Parents murder Delhi University student: So much for educating the girl child

[Levina]

i agree... those seem to be more liberal than rest of india.



well, one thing happened in 1989... the irani mullah, khomenei, issued death "fatwa" against salman rushdie, even though khomenei is a fake himself... and since then, south asia has seen more wrong attitudes in muslims... even the west asian nations were revolted by the mullahs of khomenei, which is why iraq fought such a long war with iran.

and your other date, 2009... three days ago, ravi nair said that in kerala, it was around 2009 that he saw muslim ladies changing their dressing... i mean, adopting the burqa or full-dupatta-over-head.

i myself have seen my family females changing dress style in the last twenty years.

but sincerely, the cases of "honor killing" that used to occur among non-muslims in india got a boost when they looked at "muslims" begin wearing burqa and kurta-pyjama-beard... the non-muslims got encouragement from this and continued their practices even more.

it is only in the last ten years that "honor killing" as a term has become called a crime... otherwise, south asia has typically the attitude of "parents are next to god".

you are right... the south american countries had influence of catholic culture ( which is quite moralistic )... but the bolivarian socialist revolution of hugo chavez is changing south america.

true... but mostly i would say, among the south asian migrants in britain.

If honor killings 've increased in recent years then its because today we meet ppl of all sorts of background.Earlier there used to be restrictions to girls going out for higher studies and also patriarchal family structure did not approve of gals and guys mingling in a friendly manner.
Because such crimes 're usually committed by family members (nearly in two thirds of such cases) ergo its easy to destroy evidence and also such parents do get support from the society too.

 

[jamahir]

If honor killings 've increased in recent years then its because today we meet ppl of all sorts of background.Earlier there used to be restrictions to girls going out for higher studies and also patriarchal family structure did not approve of gals and guys mingling in a friendly manner.
Because such crimes 're usually committed by family members (nearly in two thirds of such cases) ergo its easy to destroy evidence and also such parents do get support from the society too.

very good analysis... but one thing i will add...

"patriarchy" is not at fault... even soviet union and any revolutionary society is mostly created by males... patriarchy there too... this i have said to razia sultana earlier in the thread... you will have seen it.

but otherwise you explanation is superb... i will quote it in other places and other times.

i want to go off-topic to suggest to you the new film, "happy ending"... it has a unique story and has good comedy... intelligent film... of course, i actually went for the heroine, ileana... though she must become chubby... she's thin now...

 

[Levina]

very good analysis... but one thing i will add...

"patriarchy" is not at fault... even soviet union and any revolutionary society is mostly created by males... patriarchy there too... this i have said to razia sultana earlier in the thread... you will have seen it.

but otherwise you explanation is superb... i will quote it in other places and other times.

yeah patriarchy alone is not to be blamed....may be it has something to do with conservative societies in this part of the world. We 're pseudo liberals!!
we have yet to come to terms with caste/religion related issues.Like if you take the example of India with its multi-culture and religions, its highly probable that a gal would fall for a guy who might not be her caste or religion while shes studying in college/school.

i want to go off-topic to suggest to you the new film, "happy ending"... it has a unique story and has good comedy... intelligent film... of course, i actually went for the heroine, ileana... though she must become chubby... she's thin now...

I like Ileana..she's a good actress with an innocent yet pretty face and also (in my view)somebody who is blessed with right proportions of curves. I dont wish to continue this discussion as men here often misunderstand me. Lol.
But thanks for the suggestion.

 

[jamahir]

@levina i am quite sleepy... see you tomorrow...

 

[KingMamba]

Sad but not particularly shocking in South Asia in general for such things to occur.

 

[Jf Thunder]

well, with court sanction, i volunteer to shoot them.

well, that would be too a painless death for them.

 

[jamahir]

well, that would be too a painless death for them.

in that case... shots to the knee-cap, then waiting, then to the elbow-cap, then waiting, then to spine, then waiting, then to the edge of neck, then waiting, then from side just below brain, then waiting, then waiting, then waiting, then to the brain.

 

[Jf Thunder]

in that case... shots to the knee-cap, then waiting, then to the elbow-cap, then waiting, then to spine, then waiting, then to the edge of neck, then waiting, then from side just below brain, then waiting, then waiting, then waiting, then to the brain.

good enough, you are closest to them, do it