Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

[PakSword]

This unfortunate situation will remain like this until real land reforms are carried out;

 

[fatman17]

In Pakistan definition of democracy is;Govt of the corrupt,by the corrupt and for the corrupt #DGISPR

 

[Shane]

Its not even winter yet and we already have gas supply shortage in and around Islamabad. What is the reason when gas heaters are not even being used yet?

Add to it the hike in vegetable prices when local crops have already hit the market.

Note the absence of price control magistrates and teams because somebody has conveniently not even bothered to deploy them in the first place.

Mulk k halat kharab hain kyun k Nawaz Sharif ko kyun nikala.

 

[El Sidd]

Its not even winter yet and we already have gas supply shortage in and around Islamabad. What is the reason when gas heaters are not even being used yet?

Add to it the hike in vegetable prices when local crops have already hit the market.

Note the absence of price control magistrates and teams because somebody has conveniently not even bothered to deploy them in the first place.

Mulk k halat kharab hain kyun k Nawaz Sharif ko kyun nikala.

Duniya 32 33 saal kay leaders bana rahi hai...

Hum chand khandaan kay buddhay paal rahe hai.

Ghaans bhi mehngi krdo jamhooriyat chalni chaiye inki mc bc dc gc fc

 

[El_Swordsmen]

Its not even winter yet and we already have gas supply shortage in and around Islamabad. What is the reason when gas heaters are not even being used yet?

Add to it the hike in vegetable prices when local crops have already hit the market.

Note the absence of price control magistrates and teams because somebody has conveniently not even bothered to deploy them in the first place.

Mulk k halat kharab hain kyun k Nawaz Sharif ko kyun nikala.

Duniya 32 33 saal kay leaders bana rahi hai...

Hum chand khandaan kay buddhay paal rahe hai.

Ghaans bhi mehngi krdo jamhooriyat chalni chaiye inki mc bc dc gc fc

Jamhoriyat waqai behtreen "inteqaam" hai

 

[Shane]

they are Kings Party's members; they will NEVER join PTI until and unless they are sure that certain directional wind is favouring it (PTI), and when it (wind) starts; they'll be in PTI within a blink of an eye; no amount of wooing (by PTI) can work on them without the favouring wind; it's (politics) their business - and they do not make a deal of loss when they have family/personal vote bank of 100,000 - 150,000.

It is then after all politics and how you play your hand. If Nawaz can build a narrative against the odds of disqualification from thin air without a continuous counter narrative from PTI then sadly we have to admit that PTI is completely inept at playing politics if they can't even capitalize on open descent in ruling party and has to rely on their opponents own failure instead of creating, securing or expanding political space for itself and so the common observer stands flabbergasted at the equally inept legal silence of PTI. What is PTI up to if it is contend on doing an odd gathering now and then besides appearing in news shows?

There should have been legal activism in the form of review, petitions and queries.
There should have been political rallies right after the verdict in major cities, at least a half a dozen workers conventions, a lawyers movement led by PTI in support of judiciary and jalsas, aggressive support of doctors/teachers/farmers movement instead of half hearted and weak participation etc etc All activities should have been timed and organized to counter PMLN activities but in other cities or dates than pmln activities to avoid clashes with pmln.

What we have seen is an un-cohesive response from PTI to say the least and that too from Nathia Gali to begin with of all places.

There is no counter pressure or demands on the state but lame attempts from PMLN but due to the missing counter to it, we find the lame ones getting away with day light robbery.

Instead of hoping for something to happen, PTI should have made it happen or forced other stakeholders to level the playing field for all.

Why is it that when Dr. Asim or other PPP allied accused are presented in courts in Karachi, PPP Govt can't even touch them inside armoured personal carriers let alone accompany them or bring them in processions like PMLN is being allowed?

 

[PakSword]

dc gc fc

???

Expand please..

 

[El Sidd]

???

Expand please..

Parental lock laga hai tablet me

 

[PakSword]

Parental lock laga hai tablet me

Main tou aaj tak samajhta tha aap khu parental lock lagatey hogay..

