Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

[koolio]

It looks like Pti is doomed, this bootlicker of Godfather will make sure shameless, corrupt thieves of Noony tunes win elections.

 

[Shane]

May be PTI will wake up and stop celebrating its future self imaginary win already and start working hard to make it actually possible rather than be gifted by circumstances.

Anything can happen if you fight political battles harder on political grounds.

PTI needs to fold its sleeves up. Target 160 seats instead of targeting 100 seats in NA. Aim high like IK told his followers in MinarePakistan Himself.

 

[Shane]

This is some serious allegation @PakSword @Farah Sohail .

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001234383959883776

(Nisar Khosa worked under Shahbaz for two plus years from Feb 2010 as Chief Secretary and then for Nawaz for three months as Principle Secretary in 2013, he then retired and was appointed in World Bank. This property was probably purchased during his World Bank days in the US.)

 

[QatariPrince]

بیان شروع سے پہلے مریم نواز نے کیپٹن صفدر کو پاس بلا لیا
مریم نواز نے کیپٹن صفدر کےبیان کی کاپی کا معائنہ کیا. جس کے بعد مریم نواز نے بیان کی کاپیاں کیپٹن صفدر کو واپس کر دی
احتساب عدالت میں کیپٹن صفدر کا بیان شروع. نواز شریف اور مریم نواز کیپٹن صفدر کو اکیلا چھوڑ کر روانہ
نیب پراسیکیوٹر کا کیپٹن صدر کا بیان انکے وکیل کی جانب سے لکھوانے پر اعتراض
ہم نے ان کو اتنا ریلیکس کر رکھا ہے لیکن یہ جواب دینے کا کوئی طریقہ کار نہیں، سوال ملزم سے کیا جائے اور جواب وکیل دے، نیب پراسیکیوٹر
تینوں ملزمان کے جوابات ایک جیسے ہیں عدالت کا وقت بچایا جائے، سردار مظفر
ہم تو کسی گواہ سے ملیں تو انہیں اعتراض ہوتا ہے، یہ ملزم کا بیان لکھ بھی لائیں تو کوئی مسلئہ نہِیں، نیب پراسیکیوٹر
گواہ کو ملنا بہت بڑا گناہ ہے، ملزمان کے ایک جیسے بیان پر ہمیں فائدہ ہے، نیب پراسیکیوٹر
لگتا ہے کیپٹن صفدر صاحب، آپ سوال پڑھ کر ہی نہیں آئے، نیب پراسیکیوٹر
سوال ہی نہیں پوری تراویح بھی پڑھیں ہیں، کیپٹن صفدر کا جواب
جے آئی ٹی میں پانچ گھنٹے کی ریکارڈنگ کی گئی، کیپٹن صفدر
جے آئی ٹی میں باقاعدہ آڈیو ریکارڈنگ کا ریکارڈ موجود ہے کیپٹن صفدر
جے آئی ٹی میں اتنا سخت ماحول تھا جیسے جنگی قیدی بیٹھے یوں، کیپٹن صفدر
آپ براہ راست نیب پراسیکیوٹر سے بات نہ کریں، وکیل امجد پرویز کی کیپٹن صفدر کو ہدایت
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[Shane]

Even if one can justify this property, he should justify owning it and not be an American Citizen.

A case of dual Nationality perhaps. What would the CJ say? What would be implications on Justice Khosa?

Nice going indeed PTI, manage to start a mud slinging match when there was no need to do it in the first place.

