laws are not absolute, I agree, there will be exceptions. But I choose this specific example as it was the most clear cut and it is generally applicable.

If for the sake of argument there is a disagreement between sister and brother and they go to the (Islamic) court and the judge then rules that this law in the Quran is applicable, then as a Muslim you can disagree with the judge's interpretation or applicability but as a Muslim you cannot disagree with that UNEQUAL law being valid and available to be practiced? Can you??? And if the judge finds that in this particular case an exception is to be made, as a Muslim you can disagree with the judge's interpretation and lack of applicability but as a Muslim you cannot disagree with that UNEQUAL law being valid and available to be practiced (potentially)? Can you???

(I take it that you are Muslim?)
Unfortunately, I am not a Muslim.

But I agree to your this point: Unequal Laws can be present in a justice system. Like maternity leave. You have to be fair not necessarily equal. What I will not agree to is that you have absolute laws in very subjective matters.
 
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@El Sidd @TMA @I.R.A @Desert Fox @Ocean @Asim B. @PakSword

"Women are now far more promiscuous than men," says shock new study. Young women are also twice as likely to be unfaithful, with 50% admitting they have cheated on their partner.

The sex survey, for More magazine, also found women crave more sex but still believe men enjoy it more than they do.
- By age 21 they have had sex with an average of 9 lovers - two more than their male partner.
- Young women are also twice as likely to be unfaithful, with 50% admitting they have cheated on a partner - half (25%) at least twice. Yet if their man was caught being unfaithful, 99% of the 2,000 women surveyed said they would show him the door.
- Only 32% believed love to be an important factor before having sex. Only 1% said they would wait until marriage to have sex.
- 1/4th said they would marry for money.
- 39% would sleep with their boss for a promotion.
- 27% would have an affair with a married man.
- 14% would sleep with their best friend's partner.

More statistics can be found at the source:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...far-promiscuous-men-says-shock-new-study.html

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UPDATED: 11:40 BST, 9 December 2008

It's 2018 currently, can you guys imagine the updated stats!

Frightening but I'm not surprised.
 
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Let me come to apostates first, there is difference of opinion as how to deal with them. Sharia is not a yes or no, black and white issue (of course there are black and white issues but also shades of grey). What is one's methodology first and foremost? That is the question.

Watch this video from

Now coming to the issue of morality and equality:
Let me take a specific example, a sister is to inherit one half of what her brother is to inherit.(I use this example as it is clear cut law that is generally applicable). This is in the Quran. This law is unequal. No two ways about. Now am I to say, that I, as a Muslim who accepts that the Quran is the Word of the Lord God who created Man and Woman, can opt and say I do not agree with this law? Can I as one who accepts the Quran say this? Well I can but then this raises the issue of whether do I really accept the Quran as the Word of the Lord God? Does it not???

Am I to understand that you as a Sunni male do not agree with this law? (Please note that I am not asking whether it is right or wrong but whether you agree with this or not?)

Ofcourse I don't.

As for the gray's you mentioned I don't think there are any. Either a person commits a crime or he doesn't. Either someone is an apostate or he isnt, and the punishment for him is already prescribed (although as far as I am aware of no muslim country in modern history has executed anyone on such charges because everyone realises how ridiculous the law is).
 
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Most Pakistani marriages tend to be organised prostitution where parents are offloading their liability and woman gains a living by opening her vagina..kids are produced as insurance policy. Nobody talks about this...it has completely destroyed Pakistani society with over population and crisis of health , hygiene, security, terrorism etc. I believe this is a far bigger hazard for our long term survival than some people freely exchanging their sexuality under their own will.
Only a 'mentally challenged' person would perceive marriage as a custom of prostitution. Wasn't expecting this nonsense from you.
 
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Is that why man are put in leadership position?
where?
Yes it is
no its not
Like you are reacting to this thread?
bro, the reaction to that was more extreme and childish, the men were making a fool of themselves, totally unmanly
no

Ask the Uni.

Dont do the crime if you cant do the Time
everyone did it, why was I the idiot that got caught
 
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Ofcourse I don't.

As for the gray's you mentioned I don't think there are any. Either a person commits a crime or he doesn't. Either someone is an apostate or he isnt, and the punishment for him is already prescribed (although as far as I am aware of no muslim country in modern history has executed anyone on such charges because everyone realises how ridiculous the law is).

You are a Lahori kanjar with no understanding of Islamic jurisprudence, so your assumption that apostates are killed is understandable.
 
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You are a Lahori kanjar with no understanding of Islamic jurisprudence, so your assumption that apostates are killed is understandable.

Coming from the same dude who was explaining different types of black labels in the favorite drinks thread. Back off to your ghetto you inbred paindu.
 
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everyone did it, why was I the idiot that got caught

makafaat e amal

@El Sidd @TMA @I.R.A @Desert Fox @Ocean @Asim B. @PakSword

"Women are now far more promiscuous than men," says shock new study. Young women are also twice as likely to be unfaithful, with 50% admitting they have cheated on their partner.

The sex survey, for More magazine, also found women crave more sex but still believe men enjoy it more than they do.
- By age 21 they have had sex with an average of 9 lovers - two more than their male partner.
- Young women are also twice as likely to be unfaithful, with 50% admitting they have cheated on a partner - half (25%) at least twice. Yet if their man was caught being unfaithful, 99% of the 2,000 women surveyed said they would show him the door.
- Only 32% believed love to be an important factor before having sex. Only 1% said they would wait until marriage to have sex.
- 1/4th said they would marry for money.
- 39% would sleep with their boss for a promotion.
- 27% would have an affair with a married man.
- 14% would sleep with their best friend's partner.

More statistics can be found at the source:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...far-promiscuous-men-says-shock-new-study.html

________________________________________________________________________________
UPDATED: 11:40 BST, 9 December 2008

It's 2018 currently, can you guys imagine the updated stats!


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I live in a small town some times i feel girls are given way more freedom...i say this cause there are 4 girls near my house and one widow...of this one girl has 3 boyfriends...the other two has more than one boyfriends each (they are both sisters)...another girl is just studying 8th std and she already has a boyfriend...and this young widow has hold your breath 11 boyfriends....i am not exaggerating here.
 
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I live in a small town some times i feel girls are given way more freedom...i say this cause there are 4 girls near my house and one widow...of this one girl has 3 boyfriends...the other two has more than one boyfriends each (they are both sisters)...another girl is just studying 8th std and she already has a boyfriend...and this young widow has hold your breath 11 boyfriends....i am not exaggerating here.

Enndian?
 
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