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NESCOLL NIELSEN ki Beneficiary owner kon hai? Maryam Nawaz!
Maryam Nawaz Maryam Nawaz,
Galay par gai...
Qoom ki aik...JHOTI ki Bakvas.

maaf he kar dain acha hai sab ka waqt bachay ga in ko sazza daynay ki himt toh hai nai.
Do read about the pardon law in earlier post below, if you haven't already:
Thank you for posting an important point.

This is why I have mentioned about the importance of Trial court decisions coming during care taker government instead of Bakvas Sharif controlled PMLN Government.

Next question...
How is presidential pardon relevant with respect to care taker or the next government?

Answer....
Let's look at the law first and foremost:
The Article 45 of the 1973 Pakistani Constitution, pertaining to President's power to grant pardon etc, states: "The President shall have power to grant pardon, reprieve and respite, and to remit, suspend or commute any sentence passed by any court, tribunal or other authority."

But (and its like a big @ proverbial Butt too)
...the presidential pardon is subject to PRIME MINISTER'S ADVICE.

Also, The Presidential pardon comes after Appeal in SCP is rejected too. That part may well depend on who wins the next elections indeed. That's why it is so important for Establishment to wash the dirt of fixing elections in favour of PMLN over the years instead of staying neutral.
Need I say more? I think not!
 
Maryam Nawaz Maryam Nawaz,
Galay par gai...
Qoom ki aik...JHOTI ki Bakvas.


Do read about the pardon law in earlier post below, if you haven't already:
BUT pml n is winning the next election thats my point why waste everyones time just let this saint Mr Nawaz go free and rule us for years to come! if not him Miss Maryam.
 
Someone said i will hang them till death in a very angry voice @PakSword mr hero
Thanks to Allah.. People are realizing the difference between truth and falsehood.

Ab inhain Qatari ko lana paray ga bachnay k lye aur sath documents bhi jo hain hi nahi
True that.. hum sab Qatari ko taqreeban bhool hi gaey thay..
 
BUT pml n is winning the next election thats my point why waste everyones time just let this saint Mr Nawaz go free and rule us for years to come! if not him Miss Maryam.
Not as simple as wining the next elections...their is a twist8-)...their predicament is MakafateAmal:mod:, they are gone, come what may. In sha Allah. :agree:

Firstly, there is the matter of wining the next elections... The level of their outbursts against the state must have sealed their fate...if not and they do manage an NRO of sorts then...there is that twist I mentioned earlier.

The twist in the tale of Presidential pardon means that even if they do manage to fool the establishment...of which there is very least possibility...and subsequently manage to fool the public into electing them one More time then they are sure to receive the presidential pardon...enter the twist:

Due to the blatant attempt to ridicule the Judicial System and rule of Law by the convicted mafia, Supreme Court of Pakistan will find itself forced to exercise its right to a review the Presidential pardon, just like that of Supreme Court of India has done in our very neighbourhood.

Read the following precedent set by Bakvas Sharif's beloved India's Supreme Court:

Presidential clemency is an accepted norm in many parts of the world. In India, the President is empowered with the power to pardon under Article 72 of the Indian Constitution.

Article 72 says that the President shall have the power to grant pardons, reprieves, respites or remissions of punishment or to suspend, remit or commute the sentence of any person convicted of any offence. (it's basically the same as Presidential Pardon in constitution of Pakistan)

However, in the 2006 Epuru Sudhakar & Anr Versus government of Andhara Paradesh Case, the Indian Supreme Court had held that clemency was subject to judicial review and that it could not be dispensed as a privilege or act of grace.

The Apex Indian court had made these observations while quashing the decision of Pardon.
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So you see how they are caught and entangling themselves while doing contempt of court and antagonizing state institutions.

The only way left for them is either get further entangled and keep struggling in vain (as makafateamal, just like all those lives destroyed by them) while getting exposed more and more or run away to London and enjoy their self imposed exile with their considerable looted and amassed wealth.