 

[QatariPrince]

کتنی زیادتی ہے کہ کیپٹن(ر)صفدر یہاں اکیلےکھڑے ہیں،نیب پراسیکیوٹر افضل قریشی
میرےبس میں نہیں ورنہ5،6لوگ کیپٹن(ر)صفدرکےپیچھے بھی کھڑاکردیتا،نیب پراسیکیوٹر
کیپٹن(ر)صفدرکےوکیل نےاپنے موکل کو پراسیکیوشن ٹیم سےغیرضروری گفتگو سے منع کردیا
انویسٹی گیشن کا اپنا ایک طریقہ ہوتا ہےہم اس پر ابھی بات نہیں کر رہے، جج احتساب عدالت
کیپٹن(ر)صفدرنےیہ بات عدالت کےسوال پرنہیں پراسیکیوٹرکی بات کےجواب میں کہی،امجد پرویزایڈووکیٹ​

 

[Shane]

Sehbai has conveniently washed his hands of actually making any allegations, to avoid litigation perhaps, while mud slinging on Nasir Khosa all the same. Wah ray Pakistani journalists:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001260557314461697

 

[The Accountant]

Sehbai has conveniently washed his hands of actually making any allegations, to avoid litigation perhaps, while mud slinging on Nasir Khosa all the same. Wah ray Pakistani journalists:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001260557314461697

No brother we have all the right to ask these questions and being care taker PM he has to answer these questions before taking charge... If he is a dual national then he cant be care taker PM ...

We should avoid following personalities, and laws should be same irrespective of whether he belongs of NS or PTI or even for brother of Justice Khosa ...

Justice Khosa and his brother are independent individuals and as per law there is no link between these two ...

I suggest that he should disclose his nationalities and assets before joining the position ...

On the side note, owning a house in US valuing USD 750,000 dollars for a person who has worked on senior position in world bank is too easy, if he got it on 25 years lease (commonly applicable in US) then he must be paying aroung 3,600 USD per month which he can easily afford ...

 

[Shane]

No brother we have all the right to ask these questions and being care taker PM he has to answer these questions before taking charge... If he is a dual national then he cant be care taker PM ...

I was alluding to his first tweet with respect to mud slinging. I'm all for holding everyone accountable but the first tweet was more mud slinging than asking questions. The property and citizenship but must be explained by Khosa.

This whole chapter is completely unnecessary on the part of PTI and they should have avoided naming Nasir Khosa as CTCM from start. Now they have managed to start to antagonize everyone including myself unnecessarily, what to say about actual blood brother sitting in SCP.

 

[The Accountant]

I was alluding to his first tweet with respect to mud slinging. I'm all for holding everyone accountable but the first tweet was more mud slinging than asking questions. The property and citizenship but must be explained by Khosa.

This whole chapter is completely unnecessary on the part of PTI and they should have avoided naming Nasir Khosa as CTCM from start. Now they have managed to start to antagonize everyone including myself unnecessarily, what to say about actual blood brother sitting in SCP.

Actually, PTI is not that dirty till to date, therefore, they cannot predict how the opponents are going to play even an honest move ...

They need an active central executive committee and an active advisory committee. The advisory comittee should evaluate and approve the pros and cons of all the decisions of PTI and only then these decision should be announced and implemented ...

 

[Shane]

The other side on twitter:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001313851281985536

So he may not be a US citizen after all.
Who can own home in the US:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001269878349746177

 

[QatariPrince]