 

[El Sidd]

Main tou aaj tak samajhta tha aap khu parental lock lagatey hogay..

Nahi sir

Walida majida or walid muhtaram alhumdulilah hayat hain

 

[PakSword]

Nahi sir

Walida majida or walid muhtaram alhumdulilah hayat hain

Alhamdolillah... Allah unhain lambi hayati day.. Ameen..

main tou keh raha hun ke aap iss stage pe ho ke khud hi parental lock lagatay hogay.. children aur grand children ke computeron par!

 

[El Sidd]

Alhamdolillah... Allah unhain lambi hayati day.. Ameen..

main tou keh raha hun ke aap iss stage pe ho ke khud hi parental lock lagatay hogay.. children aur grand children ke computeron par!

Nahi janaab....

Matriarchal martial law lagaya hua hai walida ne.

Ghar me democracy thodi different hai lol

 

[PakSword]

Nahi janaab....

Matriarchal martial law lagaya hua hai walida ne.

Ghar me democracy thodi different hai lol

Jabhi aap har qisam ke martial law ke khilaaf hain! abb samajh aaya..

 

[El Sidd]

Jabhi aap har qisam ke martial law ke khilaaf hain! abb samajh aaya..

Ji sir.

Ham jamhooriyat kay roz hote shaheed hain.

 

[Realistic Change]

It is then after all politics and how you play your hand. If Nawaz can build a narrative against the odds of disqualification from thin air without a continuous counter narrative from PTI then sadly we have to admit that PTI is completely inept at playing politics if they can't even capitalize on open descent in ruling party and has to rely on their opponents own failure instead of creating, securing or expanding political space for itself and so the common observer stands flabbergasted at the equally inept legal silence of PTI. What is PTI up to if it is contend on doing an odd gathering now and then besides appearing in news shows?

There should have been legal activism in the form of review, petitions and queries.
There should have been political rallies right after the verdict in major cities, at least a half a dozen workers conventions, a lawyers movement led by PTI in support of judiciary and jalsas, aggressive support of doctors/teachers/farmers movement instead of half hearted and weak participation etc etc All activities should have been timed and organized to counter PMLN activities but in other cities or dates than pmln activities to avoid clashes with pmln.

What we have seen is an un-cohesive response from PTI to say the least and that too from Nathia Gali to begin with of all places.

There is no counter pressure or demands on the state but lame attempts from PMLN but due to the missing counter to it, we find the lame ones getting away with day light robbery.

Instead of hoping for something to happen, PTI should have made it happen or forced other stakeholders to level the playing field for all.

Why is it that when Dr. Asim or other PPP allied accused are presented in courts in Karachi, PPP Govt can't even touch them inside armoured personal carriers let alone accompany them or bring them in processions like PMLN is being allowed?

These members of Kings Party as I call them will switch if and when they know/believe who is going to make the next Govt., let me repeat it again, these members will join PTI, PPP, PMLQ, PMLN,MQM, ANP, PKAMP, JUIF or even MML if they believe that next Govt., will be of that party.

PTI, PMLN, PPP and in parts MQM has discussed threadbare all legal, political and back door channels possibilities way before we discussed it here. Rest assured; it (PTI) might look childish to you due to IK’s speeches in jalsas it is not a naive party.

You tell me:

1. Was PMLN less or more vulnerable 30 days ago?

2. Appeals and movement against PMLN would have been less or more powerful as each day passes or 30 days ago?

3. Appeals in Judiciary made more sense 30 days ago or as now or in another months time.

4. Why PPP is treated differently than PMLN is known to every one and have been discussed even here millions of times- so I won’t go in that again.

5. There are six months for Accountability/NAB Court, please disassociate it with SCP; if any movement started 30 days ago; it’s target HAD to be SCP not Accountability Court, after giving it reasonable time, the obvious target would be much lower court plus new NAB Chairman.

I can go in way more detail than this; but I will not due to the fact that I would like to keep it undisclosed for PTi’s sake the strategy we have. I apologize for my inability to do so- hope you’ll understand!