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Peace initiatives with Pakistan remain unsuccessful, says Afghan president

After waiting for more than a year Ghani has now washed his hands of trying to persuade Pakistan to get the Taliban to hold talks.
 
Pakistan is truly a weak and pathetic state. A country such as Afghanistan continues to insult and spread lies about Pak yet the government and military only continue to appease them. Kick out every single Afghan scum refugee and illegal. And bomb all TTP hideouts in Afghanistan. Even after coward Afghans attacked our border posts, the military refused any strict action.
 
After waiting for more than a year Ghani has now washed his hands of trying to persuade Pakistan to get the Taliban to hold talks.
ahhh what peace. The so called peace effort was a covert assassination plot. make peace on top and then track them and kill them. it has not worked. as for bringing taliban to the table we did it and now it has proven be the biggest mistake we made. I am glad they have washed their hands now die in your pit together.

one more thing for your memory it was the yanks that opened a office in Qatar or allowed/persuaded to talk to taliban and they were the ones that forced us and that was before ghani come to power!!! if they still f#ck it up then blame is on their shoulders not ours we brought them to the table and they destroyed it themselves.
 
The ground realities have changed. The Pakistani Government is being forced by the people and the army to send back the refugees which will restructure the Afghan nation in terms of policies and decisions.
We should learn to become deaf to the Afghan statements and proceed with our objectives. Complete the walling, return the refugees and then think of dialogue.
Maybe strengthen and broaden our reach so we can go after the TTP through our extended arms.



Well said!! this is the best respond to the current situation.
 
some diplomatic blunders by Pak...the diplomats should get a good spanking!!
No, When you end up getting hit with attacks & blasts while negotiating peace you realize talks are not going to take you too far. Ghani was just a tubelight who could not see the writing on the wall till the wall fell on him.
 
No, When you end up getting hit with attacks & blasts while negotiating peace you realize talks are not going to take you too far. Ghani was just a tubelight who could not see the writing on the wall till the wall fell on him.
That proves my point...there was a window but bad diplomacy let it go!!
 
Pakistan is truly a weak and pathetic state. A country such as Afghanistan continues to insult and spread lies about Pak yet the government and military only continue to appease them.

Completely agree with this part.

Solution you provided is unworkable.
 
That proves my point...there was a window but bad diplomacy let it go!!
that was not bad diplomacy but arm twisting. In simple language backstabbing & double speak. Only difference is that diplomats dint physically assault the other team other than that every thing is same. Has not India seen the same stuff,you have talks on day1 and attacks on day2. Thats not bad diplomacy that is making a point to intimidate the opposition to give in or else. As I said , diplomats cannot indulge in such kind of open stuff, you do it in a sneaky way .
 
After waiting for more than a year Ghani has now washed his hands of trying to persuade Pakistan to get the Taliban to hold talks.

Honestly do you really believe that Pakistan literally controls the Taliban. Dude those people control the momentum of the battlefield in Afghanistan, majority of ISAF forces have left, these guys can take over major urban centers at will , sometimes as far as Tajikistan border (Kunduz episode). First Pentagon referred to them as dialogue partners, then Americans even met Akhtar Mansur face to face in Murree dialogue and continued to meet him at different locations before taking him out. US interlocutors met Talibs from Norway to Beijing to Qatar to Dubai and in Islamabad. It is clear they don't wanna talk and Pakistan can't do anything about it. These people couldn't be controlled by one of the most powerful military coalition of more than 30 countries , how can you believe that they are puppets of Pakistan. Ghani's diatribe against Pakistan is to solidify his political standing in Kabul, nothing else.
 
Peace initiatives with Pakistan remain unsuccessful, says Afghan president
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Ghani says Pakistan's dangerous distinction between good and bad terrorists is being maintained in practice. ─Afghan President's website
KARACHI: Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on Saturday said the peace initiatives taken by Afghanistan with Pakistan are not successful as Pakistan differentiates between good and bad terrorists "in practice".

"Our regional initiatives with neighbours are beginning to yield significant cooperative dividends. However, the exception is with Pakistan," the Afghan president said during his speech on second day of Nato summit.

He added that despite clear commitments to the quadrilateral peace process, "Pakistan's dangerous distinction between good and bad terrorists is being maintained in practice."

"The key problem among our neighbouring states is an absence of agreed rules of the game, thus we seek regional and global support in creating those rules, which will bind us to collective security and harmony," said Ghani.

The Afghan president maintained that the world leaders should understand that Afghanistan is facing a multi-dimensional conflict and is fighting all sorts of groups "ranging from Al-Qaeda and Daesh to terrorist groups with Central Asian, Chinese, and Russian origins, to Pakistani groups classified as terrorists by Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban groups".

Also Read: Afghan refugee camps 'safe havens' for terrorists: Aziz‏

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US President Obama shakes hand with Ashraf Ghani during the Nato summit at Warsaw. ─Afghan President's Twitter profile


Citing the 2015 Makka declaration against terrorism as an example, Ghani claimed that Afghanistan's dialogue within the Arab-Muslim community was also productive.

He was of the view that the recent terrorist attack near the Mosque of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) in Medina has outraged the Muslim community and "should result in a consensus against the tiny minority that is attempting to hijack our civilization".

Related: Suicide blast near Masjid-i-Nabvi kills four security officials

Ghani thanked all the Nato countries for "fighting shoulder to shoulder" with Afghanistan's own forces and claimed that the organisation has maintained its relevance and effectiveness in the paradigm shift presented by post-9/11 Afghanistan.

"The organization’s fulfillment of both its combat and support missions in Afghanistan is a corroboration of NATO’s continued global relevance, adaptability and effectiveness. Its transformative legacy, however, is building our 352,000 strong security and defense forces," said Ghani.

He also thanked United States (US) President Obama for expanding the authorities of the Resolute Support Mission and his latest decision to maintain American troops throughout his term.

Related: Obama expands US military commitment to Afghanistan

FO disappointed over Ghani's remarks
Foreign Office (FO) strongly reacted to the Afghan president's speech at the Nato summit and said that Ashraf Ghani's remarks were disappointing and a continuation of Afghan government's policy of blaming Pakistan for its failures.

"Pakistan is disappointed with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani's remarks at the Nato Summit. It is unfortunate that Afghan leaders continue to make hostile statements against Pakistan and blame Pakistan for all failures in Afghanistan", FO spokesman Nafees Zakaria said.

The spokesman added that Pakistan will continue to make every effort to help bring peace in Afghanistan as peace in the neighbouring country is in Pakistan's interest.

Zakaria maintained that Pakistan also expects cooperation from Afghan government in its fight against terrorism through effective border management and denying sanctuaries to anti-Pakistan terrorists from Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).

"The need of the hour is close cooperation between Afghanistan and Pakistan rather than constant blame game by the Afghan government based on assumptions," the FO spokesman added.


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Good one now extend the stay of Afghans more perhaps a year after these 6months expire. After all we are the kind of people who after getting slapped on one cheek will present the other one .
 
As long as you support TTP and Pakistan support Haqania then there wouldn't be any lasting peace in the region.
 
he has no control over Kabul, the coalition govt is weak and taking flak...what better way than to deflect attention elsewhere?

They complain about cross border movements but then cry and whine when we erect trenches and fences (on our side). Confused people really. Either way, if Pakistan wanted to make their lives miserable we could. On the other hand we have been far too patient.
 

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