گلف اسٹیل سے میرا تعلق نہیں رہا، کیپٹن صفدر
آپ کو گلف اسٹیل کا معلوم ہی نہیں، جج محمد بشیر
وہ میری شادی سے پہلے کی بات ہے، کیپٹن صفدر کا جواب
جب حسین نواز جے آئی ٹی میں پیش ہوا میں اس وقت عمرے پر تھا، کیپٹن صفدر
کا 1980 معاہدہ نہ میں نے فائل کیا نہ ہی میرا کوئی تعلق ہے، کیپٹن صفدر
حدیبیہ پیپر سے میرا کوئی تعلق نہیں جس متفرق درخواست میں یہ معاملہ تھا اس میں ،میں فریق نہیں، کیپٹن صفدر
کوئین بنچ لندن کا فیصلہ میرے متعلق نہیں، ایون فیلڈ سے میرا تعلق نہیں، کیپٹن صفدر
کچھ تو تعلق ہے نا، جج محمد بشیر کا استفسار
عدالت میں بیان کیلئے ساری رات تیاری کی ہے، کیپٹن ریٹائرڈ صفدر
اسسٹنٹ کے ساتھ بیٹھ کر سی آر پی سی سے متعلق بنیادی باتوں کا مطالعہ کیا، کیپٹن ریٹائرڈ صفدر
جے آئی ٹی میں کہا کہ پانامہ 58-2 بی ہے،جس کا مقصد نوازشریف کو نکالنا ہے، کیپٹن ریٹائرڈ صفدر
جے آئی ٹی کو کہا کہ آپ کی مرضی کا جواب دے کر وعدہ معاف گواہ کبھی نہیں بنوں گا، کیپٹن ریٹائرڈ صفدر
نواز شریف کی قومی اسمبلی کی تقریر پر کیاں کہے گے ؟سوال
تقرریوں سے میرا کوئی تعلق نہیں ,کیپٹن ر صفدر
کیا آپ قومی اسمبلی میں نہیں تھے ,جج احتساب عدالت
لازمی نہیں میرے موکل اسمبلی گئے ہو ,وکیل کیپٹن ر صفدر
مجھے کسی کی تقریر کا لفظ با لفظ یاد نہیں , مشکل سے اپنی تقاریر کے مسودے ٹھیک کرلیتا ہوں , باقی تقاریر میں دلچسپی نہیں ہوتی, کیپٹن ر صفدر
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Judge Basheer bhi soch raha ho ga yea kaisi family hai

 

[PakSword]

This is some serious allegation @PakSword @Farah Sohail .

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001234383959883776

(Nisar Khosa worked under Shahbaz for two plus years from Feb 2010 as Chief Secretary and then for Nawaz for three months as Principle Secretary in 2013, he then retired and was appointed in World Bank. This property was probably purchased during his World Bank days in the US.)

US main 750,000 ka ghar qiston pe har parha likha khareed sakta hai.. 200,000 ke ghar installments pe tou Taxi drivers ne khareeday huay hain..

Lekin dual nationality wali baat main wazan hai.. If he is a dual national, he shouldn't be allowed. SC will take action for sure..

 

[Farah Sohail]

US main 750,000 ka ghar qiston pe har parha likha khareed sakta hai.. 200,000 ke ghar installments pe tou Taxi drivers ne khareeday huay hain..

Lekin dual nationality wali baat main wazan hai.. If he is a dual national, he shouldn't be allowed. SC will take action for sure..

Some ppl are saying this

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001262517228785666

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001330699067052032

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001293952295763968

So it means he might not be a US national at all.....

Shaaheen Sehbai ki yehi aadat hai.. he spreads baseless rumors like Shahid Masood

 

[PakSword]

Some ppl are saying this

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001262517228785666

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001330699067052032

https://twitter.com/x/status/1001293952295763968

People on a simple work visa (not necessarily a green card holder) pay taxes in US. To pay taxes and get some benefits, they need SSN.. An Indian colleague of mine had SSN without having a green card.. He got his card years later..

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https://www.thebalancecareers.com/how-to-get-a-social-security-number-for-non-us-citizens-2064264

What is a Social Security Number?
A social security number is a nine-digit identification number given to U.S. Citizens, permanent residents, and non-immigrant working residents.

Social Security numbers are needed to work, collect Social Security benefits and pensions, and in order to be eligible for other social services.

There are three different types of social security cards:

1. The most common type issued has the person’s name and social security number. This type is typically given to U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents.

2. The second is designated for temporary workers or those in non-immigrant status. They are valid for employment “with DHS authorization” and can be used to satisfy I-9 eligibility requirements.

3. The last type is issued for tax purposes and cannot be used with the I-9 form or toward employment.

Eligibility for a Social Security Number
Temporary workers and those in non-immigrant visa status who are authorized to work in the United States by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can get a Social Security number (SSN).

Social Security numbers are used to report wages to the government and to determine a person’s eligibility for Social Security benefits.


A Social Security number is needed to work and to collect Social Security benefits.

Only non-citizens authorized to work in the US are eligible for a Social Security number. Those on a non-employment based temporary visa (like ESTA) without work authorization are unable to apply for one.