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You could have made that point without bringing martial race theory jab.

(I did say that in an earlier post, but you either didn't see it or ignored it, in response to another guy that was putting his own spin on it.)
I am gonna be the bigger guy and apologise. . People have been trying to claim him through his various association with numerous airforce's and organizations, he apparently was even trained by the U.S (which didn't know). What ever he accomplished he accomplished alone . Not me, Not you can claim it, We can only claim some sort of very distant affliation to to it. They are his accomplishments alone, people have been trying to claim him for their own agendas.
Whilst overlooking that he chose to die as a Bangladeshi, being his chose.
The vast majority of the world were born into nationalities few chose their nationalities, on a knife edge. Only very occasional historical moments like this happen in modern times.

May he rest in peace.
 
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Alam was ethnically a non-bengali.



I have replied him in kind. Pretty sure he has learned his lesson.
Well Saiful was. It’s stupid to discredit his heritage. For to strip someone of his heritage is same of the likes of bastardization

https://baf.mil.bd/website/saiful-azam.php
leave a few words of condolences to his family doesn’t matter which side of the pond you identify with
 
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Thanks brother. May Allah swt give you jaza e khair.



Brother, sometimes you troll Iranians, sometimes BD, sometimes Pukhtoons.

Hale kyu? Your name is not El Sidd, you don't have to do this, it is not your job.
I am only mentioning facts.
He was a PAF pilot and a Pakistani citizen at the time.
It's not just the person who should be getting the credit but the organisation who trained him should also get the credit. That was PAF.
 
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I am only mentioning facts.
He was a PAF pilot and a Pakistani citizen at the time.
It's not just the person who should be getting the credit but the organisation who trained him should also get the credit. That was PAF.

PAF shot down 10 Israeli fighter jets. Saif ul Azam shot down 4 himself. Ma sha Allah.
 
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Palestinians mourn death of a Bangladeshi war hero
During the 1967 Six-Day War, Saiful Azam became the only fighter pilot to have downed four Israeli aircraft.

8 hours ago

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...ath-bangladeshi-war-hero-200615111937300.html

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A unique figure in the history of Bangladesh, Saiful Azam fought in wars as a fighter pilot in three different countries - Jordan, Iraq and Pakistan [File: Monirul Alam/EPA]
Palestinian activists are mourning the loss of Saiful Azam, 79, a Bangladesh fighter pilot who died of natural causes in the capital, Dhaka, on Sunday.

Azam, also a former legislator from Bangladesh's mid-northern Pabna-3 constituency, was regarded as a legendary figure for Bangladeshi people, thanks to his record as an ace fighter pilot.

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A unique figure in the history of Bangladesh, Azam fought in wars as a fighter pilot in three different countries - Jordan, Iraq, and Pakistan.

During the 1967 Six-Day War, he was the only pilot to have downed four Israeli aircraft.

Mourning him on Facebook, Palestinian historian Osama al-Ashqar hailed Azam as a great airman.

"Our brothers in Bangladesh and Pakistan were our partners in resistance and defending the Al-Aqsa Mosque," the holy site in Jerusalem, he added.

The Palestinian professor Naji Shoukri posted on his Twitter prayers mourning Azam.

"Saiful Azam loved Palestine and fought for the sake of Jerusalem," said Shoukri, saluting him and wishing him God's grace.

Renowned Palestinian journalist Tamer al-Mishal lauded Azam, calling him "the Eagle of the Air".

Downing four Israeli warplanes
On June 5, 1967, four Israeli jets were descending on Jordan's Mafraq airbase to smash the country's tiny air force, shortly after the entire Egyptian air force had been destroyed.

Jordanian air force commanders deployed Azam to thwart the attack, shooting down two aircraft. He was shifted to Iraq two days later to defend air bases, where he shot down two more Israeli planes.

In recognition of Azam's contributions, he was conferred with military awards by Jordan and Iraq. The United States also gave him the Living Eagles title in 2001 for his outstanding skills.

After the independence of Bangladesh in 1971, the veteran pilot joined the Bangladesh Air Force to serve his homeland. In 1980, he retired and joined the civil service and later took up a political career.

Describing Azam as the pride of Bangladesh, former chief of Border Guards Bangladesh, Major General Fazlur Rahman, said his name will remain a part of Bangladesh's history.

"He is a source of inspiration for every soldier in the battleground on how to defeat the big enemy with limited weapons. He set a milestone in optimum use of skills and courage during war," Rahman said.

Star of courage medal
Born in a remote area in Bangladesh’s central district of Pabna in 1941, he spent his childhood in the Indian city of Kolkata with his father. After the partition of the Indian subcontinent in 1947, his family migrated to Bangladesh (then East Pakistan).

