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Allah ki hikmat ko question karna tou achi baat nahi. Lekin zaroori nahi ke pani ke bulbulay jitni zindagi main hi inn ki pakar ho.

Hamaray liey tou in ki dheel ka period buhat lamba Hai, Allah ke liey 50, 60 ya 100 saal ya even aik laakh saal aik bulbulay ki life jitnay bhi nahi.

Jis din insaan ko apni zindagi ki haqeeqat samajh aajaey tou woh masjid main hi boria bister samait shift hojaey.

Sabir log wohi hotay hain Jin ke liey yeh life kuchh hours se ziada nahi lagti. Unhain maloom hota Hai ke zalim ka zulm kuchh hours par muheet Hai. Mujh jaisay aadmi ke liey kuchh hours ka sabar bhi sadion ke barabar lagta Hai. Issi liey main besabra aur nashukra hun. Waliullah sabar aur shukar walay hotay hain.


Ye rahbaaniyat ka dars hai jo islam kay shadeed manafi hai.

Isse to ab na phelaye.

Just one question.. Why was monitoring judge..appointed? Wasnt it his duty to ensure tht weakness in laws/ proceedings isnt exploited ...and tht these trials end within specific time period? If he cant even ensure tht trial is completed within six months.....why was monitoring judge..even appointed? Koi iss sawaal ka jaawb de dey mujhe..tu shayad kuch sukoon aajaye..

Monitoring judge was to ensure that SC remains relevant to the public eye.

Qanooni hasiyat monitoring judge ki clerk se ziada nahi nab cases me.
 
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Allah ki hikmat ko question karna tou achi baat nahi. Lekin zaroori nahi ke pani ke bulbulay jitni zindagi main hi inn ki pakar ho.

Hamaray liey tou in ki dheel ka period buhat lamba Hai, Allah ke liey 50, 60 ya 100 saal ya even aik laakh saal aik bulbulay ki life jitnay bhi nahi.

Jis din insaan ko apni zindagi ki haqeeqat samajh aajaey tou woh masjid main hi boria bister samait shift hojaey.

Sabir log wohi hotay hain Jin ke liey yeh life kuchh hours se ziada nahi lagti. Unhain maloom hota Hai ke zalim ka zulm kuchh hours par muheet Hai. Mujh jaisay aadmi ke liey kuchh hours ka sabar bhi sadion ke barabar lagta Hai. Issi liey main besabra aur nashukra hun. Waliullah sabar aur shukar walay hotay hain.

Lekin main jaanna chahti hoon ke inn main itni kiya khusoosiyat hain...jo inki qismat inka itna saath deti hai? Makafaat e amal bhi tu hota hai.. Inhon ne kitnon ka haqq khaaya..kitnay log inki wajah se bhookay maray..kitnay yateem huay honge..jhootay yeh..be imaan yeh...phir bhi?

Maanti hoon ke hum sabir nahi.. Hum Wali nahi..hum be sabray hain..... Lekin ye sharifs kia hain? Inko kitnay logon ki aahein lagi hongi.lekin inn par koi asar hi nahi.. Har baar qismat inka saath deti hai.. Akhir kiun? Hazrat Umar (R.A) tu kehtay thay ke bakri ka bacha bhi marr jaye tu mujh se poocha jaayega... Sharif famiky ke daur main kitnay log marr gaye bhookay..kitnon ka haq khaaya inhon ne..kitnay jhoot bolay....kia dunya main makafaat e amal nahi hoga?
 
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Lekin main jaanna chahti hoon ke inn main itni kiya khusoosiyat hain...jo inki qismat inka itna saath deti hai? Makafaat e amal bhi tu hota hai.. Inhon ne kitnon ka haqq khaaya..kitnay log inki wajah se bhookay maray..kitnay yaterm huay honge..jhootay yeh..be imaan yeh...phir bhi?

Maanti hoon ke hum sabir nahi.. Hum Wali nahi..hum be sabray hain..... Lekin ye sharifs kia hain? Inko kitnay logon ki aahein lagi hongi.lekin inn par koi asar hi nahi.. Har baar qismat inka saath deti hai.. Akhir kiun? Hazrat Umar (R.A) tu kehtay thay ke bakri ka bacha bhi marr jaye tu mujh se poocha jaayega... Sharif famiky ke daur main kitnay log marr gaye bhookay..kitnon ka haq khaaya inhon ne..kitnay jhoot bolay....kia dunya main makafaat e amal nahi hoga?

Uska naam qayamat hai. Wa Adam ke bachon ka makafaat e amal hai. Aakhri mukamal azaab.

Humse behtar yahan abaad hojaege or wo koi ziada kaam ayen hikmat ye kehti hai hamara maqsad kuch or hay. Hukumraani hamare DNA me nahi.

Khushnaseeb hain hum per nadaan hai hum. Allah kay razon me ek raaz.
 
