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Peace initiatives with Pakistan remain unsuccessful, says Afghan president

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Looks like his government is on the last legs. He will soon be replaced by someone like Abdullah who is the perfect Aamerican and Indian stooge.

After waiting for more than a year Ghani has now washed his hands of trying to persuade Pakistan to get the Taliban to hold talks.

Pakistan did bring Taliban to negotiation table but then they Killed Mullah mansoor so now they can screw themselves and burn.
 
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The Afghan president is gravely delusional. There is no security pact between our nations. Secondly, the Afghan president needs to grow up like a man and start taking care of its people who live in the millions in the same country he accuses of all sorts. The Afghan president needs to grow some shame and take back his own people.
 
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Relying on our supplies and demand peace from us like they have give us loan

It is our weakness not teaching lesson to them

If any other country would have been would have teach them a lesson

Once bought few weapons in 80s india close the trade route with Nepal to teach them lesson whom they rely luckyly Nepal is not land locked like Afghanistan China is cutting india trade routes with its new trade route with Nepal

Afghanistan heavily rely on Pak since India do not have any land connection with Afghanistan

Chabhar port is in complete and even if it is co.pleted it would make every daily usage goods twice the price what we are giving them

By closing Afghan route we send a message to Afghan minority pashtuns that minority Indian led govt is responsible for all this mess either stand against them and their policies or sterve to death

By chabhar port india will not only pump billions every year but won't get anything substantial one day you see india will criticise modus policies of wasting money on isolating Pakistan but at the end result they are isolated themselves

Remember few years back USA destroyed our posts in Afghan bordet we closed Afghan border for month USA came to its knees so we open the border for re supplies
 
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We need to start hurting Afghanistan, its as simple as that

This country is an enemy, we dont need to send mass invading armies

Send all Afghans home
Set up border systems
Set up a visa system so no visa no entry
Unless they have the right visa they cant work in Pakistan
Increase taxes for Afghans and trade going in and out of Afghanistan
Start restricting access to Pakistan, our road and rail networks and ports and tell them to start using chahbahar immediately
 
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he has no control over Kabul, the coalition govt is weak and taking flak...what better way than to deflect attention elsewhere?

They complain about cross border movements but then cry and whine when we erect trenches and fences (on our side). Confused people really. Either way, if Pakistan wanted to make their lives miserable we could. On the other hand we have been far too patient.


4 decades are more than a patience now without anymore sec send them out of Pakistan

Visa policies should be very very strict for Afghanis if we don't do it we are enemies of ourselfes

We need to start hurting Afghanistan, its as simple as that

This country is an enemy, we dont need to send mass invading armies

Send all Afghans home
Set up border systems
Set up a visa system so no visa no entry
Unless they have the right visa they cant work in Pakistan
Increase taxes for Afghans and trade going in and out of Afghanistan
Start restricting access to Pakistan, our road and rail networks and ports and tell them to start using chahbahar immediately
Brother no work visa should be issued for Afghanis in first place our own people are jobless better fill our people in jobs first

Infact no permanent visa should be issued for Afghanis 2 month visa is enough with 200 dollar for visa issue 100 dollar for extending 1 month 1 extra day in Pak 100 dollar each day
 
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As an alternative to the namak haram Afghans walking into Pakistan for medical treatment and easy tax free earning a work visa for the right responsible Afghans is a God send
 
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that was not bad diplomacy but arm twisting. In simple language backstabbing & double speak. Only difference is that diplomats dint physically assault the other team other than that every thing is same. Has not India seen the same stuff,you have talks on day1 and attacks on day2. Thats not bad diplomacy that is making a point to intimidate the opposition to give in or else. As I said , diplomats cannot indulge in such kind of open stuff, you do it in a sneaky way .
Dude...what you are missing is looking at it from Pakistan perspective...when i say bad diplomacy then i am referring to Pak diplomats...that is their job...not to let the relationship take U turns and keep managing that aspect...now last thing Pakistan would want it a completely hostile AF along with continuation of their policy of keeping control on strategic depth by keeping taliban afloat...b/w PAK-AF border is porous with safe sanctuaries for terrorist hitting the opposite party...
 
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Peace initiatives with Pakistan remain unsuccessful, says Afghan president
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Ghani says Pakistan's dangerous distinction between good and bad terrorists is being maintained in practice. ─Afghan President's website
KARACHI: Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on Saturday said the peace initiatives taken by Afghanistan with Pakistan are not successful as Pakistan differentiates between good and bad terrorists "in practice".