According to the South Asia-based analytical website Roar Media, Azam left home at the age of 14 for higher secondary education in then West Pakistan (now Pakistan). In 1958 he was admitted to Pakistan Air Force Cadet College, where he completed his education as a pilot officer.

Popular defence blog Fighter Jets World also recorded that after learning the fundamentals of aviation in Pakistan, Azam was sent for advanced air combat training at Luke Air Force Base in Arizona.

During the 1965 India-Pakistan war he also downed an Indian warplane, encouraging Pakistani forces to stand against India with limited warfare tools.

The act was widely applauded in Pakistan, which awarded Azam Pakistani's Star of Courage (Sitara-e-Jurat) medal, the third-most prestigious award of its military.
Bangladesh shouldn't be claiming his part in that war because he was sent by pakistan and represented Pakistan in that war.
 
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Guys lets not fight over which country he belonged to.

It is our shame in Bangladesh that we did not accord him the honor he so richly deserved. He got more accolades from overseas countries than at home. That in short says a lot of things and what we need to do honor our own Bangladeshi heroes and talented folks. Let this be a lesson to us.

Pakistan named an airbase (formerly Mianwali) for MM Alam, I hear there are installations at Sargodha named after Saiful Azam. Where is this hero's remembrance in Bangladesh? Claiming him as an ethnic Bangladeshi is one thing, but have we really honored him, which he deserved?
 
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What ever he accomplished he accomplished alone

PAF is not one man, it is a whole ecosystem. He was part of a celebrated organization which was renowned throughout the world.

Bangladeshis can honor him as a racial Bengali who later joined BD AF, but you cannot take the honor of PAF away from him or us.
 
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(I did say that in an earlier post, but you either didn't see it or ignored it, in response to another guy that was putting his own spin on it.)
I am gonna be the bigger guy and apologise. . People have been trying to claim him through his various association with numerous airforce's and organizations, he apparently was even trained by the U.S (which didn't know). What ever he accomplished he accomplished alone . Not me, Not you can claim it, We can only claim some sort of very distant affliation to to it. They are his accomplishments alone, people have been trying to claim him for their own agendas.
Whilst overlooking that he chose to die as a Bangladeshi, being his chose.
The vast majority of the world were born into nationalities few chose their nationalities, on a knife edge. Only very occasional historical moments like this happen in modern times.

May he rest in peace.
If Bangladesh was present at the time would they have sent him or anyother pilot to that war?
 
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he was in service with the Pakistan Air Force when he achieved that unique feat, if I am not wrong.

Yes, he was. No doubt about it. Knowing what Bd has become, he would have achieve nothing.

May he rest in peace. May Allah grant him Jannat ul Firdoos.

He was born and raised in bd, so what! so eat that. I don't know of any pk born living eagles. For such superior martial race .

The point is he was trained by PAF.

He was a Bangladeshi serving in pakistan before Bangladesh existed, end of story. Can we celebrate the man or will people continue bickering over who deserves credit for his heroics.

He was a Pakistani and then became Bangladeshi. What's wrong being a Pakistani?

Its unfortunate that Pakistan broke in to two but fact remain and there is nothing wrong with it.

Guys lets not fight over which country he belonged to.

It is our shame in Bangladesh that we did not accord him the honor he so richly deserved. He got more accolades from overseas countries than at home. That in short says a lot of things and what we need to do honor our own Bangladeshi heroes and talented folks. Let this be a lesson to us.

Pakistan named an airbase (formerly Mianwali) for MM Alam, I hear there are installations at Sargodha named after Saiful Azam. Where is this hero's remembrance in Bangladesh? Claiming him as an ethnic Bangladeshi is one thing, but have we really honored him, which he deserved?

Good call out.
 
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He served for United Pakistan (present day BD + present day Pak) and then present day BD. Please stop with the silly bickering, all.
 
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Eh nope, he was in service of Jordan and Iraqi airforce so if anyone is to take credits according to how some nut jobs think... it’s only Jordanians and Palestinians who can celebrate him as their hero.
Please for gods sake don’t try to change identity of a dead man. Pray for him. That’s better than these useless debates
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No offense to anyone, just the flow of convo demanded this meme
 
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IMO a nation whom has characters touting "ummah chummah" don't have a right to claim Saif ul-Azam as theirs...they lost it the day they mocked the concept of the "ummah." Saif ul-Azam fought for a state that doesn't exist today, and fought for an ideal some among us mock. Thus, the few among us have ruined it all.
 
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