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Btw., there is no NRO; and I am not sure what are referring as NRO......like what are salient points that we are alluding to for that "supposed" NRO? ....Like let Nawaz go to London, for what in exchange, to let systems get strengthened through SCP and PA? There are things that are happening ...yes. But to paint it with the same brush as Musharraf times NRO is bizarre to say the least. Conditions were different and we can discuss those threadbare....but almost none except one condition is still similar.....but lets not go there as it's not apples to apples comparison.

It's not a NRO. But he is being allowed to go out. There is nothing in exchange wanted from him, except his leave forever. I am just telling you what I have heard so far. Maybe I am wrong.

The laws are such that they can be applied on the basis of salary not received. The only thing wanted is a Man as a judge who can apply the laws to provide maximum Justice. Right now, the same laws are being applied to give maximum relaxation.
 
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The laws are such that they can be applied on the basis of salary not received. The only thing wanted is a Man as a judge who can apply the laws to provide maximum Justice. Right now, the same laws are being applied to give maximum relaxation.

@bold DITTO.... Cant agree more.... Kaash :(
 
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Lekin main jaanna chahti hoon ke inn main itni kiya khusoosiyat hain...jo inki qismat inka itna saath deti hai? Makafaat e amal bhi tu hota hai.. Inhon ne kitnon ka haqq khaaya..kitnay log inki wajah se bhookay maray..kitnay yateem huay honge..jhootay yeh..be imaan yeh...phir bhi?

Maanti hoon ke hum sabir nahi.. Hum Wali nahi..hum be sabray hain..... Lekin ye sharifs kia hain? Inko kitnay logon ki aahein lagi hongi.lekin inn par koi asar hi nahi.. Har baar qismat inka saath deti hai.. Akhir kiun? Hazrat Umar (R.A) tu kehtay thay ke bakri ka bacha bhi marr jaye tu mujh se poocha jaayega... Sharif famiky ke daur main kitnay log marr gaye bhookay..kitnon ka haq khaaya inhon ne..kitnay jhoot bolay....kia dunya main makafaat e amal nahi hoga?

Makafaat e Amal ho bhi sakta Hai aur nahi bhi.

Firoun jab bachay qatal kar raha tha tou har maan yehi sochti hogi ke iss main aisa kia?

Makafaat e Amal duniya main bhi hosakta Hai, aur aakhirat main bhi.

Allah ne har insaan ko aik had Tak taqat di hai. Uss se aagay sabar aur shukar Hai. Aap main jitni taqat Hai aap utna hi koshish karsakti hain, uss se aagay Allah hi mukammil Malik hota Hai.

Bass insaan ko kabhi bhi Allah ki strategy ko question nahi karna chahiey.
 
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It's not a NRO. But he is being allowed to go out. There is nothing in exchange wanted from him, except his leave forever. I am just telling you what I have heard so far. Maybe I am wrong.

The laws are such that they can be applied on the basis of salary not received. The only thing wanted is a Man as a judge who can apply the laws to provide maximum Justice. Right now, the same laws are being applied to give maximum relaxation.

Its NRO.

When there is no accountability. Its reconciliation.

2007 was ZRO. Zardari
2017 is SRO. Sharifs

Altaf idiot ko wo bhi nahi mila.

Lol
 
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Well atleast capt safdar is going to arrested.a good news if this is the case? But why on earth is that stupid judge not issuing nonb warrants gainst maryam? Why is she so special??:/
 
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Well atleast capt safdar is going to arrested.a good news if this is the case? But why on earth is that stupid judge not issuing nonb warrants gainst maryam? Why is she so special??:/

Mujhe tu lagta hai ke sab se bara mukmuka/ NRO tu basheeray ne kar liya hai.. Ye wohi izzat maab judge hain jinhon ne zardari ko bhi ba izzat bari kar diya tha....

Makafaat e Amal ho bhi sakta Hai aur nahi bhi.

Firoun jab bachay qatal kar raha tha tou har maan yehi sochti hogi ke iss main aisa kia?

Makafaat e Amal duniya main bhi hosakta Hai, aur aakhirat main bhi.

Allah ne har insaan ko aik had Tak taqat di hai. Uss se aagay sabar aur shukar Hai. Aap main jitni taqat Hai aap utna hi koshish karsakti hain, uss se aagay Allah hi mukammil Malik hota Hai.

Bass insaan ko kabhi bhi Allah ki strategy ko question nahi karna chahiey.

Mujhe tu yeh lagta hai ke inki wajah se kahin Allah na karay...mera imaan hi garbara na jaaye..

Aksar bhtt achay logon ke saath bhtt bura hotay bhi dkeha hai..jin ki musalsal azmaayeshein chal rahi hun..aur kabhi sharif family jaisy logon ka qismat musalsal saath de rahi ho..

Allah..bas mujhe mehfooz rakhay..hum sab ka imaan qaym rakhay..
 
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Well atleast capt safdar is going to arrested.a good news if this is the case? But why on earth is that stupid judge not issuing nonb warrants gainst maryam? Why is she so special??:/


Inshallah soon. You will inshallah witness that as well.
 