"Our regional initiatives with neighbours are beginning to yield significant cooperative dividends. However, the exception is with Pakistan," the Afghan president said during his speech on second day of Nato summit.

He added that despite clear commitments to the quadrilateral peace process, "Pakistan's dangerous distinction between good and bad terrorists is being maintained in practice."

"The key problem among our neighbouring states is an absence of agreed rules of the game, thus we seek regional and global support in creating those rules, which will bind us to collective security and harmony," said Ghani.

The Afghan president maintained that the world leaders should understand that Afghanistan is facing a multi-dimensional conflict and is fighting all sorts of groups "ranging from Al-Qaeda and Daesh to terrorist groups with Central Asian, Chinese, and Russian origins, to Pakistani groups classified as terrorists by Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban groups".

Also Read: Afghan refugee camps 'safe havens' for terrorists: Aziz‏

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US President Obama shakes hand with Ashraf Ghani during the Nato summit at Warsaw. ─Afghan President's Twitter profile


Citing the 2015 Makka declaration against terrorism as an example, Ghani claimed that Afghanistan's dialogue within the Arab-Muslim community was also productive.

He was of the view that the recent terrorist attack near the Mosque of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) in Medina has outraged the Muslim community and "should result in a consensus against the tiny minority that is attempting to hijack our civilization".

Related: Suicide blast near Masjid-i-Nabvi kills four security officials

Ghani thanked all the Nato countries for "fighting shoulder to shoulder" with Afghanistan's own forces and claimed that the organisation has maintained its relevance and effectiveness in the paradigm shift presented by post-9/11 Afghanistan.

"The organization’s fulfillment of both its combat and support missions in Afghanistan is a corroboration of NATO’s continued global relevance, adaptability and effectiveness. Its transformative legacy, however, is building our 352,000 strong security and defense forces," said Ghani.

He also thanked United States (US) President Obama for expanding the authorities of the Resolute Support Mission and his latest decision to maintain American troops throughout his term.

Related: Obama expands US military commitment to Afghanistan

FO disappointed over Ghani's remarks
Foreign Office (FO) strongly reacted to the Afghan president's speech at the Nato summit and said that Ashraf Ghani's remarks were disappointing and a continuation of Afghan government's policy of blaming Pakistan for its failures.

"Pakistan is disappointed with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani's remarks at the Nato Summit. It is unfortunate that Afghan leaders continue to make hostile statements against Pakistan and blame Pakistan for all failures in Afghanistan", FO spokesman Nafees Zakaria said.

The spokesman added that Pakistan will continue to make every effort to help bring peace in Afghanistan as peace in the neighbouring country is in Pakistan's interest.

Zakaria maintained that Pakistan also expects cooperation from Afghan government in its fight against terrorism through effective border management and denying sanctuaries to anti-Pakistan terrorists from Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).

"The need of the hour is close cooperation between Afghanistan and Pakistan rather than constant blame game by the Afghan government based on assumptions," the FO spokesman added.


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truth is afghan warlords don't want to share power with taliban leadership in case of any agreement. i don't see peace in afghanistan in next 200 years with these smugglers in government.
 
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Looks like somebody is still sore about the spanking his army got. We should build another gate on the border and name it after Ghani .

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We thought he was pro Pak and you indians saw him as anti indian. On this very forum indians showed displeasure of him being pro Pak being elected into office. However the tune changed and he became pro indian and anti Pak. Its Moohdhi Ji's Tea service that must have done it.
I wonder that too. How did this happen ??? There must be a better reason than the one mentioned above. Any senior member can answer ??? @Oscar and anybody who want to answer.
 
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This is madness on part of AF gov. Surely, they must realise that reading the script from foreign eastern player is not really in the best interest of their country. Do not they have the best interest of their people at heart?

This has become comic. Sad but comic. By turning the public opinion in Pk the will only isolate themselves. PK should have sent back Afs living within its borders. Or they must send them to the east. After all if their is strategic convergence between easter player and Af gov then surely they should also host the AFs.

This silly from AF side atognising PK.
 
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This is madness on part of AF gov. Surely, they must realise that reading the script from foreign eastern player is not really in the best interest of their country. Do not they have the best interest of their people at heart?

This has become comic. Sad but comic. By turning the public opinion in Pk the will only isolate themselves. PK should have sent back Afs living within its borders. Or they must send them to the east. After all if their is strategic convergence between easter player and Af gov then surely they should also host the AFs.

This silly from AF side atognising PK.
They are very unwise.
 
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