Either way we are witnessing historic MakafateAmal unfold before our very eyes...very little can be done about that...so good luck to everyone trying to lend a helping hand to the besieged family facing sweet natural justice at the hands of their very system.
 
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Not as simple as wining the next elections...their is a twist8-)...their predicament is MakafateAmal:mod:, they are gone, come what may. In sha Allah. :agree:

Firstly, there is the matter of wining the next elections... The level of their outbursts against the state must have sealed their fate...if not and they do manage an NRO of sorts then...there is that twist I mentioned earlier.

The twist in the tale of Presidential pardon means that even if they do manage to fool the establishment...of which there is very least possibility...and subsequently manage to fool the public into electing them one More time then they are sure to receive the presidential pardon...enter the twist:

Due to the blatant attempt to ridicule the Judicial System and rule of Law by the convicted mafia, Supreme Court of Pakistan will find itself forced to exercise its right to a review the Presidential pardon, just like that of Supreme Court of India has done in our very neighbourhood.

Read the following precedent set by Bakvas Sharif's beloved India's Supreme Court:

Presidential clemency is an accepted norm in many parts of the world. In India, the President is empowered with the power to pardon under Article 72 of the Indian Constitution.

Article 72 says that the President shall have the power to grant pardons, reprieves, respites or remissions of punishment or to suspend, remit or commute the sentence of any person convicted of any offence. (it's basically the same as Presidential Pardon in constitution of Pakistan)

However, in the 2006 Epuru Sudhakar & Anr Versus government of Andhara Paradesh Case, the Indian Supreme Court had held that clemency was subject to judicial review and that it could not be dispensed as a privilege or act of grace.

The Apex Indian court had made these observations while quashing the decision of Pardon.
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So you see how they are caught and entangling themselves while doing contempt of court and antagonizing state institutions.

The only way left for them is either get further entangled and keep struggling in vain (as makafateamal, just like all those lives destroyed by them) while getting exposed more and more or run away to London and enjoy their self imposed exile with their considerable looted and amassed wealth.

Either way we are witnessing historic MakafateAmal unfold before our very eyes...very little can be done about that...so good luck to everyone trying to lend a helping hand to the besieged family facing sweet natural justice at the hands of their very system.
well they can always bribe the judges.
 
well they can always bribe the judges.
Probably true for lower judiciary but not the majority of this SCP or else they wouldn't be in such a mess as they are and continuously sinking in their own created quagmire the more they struggle to get free.

Political front looks brighter for them for now due to naivety of supporters and blind following but also largely due to lack of timely and continuous action or movement by PTI but still to no avail due to their dismal legal predicament.
 
Probably true for lower judiciary but not the majority of this SCP or else they wouldn't be in such a mess as they are and continuously sinking in their own created quagmire the more they struggle to get free.

Political front looks brighter for them for now due to naivety of supporters and blind following but also largely due to lack of timely and continuous action or movement by PTI but still to no avail due to their dismal legal predicament.
well if we go by our history and how cheap of a sell off we are it wont be a surprise if current SCP panel is bought by Shareefs.
 
well if we go by our history and how cheap of a sell off we are it wont be a surprise if current SCP panel is bought by Shareefs.
You are partly correct. Sell off or inherently tilted towards their Mehrbans, Just looking at the dismissal of Hudaibya reopening appeal proves that there is some ground for concern still...
 
You are partly correct. Sell off or inherently tilted towards their Mehrbans, Just looking at the dismissal of Hudaibya reopening appeal proves that there is some ground for concern still...
sir i am not optimistic sell off hain bik jaye gay sab keh sabh!
 
sir i am not optimistic sell off hain bik jaye gay sab keh sabh!
That's why I count on MakafateAmal to turn their plans and scheming very pawns and sympathizers or those trying to support these thugs against them.
 
BUT pml n is winning the next election thats my point why waste everyones time just let this saint Mr Nawaz go free and rule us for years to come! if not him Miss Maryam.
We have been discussing the political moves and scheming of the mafia and so are the political commentators disclosing some of the same i.e. some more cause to be a little optimistic:
 

Wah! Wah waah.

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