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Mujhe tu lagta hai ke sab se bara mukmuka/ NRO tu basheeray ne kar liya hai.. Ye wohi izzat maab judge hain jinhon ne zardari ko bhi ba izzat bari kar diya tha....

:rofl:

What should be the title of new movie?
Basheera in action OR

Basheera in inaction
 
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Capt Safdar will only be arrested for 8 hours before accountability court gives him bail while also handing the opportunity to PMLN to cry about victimization. What a bloody joke.
 
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Makafaat e Amal ho bhi sakta Hai aur nahi bhi.

Firoun jab bachay qatal kar raha tha tou har maan yehi sochti hogi ke iss main aisa kia?

Makafaat e Amal duniya main bhi hosakta Hai, aur aakhirat main bhi.

Allah ne har insaan ko aik had Tak taqat di hai. Uss se aagay sabar aur shukar Hai. Aap main jitni taqat Hai aap utna hi koshish karsakti hain, uss se aagay Allah hi mukammil Malik hota Hai.

Bass insaan ko kabhi bhi Allah ki strategy ko question nahi karna chahiey.

Sir bani Israel ki misaal na den.

Wo Messiah ka intezar me thi. Unka imaan hogaya tha kay halat sirf Nabi badlega.

Apne paas koi options nahi hai. Yaha koi nabi nahi araha. Yaha to azaab araha hai
 
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Mujhe tu lagta hai ke sab se bara mukmuka/ NRO tu basheeray ne kar liya hai.. Ye wohi izzat maab judge hain jinhon ne zardari ko bhi ba izzat bari kar diya tha....



Mujhe tu yeh lagta hai ke inki wajah se kahin Allah na karay...mera imaan hi garbara na jaaye..

Aksar bhtt achay logon ke saath bhtt bura hotay bhi dkeha hai..jin ki musalsal azmaayeshein chal rahi hun..aur kabhi sharif family jaisy logon ka qismat musalsal saath de rahi ho..

Allah..bas mujhe mehfooz rakhay..hum sab ka imaan qaym rakhay..

Nahi in shaa Allah aisa nahi hoga

Sir bani Israel ki misaal na den.

Wo Messiah ka intezar me thi. Unka imaan hogaya tha kay halat sirf Nabi badlega.

Apne paas koi options nahi hai. Yaha koi nabi nahi araha. Yaha to azaab araha hai

Nabi (saw) ki ummat par ijtemai azab nahi aayega. Sirf aazmaishain.

Baqi yahan bhi har firqa kisi na kisi ke intezar main Hai.

Sab se bari burai hum main yeh Hai ke hum apnay aap ko chuni huee qaum samajhtay hain. Halat tou dekho aur soch dekho.

Bani Israel ki misaal iss liey bhi di ke woh bhi chunay huay thay
 
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It's not a NRO. But he is being allowed to go out. There is nothing in exchange wanted from him, except his leave forever. I am just telling you what I have heard so far. Maybe I am wrong.

The laws are such that they can be applied on the basis of salary not received. The only thing wanted is a Man as a judge who can apply the laws to provide maximum Justice. Right now, the same laws are being applied to give maximum relaxation.

Law has never been applied on any powerful be it Musharraf, Zardari, Zia, Yahya, Nawaz, or Ch Iftikhar, Mean Mansha, Malik Riaz, Salman Farooqui etc., just to give examples of cross section of ashrafiya and hundreds more in the past or present. That's a plain and simple fact. Isn't it?

As said thousands of time before over here; bureaucracy is the kingpin. Whoever will be at front; will succumb to it. Massive cleanup is not possible if we remain within the decayed and rotten to the core system. If we believe that incremental change will happen with each passing day; it ain't happening. No country like ours in the history has risen from 0 to 1, 1 to 2, 2 to 3, either they have gone down the drain or have shook up the foundations and made change from 0-20, 0-30 types.

We as a nation has compromised at all levels; the same feudal lords that study in west and abide by every law during their education (while doing College / University) and are champions of every right movement; the moment they step out of aeroplane and land in Pakistan; revel in being above the law.

Almost all sitting MNAs and Bureaucrats who have studied and lived in west lived their lives according to law; they love breaking/twisting/beating the law when they are in land of pure. So; it's in their interest to let the system prevail as dismantling of it and applying the law in toto is their death at their own hands; and suicide is a sin - they totally agree here!

I have different information from four different sources; (AF, CS, Politicians and Diplomats) and I know there is give and take, but NRO is a totally different ball game, as some people terming as NRO; without specifying the basis or their supporting arguments.

Nawaz is chief beneficiary of this rotten system and irony is those powers that created it; can't undo it with a wave of magic wand; they can't control a joker named AH even though trying their best for so many years; so how can they (Pakistan Army and Judiciary by and large) or anyone else dismantle their own ladla in just a matter of weeks.
 
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